MANCHESTER

[VHF FLYER]

they're not widebody stands though

[Scottie Dog]

Caslane

I think the point they were making is that you would not get all the wide-bodies onto T3 at the same time. The is no disagreement that T3 has more than 5 stands, but how many of the International stands - those on the BAMA apron - can take a 767 or larger?

Scottie Dog

ps - sorry VHF Flyer just seen your previous response.

[Vuelo]

'Emirates Mulls Third Daily Dubai Service' was the headline in tonights Manchester Evening News.... am sure that probably means they are going to start one!

[VHF FLYER]

with no other qualification than what I've seen from the BA lounge at T3 I would guess there are 3 widebody stands on the BAMA side since there is often a BA and 2x AA 767s parked there at the same time. On the 'old domestic' side of T3 there are probably 2 wb stands so five altogether - so really it wouldn't work if BMI joined them fully (don't forget their domestic flights already use T3) .
I do feel sorry for MAPLC since they designed and funded this for BA on the basis of them operating 737 or equiv aircraft as they did at the time. Since BA have effectively 'lost it' at MAN they are literally a waste of space. A lot of top class infrastructure is cluttered up with Embraer jets and airbridges cannot be used and go to waste, and not to mention the waste of precious take off slots that BA take with half empty 50 seaters.
BA's business model is not and has never been suited to the Manchester market if you ask me - now evidenced by declining BA passenger numbers against a backdrop of increasing passenger numbers overall.

[Caslance]

B757 can use almost all of the T3 stands, with the exception of those across the front of the T1 building, but they're not wide-bodied aircraft as such.

I've seen B767s of both BA and, on occasion, AA parked on stands 42-44, while stands 52-54 are regularly used for B767 and have been used for A300, A330, B747 and B777.

I'm also fairly sure that stand 49 could be pressed into service for a wide-bodied type so long as the stands to either side were empty.

That gives 6 or 7 stands that can be used for wide-bodied aircraft, with several other stands suitable for B757.

Like I said, many more than 5.

[Railgun]

You have never seen AA parked on 42-43 as these are domestic only stands,they can take a 767 but no more, 44 is a 777/747 stand, 47 is a 757 stand at most as is 48, 49 can take no more than a 767, 50 is a RJ only one (fixed bridge), no bridge on 51 (if i remember right), 52 is a fixed position bridge (if i remember right) 53 is 757/767 as is 54 and 55 is a 77/747 capable stand.

BMi are hardly in MAN for the long term are they, once they get a few LHR slots they will cut and run. MAPLC are working on a false economy if they believe they will not.

[Caslance]

I have seen an AA B767 parked on 43.

There was a BA B757 on 44 at the same time.

I was there whereas you, Sir, clearly were not.

[Railgun]

Well 42 and 43 have no access to imigration so quite why they were parked there is anyone guess. Must have coached the pax round to the other side. 44/7/8 are the only stands that can be used for domestic and international arrivals and departures.

[Vuelo]

Lets not forget that T3 along with T2 is the only terminal that can be extended beyond gate 55. Arent Alpha moving from their site and the buildings due for demolition? You could easily fit three or four mre widebody stand on the end wihtout reaching the pub.

I understand MA are drawing up plans for extending the arrivals hall and baggage reclaim area at T3...anyone know anything?

[GOLF-INDIA BRAVO]

The plan I had heard was that the end of T3 was to wrap around giving aprking on both sides of the pier

G-I-B

[Caslance]

44/7/8 are the only stands that can be used for domestic and international arrivals and departures.

AA and Finnair use stands 51-53 on a daily basis.

Are these two airlines running domestic services?

Emirates almost always used 54 when they still ran from T3, too. So far as I am aware Dubai is not part of the UK.

[chiglet]

GerbilAir are using 48/49...but that's a "Franchise"
watp,iktch

[MancRy]

We (GB) have been using stand 54 in recent days aswell. We have two aircraft now and with similar flight times, need two stands.

[Railgun]

AA and Finnair use stands 51-53 on a daily basis. Are these two airlines running domestic services? Emirates almost always used 54 when they still ran from T3, too. So far as I am aware Dubai is not part of the UK.

If you took time to read my post then you would notice that i stated 44,47,48 are the only stands that can be used for domestic and international arrivals and departures. IE a international flight arrival on 44 then depart from 44 as a domestic one due to the terminal layout.

Also at last check 49-55 were all european and international stands only unless busing to the other side.

Finnair use 48 most days and american almost daily only use 53/54 only changing if there is a problem with a bridge or a aircraft still onstand. They never use 51 at any time as it has no air bridge.

[ManchesterMan]

Oh look theres a funny shaped tree over there ...can you see
it - the one with the two huge branches that appear to be
making a kind of 'V' shape......can you see it......hey you.....
dont turn your back on me I'm talking to you!!..........

[GrahamK]

Seen the Emirates 777-300ER using 30/31 the other day...
BMI will end up sending the 330s down to LHR so it doesnt matter

[cbt_bear_MAN]

All that needs to be done is re-time the BD services, which wouldnt be a masive problem, that way, they could all fit at T3.

The AY service could go remote, as could the SN service, this freeing up stand 48 and 50. The AA 757 could fit on to 48, thus allowing a BD 330 on to 54 or 55. The other BD 330 could then be re-timed to arrive on to gate 49 as the BA JFK leaves. Simple!!

People really ought to get over this snobbery of remote parking. Manchester Airport has buses and steps...USE THEM FOR ANYTHING SMALLER THAN A 757!!

[spharrison]

up up away for Domestic

So next year Domestic are showing big increase.

Aer Arann Isle of Man Three time Daily

Air Berlin Stansted Twice Daily

Flybe Belfast Four time Daily

Exeter Twice Daily

And Southampton extra Daily Flight

And on the card may be

Jersey and Norwich

Long shot

Biringham and Newcastle

So can any one see international matching the Domestic . It will not be easy.

[GOLF-INDIA BRAVO]

I take it you mean Manchester

If Flybe take on Norwich Subject to timings of course I think you can kiss goodbye to Eastern and also of course the Stansted route as well with Air Berlin

G-I-B

[spharrison]

Sorry sorry it was going to be on MANCHESTER my mistake