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Very interesting how these rumours of FR looking at increasing their presence at Manchester have started.
First we get Shannon. at an off-peak timing. Now there are rumours of three other destinations (or should I say points of origin, as I am assuming that they are not looking at basing aircraft in Manchester).
Has something happened to suddenly make Manchester attractive to FR? In the past they have always intimated (or vocally cried) that the costs at Manchester were far to high - and how greedy the airport authority was.
Scottie Dog
First we get Shannon. at an off-peak timing. Now there are rumours of three other destinations (or should I say points of origin, as I am assuming that they are not looking at basing aircraft in Manchester).
Has something happened to suddenly make Manchester attractive to FR? In the past they have always intimated (or vocally cried) that the costs at Manchester were far to high - and how greedy the airport authority was.
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EMA is a Manchester Airport Group concern, as is Bournemouth which are FR favouries......obviously deals must be being done behind the scenes, and perhaps FR have just realised that there could be a market to tap in to down the M62 at MAN!
Hope it comes off! I;d personally like to see Italy better served from MAN...these seasonal PSA/VCE LS routs are no use to any businessman in the NW. Same for VLC and BUD
Come o FR, kick some ass at MAN!!.
Hope it comes off! I;d personally like to see Italy better served from MAN...these seasonal PSA/VCE LS routs are no use to any businessman in the NW. Same for VLC and BUD
Come o FR, kick some ass at MAN!!.
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EMA is a Manchester Airport Group concern, as is Bournemouth which are FR favouries......obviously deals must be being done behind the scenes,
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what is going on dudes
yo dudes
i don't think the powers that be know what to do, what do you dude think ?
building a 3rd runway, what the point in that when they the 2nd runway is closed half the day.
and a 4th terminal, where the logic in that, they got no where to put it. it either on the other side of runway 2, or moving the cargo centre and hangers, and then where is the 3rd runway is gonna go ???
i don't think the powers that be know what to do, what do you dude think ?
building a 3rd runway, what the point in that when they the 2nd runway is closed half the day.
and a 4th terminal, where the logic in that, they got no where to put it. it either on the other side of runway 2, or moving the cargo centre and hangers, and then where is the 3rd runway is gonna go ???
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The extra 3 hours a day will be filled for the second runway when an extra watch of controllers are trained up, which I am led to believe takes about 18 months and the airport has sorted the last bit of the deal it negotiated with the anti noise/Mobberley residents ( which I need someone else to confirm the nitty/griity) is concluded.
From 21.00 to 06.00 is night time so therefore a quite time of the day hence no runway extra runway needed and keeps the costs down ( no extra controllers, fire cover etc etc
Watchout for the masterplan which will give you all the details you need re extensions terminals and the future plans of the airport
Out of interest DUDE what do you command ( reading your profile), not a very good command of English that`s for sure
The extra 3 hours a day will be filled for the second runway when an extra watch of controllers are trained up, which I am led to believe takes about 18 months and the airport has sorted the last bit of the deal it negotiated with the anti noise/Mobberley residents ( which I need someone else to confirm the nitty/griity) is concluded.
From 21.00 to 06.00 is night time so therefore a quite time of the day hence no runway extra runway needed and keeps the costs down ( no extra controllers, fire cover etc etc
Watchout for the masterplan which will give you all the details you need re extensions terminals and the future plans of the airport
Out of interest DUDE what do you command ( reading your profile), not a very good command of English that`s for sure
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Scottie Dog: FR will grow because the Sales Director, Tim McDermott, plans to slash the off peak charges from next April.
He's also increasing the peak charges a bit but the overall charges total will go down. It's a classic strategy to increase demand by reducing costs. A good idea given that most of the airport is under-utilised at off peak times, so it's money for old rope as most of the airport's cost is in the fixed assets (concrete, bricks and mortar) anyway so might as well be earning a few pence rather than sit idle, costing the same, and earning nothing.
Watch out for Tim. I tip him as the next MD of MA or CX of the MA Group. Can't do a worse job than the current bumbler anyway.
The masterplan will not reveal a 3rd runway or 4th terminal IMHO. I predict it will reveal massive expansion of the three existing terminals, more apron to east and west, and assume much better use of the off peak hours.
He's also increasing the peak charges a bit but the overall charges total will go down. It's a classic strategy to increase demand by reducing costs. A good idea given that most of the airport is under-utilised at off peak times, so it's money for old rope as most of the airport's cost is in the fixed assets (concrete, bricks and mortar) anyway so might as well be earning a few pence rather than sit idle, costing the same, and earning nothing.
Watch out for Tim. I tip him as the next MD of MA or CX of the MA Group. Can't do a worse job than the current bumbler anyway.
The masterplan will not reveal a 3rd runway or 4th terminal IMHO. I predict it will reveal massive expansion of the three existing terminals, more apron to east and west, and assume much better use of the off peak hours.
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I hear that we should look out for a little bit more FR expansion from MAnchester....Charleroi and Girona have been mentioned.....!
Easy 2004 all over again. I will say this again like I did Last year IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN
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Last year we were discussing the possible establishment by easyJet of a relatively large base at Manchester since they had applied for a large number of slots. This was not based on rumours, but was in fact true - only easyJet did not get the slots that they had wanted.
In this case, I understand the Ryanair situation to be - if it is true - more of a case of using overseas based aircraft to operate into Manchester on a relatively small scale. MOL has always been eager (nay if not even gready, some would say)to accept a bargain and if, as has been intimated by Momentary Lapse, the airport has decided to revise its charging policy and make certain off-peak times very attractive, then I see no reason why FR would not dip their toes in the water.
It would appear that there may be other interesting route developments by other airlines however, after the debacle of last year, I will keep the confidentiality of reports I have seen as such.
Last year we were discussing the possible establishment by easyJet of a relatively large base at Manchester since they had applied for a large number of slots. This was not based on rumours, but was in fact true - only easyJet did not get the slots that they had wanted.
In this case, I understand the Ryanair situation to be - if it is true - more of a case of using overseas based aircraft to operate into Manchester on a relatively small scale. MOL has always been eager (nay if not even gready, some would say)to accept a bargain and if, as has been intimated by Momentary Lapse, the airport has decided to revise its charging policy and make certain off-peak times very attractive, then I see no reason why FR would not dip their toes in the water.
It would appear that there may be other interesting route developments by other airlines however, after the debacle of last year, I will keep the confidentiality of reports I have seen as such.
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EGCC4284,
I see where you are coming from but I think that with a bit of planning they will get away with this. BA will still recieved the vast majority of the fuel they need for Long Haul US flights, with the remainder of the percentage being ferried in on Inbound US flights.
AA and UA will simply use the BOS/JFK/ORD etc etc flights to ferry in fuel to top up the LAX/SFO etc etc flights.
All the Far East carriers will stop en-route in Europe/Middle East......so I personally think any diverts will be kept to an absolute minimum, there again if we could get a couple of RVR days with some holding.........
Time will tell.
I see where you are coming from but I think that with a bit of planning they will get away with this. BA will still recieved the vast majority of the fuel they need for Long Haul US flights, with the remainder of the percentage being ferried in on Inbound US flights.
AA and UA will simply use the BOS/JFK/ORD etc etc flights to ferry in fuel to top up the LAX/SFO etc etc flights.
All the Far East carriers will stop en-route in Europe/Middle East......so I personally think any diverts will be kept to an absolute minimum, there again if we could get a couple of RVR days with some holding.........
Time will tell.
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My sources say the website is probably not showing a true schedule - also seems strabge that they would not be offering a day return facility!
As always it is very early days for the summer schedule - are BA still holding slots for aircraft that are no longer based at Manchester? If so, who will get what when the deadline for returning slots comes.
Whilst I have the opportunity, a Happy Christmas to all.
Scottie Dog
As always it is very early days for the summer schedule - are BA still holding slots for aircraft that are no longer based at Manchester? If so, who will get what when the deadline for returning slots comes.
Whilst I have the opportunity, a Happy Christmas to all.
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I understand the latest date for returns is 31st January.
After that we will probably get finalisation of a lot of outstanding schedules - such as the Jet2 Gatwick/Amsterdam/Edinburgh routes etc.
After that we will probably get finalisation of a lot of outstanding schedules - such as the Jet2 Gatwick/Amsterdam/Edinburgh routes etc.
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Thanks Scottie Dog
I think next summer could be very interesting, certainly very different from this year and hopefully with BA not using all their slots carriers like Alitalia might get better slots rather than 09.30 which just a tad late by the the odd hour or 2
G-I-B
I think next summer could be very interesting, certainly very different from this year and hopefully with BA not using all their slots carriers like Alitalia might get better slots rather than 09.30 which just a tad late by the the odd hour or 2
G-I-B