Southend Update
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Southend Update
MD 's Xmas address; staff were told that the terminal (new) and rail station has been approved and construction will commence next week ? FlyBe have made an initial commitment to base several a/c there from 2006 on completion of the terminal. Expected expansion also of ATC present hangarage and new parking stands for stored a/c.
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FlyBe have made an initial commitment to base several a/c there from 2006 on completion of the terminal.
FlyBe operating out of Southend will just make matters even worse!
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Flybe's minimum turn around times are 25mins, and for a 78 seater, it is'nt too difficult to achieve.
Would suspect routes will be operated by Q400 based a/c to Belfasy City, Dublin, Jersey, Edinburgh, Liverpool, Glasgow and Newcastle.
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Would suspect routes will be operated by Q400 based a/c to Belfasy City, Dublin, Jersey, Edinburgh, Liverpool, Glasgow and Newcastle.
Regards
Mike
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There are only a few items of 'junk' 2 F27 parked on the far side of the airfield, as well as a 707 awaiting the torch. The B 1-11 which is complete maintained for the sky programme featuring 'Freshair' and the Belfast, which is worked on periodically but no one is sure what the end result is to be. It would not be SEN without the parked aircraft.
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I also beleive there is, or was during the summer, some old Aer Lingus BAe 146s, old BA ATPS, and a couple of old Spanair (i think) MD-80s, of which one i know has since been sold and moved.
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Flybe's minimum turn around times are 25mins, and for a 78 seater, it is'nt too difficult to achieve.
It's not just the M25 that's crawling at peak times!!!
So where is the massive catchment area which is going to sustain these flights??
Much as Southend has a fine history, this was in the days of car ferries and not much else. Now there is Stansted with an unrestricted runway, good motorway links and rail links allowing a good catchment area to north, east, south and west.
I've been wrong before, but I cannot see how flybe can get sufficient business to keep the flights profitable.
Much as Southend has a fine history, this was in the days of car ferries and not much else. Now there is Stansted with an unrestricted runway, good motorway links and rail links allowing a good catchment area to north, east, south and west.
I've been wrong before, but I cannot see how flybe can get sufficient business to keep the flights profitable.
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I agree 'surely not.'
Southend isn't the easiest place to get to compared to Luton and Stansted, which already offer the destinations FLybe want to offer, usually at a much cheaper price tha FlyBe who I always think are quite expensive compared to Ryanair and EasyJet.
Southend doesn't have a big enough catchment area considering half of the area around it is water!
Southend isn't the easiest place to get to compared to Luton and Stansted, which already offer the destinations FLybe want to offer, usually at a much cheaper price tha FlyBe who I always think are quite expensive compared to Ryanair and EasyJet.
Southend doesn't have a big enough catchment area considering half of the area around it is water!
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...but what about offering itself as the low-cost London city airport? Isn't it closer to London than Heathrow?
London city is so damned expensive, i'm sure there is a case to be made for Southend. Although I hear you regarding comments about Stansteds proximity.
There are SOOOO many airports in the UK!!! Seems like one for each village!
London city is so damned expensive, i'm sure there is a case to be made for Southend. Although I hear you regarding comments about Stansteds proximity.
There are SOOOO many airports in the UK!!! Seems like one for each village!
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surely not....
Part of the plans for the new terminal include a rail station (the main line to London runs alongside the airport).
Also I think some of you you miss the point about Flybe's business model. It is to offer a limited range of flights from local airports (eg SOU, NWI, EXT) to select destinations using lower capacity aircraft.
Southend has had too many false dawns in the past but there is a decent catchment within an hour's drive and Essex is stuffed full of timeshare/villa owners so a couple of routes to Spain, also Dublin maybe, could prove a winner.
Part of the plans for the new terminal include a rail station (the main line to London runs alongside the airport).
Also I think some of you you miss the point about Flybe's business model. It is to offer a limited range of flights from local airports (eg SOU, NWI, EXT) to select destinations using lower capacity aircraft.
Southend has had too many false dawns in the past but there is a decent catchment within an hour's drive and Essex is stuffed full of timeshare/villa owners so a couple of routes to Spain, also Dublin maybe, could prove a winner.
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The same was said of STN when I was a policeman there in the 70's,ditto the second terminal at LGW. Once the terminal is open I am sure others will come there, already there is a steady flow of exec jets selecting SEN over City. The only down side I can see is the runway limitations excluding the likes of fully laden 73' and Airbuses, however, even the aircraft performnaces will change.
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Nakata,
SSSSSSSSHHHHH! Don't tell the Labour Government, or they'll want to close a few more and build starter homes for the chavs of this parish...
There are SOOOO many airports in the UK!!! Seems like one for each village!
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I don't doubt for a minute that adequate research into Southend's catchment area hasn't taken place.
Flybe has the advantage over the likes of EZY and Ryanair in that the Q400 can operate quite happily in and out of there, whereas a fully loaded 737...... forget it!
Best of luck to Southend. I hope they succeed.
Foxy
PS what are the chances of them getting their CTZ back???
Flybe has the advantage over the likes of EZY and Ryanair in that the Q400 can operate quite happily in and out of there, whereas a fully loaded 737...... forget it!
Best of luck to Southend. I hope they succeed.
Foxy
PS what are the chances of them getting their CTZ back???
