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Old 26th Nov 2005, 11:31
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That is a very good point Jet, having just done a ssh from LGW on a GB A320, it is fair to say that we did'nt have masses of fuel left.
All they could do is position one of the new A321's up from Lgw a couple of times a week, but then I doubt the local crew have been trained on that!
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Old 26th Nov 2005, 12:11
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Yeah we are trained on the A321's, we all just need a familiariation flight and we'd be ready.
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Old 28th Nov 2005, 11:51
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Has anyone got any idea whether Aeroflot are likely to start servics to Russia any time soon from MAN?
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Old 28th Nov 2005, 12:51
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Yes please anyone.
I would be close to the front of the queue for this - someone should do this - plenty of premium traffic too at a guess.
Aeroflot Int are ok now.
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Old 28th Nov 2005, 16:32
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A Moscow flight would be really good for the airport. But i think if this was to happen, SU or whoever did the route would probably limit it to several flights a week rather than daily which reduces flexibility for the passengers. I could also see there being a demand up front but it also needs to fill those seats down the back (not everyone realises that) and there probably needs to be some marketing of Russia, and Moscow particularly, towards the city break tourist. It's not beyond the realms of possibility either...look at Prague now and the same is gradually happening in Warsaw, Tallin and Budapest!
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Old 28th Nov 2005, 21:38
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MancRy

Yes I fear that might be the case. There are plenty of interesting destinations (Riga, Sofia, etc) from MAN that I might use but that, sadly only fly two or three times a week. The chances of those days co-inciding with my trip are remote - maybe one of the sectors but who wants to buy 2 one way tickets?
Therefore you go via somewhere.

Such longer European routes are really only viable as a business route if there are around four to five flights a week and ditto Moscow.

You mention Prague and that illustrates the point since CSA fly upto 3x daily and that's a great, viable business schedule. They'll get virtually all the MAN-PRG business traffic (including mine!)

A braver BA would fly a A319 MAN to Moscow perhaps on a 'W' routing after a Shuttle flight but why would they, they'd much prefer to fly you to LHR for their convenience rather than yours.

One day one day...
Keep dreaming

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Old 28th Nov 2005, 22:18
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VHF, your right. CSA do really well on the MAN flights and they aren't really connecting many in PRG...which many would argue is the case. As for Riga etc the route expansion is related to recent or prospective EU membership and thus being more appealing choices for the tourist. Russia on the other hand, you need a visa for example. The CX service is likely to be the only link to Moscow for the time being and only if that service is launched.
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Old 28th Nov 2005, 22:31
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MancRy

Well if CX got MAN-SVO traffic rights - happy days but would the Russians allow that? - I somehow doubt it, unless you know otherwise.

Also I note that you make the very valid point about filling the back end of the a/c too. That's where it gets tough.
Moscow is hardly a short break destination - ultra expensive and unwelcoming to the visitor. Frankly not a great deal to see either once you've done Red Square and the Kremlin.

St. Petersburg though is radically different - a real touristic gem waiting to be discovered. Less C Class traffic though - can't seem to win.
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Old 29th Nov 2005, 00:12
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Yes see what you mean. No don't know anything about the russians giving traffic rights. Be interesting to see though. Btw, were Tranaero supposed to be doin SVO or have i dreamt that?
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Old 29th Nov 2005, 00:15
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Yes they were but I believe Aeroflot put a large spanner in the works
I heard that the Cathey would be a Code share but that was quite a while ago

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Old 29th Nov 2005, 00:31
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We'll have to wait and see i guess.
See MAN was closed for a time this afternoon.
One of our flights got diverted to LPL.
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Old 29th Nov 2005, 15:11
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I agree with ManCry that CSA seem to be doing well out of Manchester, however I disagree with his comment that there isnt a lot of connecting passengers, I disagree I have flown this route a few times and there has been plenty of people connecting to other points east.
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Old 29th Nov 2005, 17:38
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Its something that you cannot quantify just by flying the route several times. Sure there are people that do transfer, predominantly easwards like you say, but CSA dont do that much in the way of long haul and so the transfer traffic is quite limited.
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Old 29th Nov 2005, 21:45
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flybe

see flybe final summer time table are out and no big news about man at all. May be next winter ?
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Old 29th Nov 2005, 22:35
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Nothing was actually promised for Summer other than BHD and EXT.

Don't expect too much..
FlyBe are developing a track record of broken promises.
By the way anyone notice how they always announce a 'new base' when in fact they only fly to a place?
A base in my book is a place where a/c and crew are based. Therefore to announce a new MAN base was a bit of a try on.
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Old 30th Nov 2005, 07:21
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Atlas Blue

I have heard that Atlas Blue are looking to start services between Manchester and Marrakesh from spring 2005.
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Old 30th Nov 2005, 09:14
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They are a bit late then Vuelo, I guess you mean 2006 and would be nice to see a North African operator

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Old 1st Dec 2005, 12:12
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Thanks to Buster the Bear



Ryanair Holdings PLC said it will start four new routes from
its Shannon airport base on Feb 2006, to Manchester, Wroclaw in Poland, Rome and Murcia in Spain, each operating three times a week.

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Old 1st Dec 2005, 17:12
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Looks like BA/Loganair have dropped Londonderry yet again as of mid January.
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Old 1st Dec 2005, 18:59
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Oh just wonderful, my mate booked himself to fly from Londonderry to MAN in March two days ago. Nice to see travel agents are as clued up as the rest of us! Anyone know if LDY - MAN is dropped completely and what to do about refunds, what a pain!
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