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Anyone got the latest CO figs, just wandering if they've managed to maintain higher yields since school hols, as there were reports just after the US hurricanes that US carriers would start pulling out of the routes that aren't doing great in order to save on the hike in fuel prices, hopefully BRS is starting to prove itself a useful little number for them by now.
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CAA provisional stats for August show 8777 used the route - average of around 142 per flight or roughly an 82% average load factor.
At the time the route commenced the airport and airline suggested they were looking to carry around 75,000 pax in the first year. The published figures for June, July and August indicate a total of just over 23,300 carried in those months, so although these months are amongst the busiest of the year normally, and the fact that the route goes to five a week in winter, one hopes the target will be achieved.
There seem to have been plenty of initiatives in recent months by both the airline and airport to promote the route, including fare and car parking deals.
I have both read and heard anecdotal evidence to suggest that American travellers (the ones the route initially struggled to attract apparently), once they have discovered the route, like it.
For instance, on the website of a hotel serving Bristol Airport one US pax described how his party could not get a return flight from London on the dates they wanted so motored to Bristol, stayed in the hotel "right in the midddle of the countryside", went to a recommended nearby country pub for a meal and were taken to the airport the following morning. They intend to use this route again.
CAA provisional stats for August show 8777 used the route - average of around 142 per flight or roughly an 82% average load factor.
At the time the route commenced the airport and airline suggested they were looking to carry around 75,000 pax in the first year. The published figures for June, July and August indicate a total of just over 23,300 carried in those months, so although these months are amongst the busiest of the year normally, and the fact that the route goes to five a week in winter, one hopes the target will be achieved.
There seem to have been plenty of initiatives in recent months by both the airline and airport to promote the route, including fare and car parking deals.
I have both read and heard anecdotal evidence to suggest that American travellers (the ones the route initially struggled to attract apparently), once they have discovered the route, like it.
For instance, on the website of a hotel serving Bristol Airport one US pax described how his party could not get a return flight from London on the dates they wanted so motored to Bristol, stayed in the hotel "right in the midddle of the countryside", went to a recommended nearby country pub for a meal and were taken to the airport the following morning. They intend to use this route again.
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September was good month for CO. Higher load factor than alot of their other EU routes.
Also 757 fleet being reconfigures to add 3 Y class seats and brand new AVOD IFE in Business First. First aircraft has been completed with rest of fleet to be completed by end 2006.
Also 757 fleet being reconfigures to add 3 Y class seats and brand new AVOD IFE in Business First. First aircraft has been completed with rest of fleet to be completed by end 2006.
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How about the following,
New Based Air Malta A320 operating ACE, HRG,SSH,SZG,PFO and
CMF
New Based Excel B737-400 operating TFS x 2 , LPA, MIR , LYS , FUE
More ski including Austrian Dash 8 400's to Bolzano and B738 to INN.
AEU B737-700 to TCP and BJL ( 2 ) and CMF ski.
Thomas Cook A320 based now Weds - Sat with extra LCA , and LPA series in addition to previous ACE and TFS.
EAF operating B737-200 with ski flights to LYS and GRO.
BH Air A320 to Plovdiv as last year.
Flights in addition to based FCA and TUI a/c.
EZY replacing 8 based B737-700's with A319's from end of the month.
New scheduled flights to MME , HAM , SNN and GNB and first winter with flights to some place called New York!
Not bad - ATM and pax growth should be around 20%+
New Based Air Malta A320 operating ACE, HRG,SSH,SZG,PFO and
CMF
New Based Excel B737-400 operating TFS x 2 , LPA, MIR , LYS , FUE
More ski including Austrian Dash 8 400's to Bolzano and B738 to INN.
AEU B737-700 to TCP and BJL ( 2 ) and CMF ski.
Thomas Cook A320 based now Weds - Sat with extra LCA , and LPA series in addition to previous ACE and TFS.
EAF operating B737-200 with ski flights to LYS and GRO.
BH Air A320 to Plovdiv as last year.
Flights in addition to based FCA and TUI a/c.
EZY replacing 8 based B737-700's with A319's from end of the month.
New scheduled flights to MME , HAM , SNN and GNB and first winter with flights to some place called New York!
Not bad - ATM and pax growth should be around 20%+
Considering that the runway at BRS has yet to have caused a problem to a continental service and that South Wales has such a poor catchment area I would be suprised by any move to the other side of the bridge.
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FCA have 3 new ski routes for this winter to GNB/SOF/TRN, they're still doing TLS but have dropped their GVA,
What a load of rubbish CO talking to CWL, someone have a word for godsake!
What a load of rubbish CO talking to CWL, someone have a word for godsake!
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As much as I would love to see a New York service from CWL, CO are not going to move from BRS! What a load of rubbish! CO from BRS is very successful with very good pax loads runway hasn't caused a problem so far so why should it in the future? Being Welsh, I would love to see Cardiff in the same league as the big guys but its just not gonna happen anytime soon!
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New York is very far down on the list of priorities. A daily flight would be impossible and would never have a chance of working. Two or three a week at a max but that is now a long, long time away.
Getting the infrastructure right at Cork is much more important, ie, completing the terminal, more ramp, (not for a long time) more runway, (never), ILS CAT 2 and 3 (never will have cat 3).
Cork Airport is banjaxed.
Perhaps, the Cork Airport board could buy cheap tickets off FR to fly snn-BRS and get lessons on how to do things better. At least snn and BRS would be winners with the few extra pax!
Getting the infrastructure right at Cork is much more important, ie, completing the terminal, more ramp, (not for a long time) more runway, (never), ILS CAT 2 and 3 (never will have cat 3).
Cork Airport is banjaxed.
Perhaps, the Cork Airport board could buy cheap tickets off FR to fly snn-BRS and get lessons on how to do things better. At least snn and BRS would be winners with the few extra pax!
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It seems the disparate groups that, for various reasons, want to stop any expansion at BRS have now formed themselves into a Stop Bristol Airport Expansion (SBAE) coalition.
They include environmental organisations such as Bristol Friends of the Earth, the Campaign for the Protection of Rural England and the local Parish Councils’ Airport Association.
The usual mixture in any campaign group’s armoury of selected facts presented in a slanted way, embellished with half truths and outright lies, has been put forward as part of SBAE’s opening shots and its members have enjoyed much local media publicity in the past couple of days.
It will be interesting to see how these unlikely bedfellows conduct themselves over the coming months. Some want air travel reduced everywhere whilst others merely want it curtailed at BRS, apparently quite content for some other airport’s neighbours to be the recipients of the sort of thing they don’t want themselves: the classic Nimby.
One of the mutual concerns appears to be the increase in road traffic that airport expansion would bring. However, this does not appear to worry these people when it comes to the many thousands who have moved out to the pleasant, yet ever expanding, Nimbyland in recent decades who then, by commuting daily to and from Bristol from their rural retreats, cause the kind of pollution they object to in aircraft and airport users’ cars.
The impetus that has provoked the coming together of those opposing further development at BRS is the publication of the airport’s draft master plan, due next Wednesday. I am sure that many of the ordinary folk in the wider Bristol and district will be waiting with baited breath to see if a mini Heathrow really is about to appear on top of that misty hill adjacent Goblin Combe, because they would be forgiven for believing that from some of the statements of the SBAE people.
Whilst I would never advocate that airports be allowed unrestricted and uncontrolled growth, it is a great pity that so many opponents fight from entrenched and unrealistic positions.
They include environmental organisations such as Bristol Friends of the Earth, the Campaign for the Protection of Rural England and the local Parish Councils’ Airport Association.
The usual mixture in any campaign group’s armoury of selected facts presented in a slanted way, embellished with half truths and outright lies, has been put forward as part of SBAE’s opening shots and its members have enjoyed much local media publicity in the past couple of days.
It will be interesting to see how these unlikely bedfellows conduct themselves over the coming months. Some want air travel reduced everywhere whilst others merely want it curtailed at BRS, apparently quite content for some other airport’s neighbours to be the recipients of the sort of thing they don’t want themselves: the classic Nimby.
One of the mutual concerns appears to be the increase in road traffic that airport expansion would bring. However, this does not appear to worry these people when it comes to the many thousands who have moved out to the pleasant, yet ever expanding, Nimbyland in recent decades who then, by commuting daily to and from Bristol from their rural retreats, cause the kind of pollution they object to in aircraft and airport users’ cars.
The impetus that has provoked the coming together of those opposing further development at BRS is the publication of the airport’s draft master plan, due next Wednesday. I am sure that many of the ordinary folk in the wider Bristol and district will be waiting with baited breath to see if a mini Heathrow really is about to appear on top of that misty hill adjacent Goblin Combe, because they would be forgiven for believing that from some of the statements of the SBAE people.
Whilst I would never advocate that airports be allowed unrestricted and uncontrolled growth, it is a great pity that so many opponents fight from entrenched and unrealistic positions.
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NIMBYs, one of the many pointless creations on this planet. As I said in my email to ITV West news (which was read out) if an airport wants to expand, then it will and there is NOTHING the NIMBYs can do about it.
They need to give up and find themselves a hobby, at the end of the day if they want to go abroad, they dont walk do they?
Dan.
They need to give up and find themselves a hobby, at the end of the day if they want to go abroad, they dont walk do they?
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Funny they dont want the airport to expand, yet they like the fact the airport is on their doorstep. And like the fact they dont have to travel far to a airport when their going on holiday. But they do moan over noise and increased traffic. hello no one forced these ppl to live near an airport and ppl must of knew in time it would expand to take the pressure of bigger london airports and spread the traffic across regional airports to improve and help local business & create more jobs which is good for the southwest, etc