Liverpool -- READ the stickies!!!!!!!
What does need improving urgently at LPL is the airside transit of passengers to and from the gates to the aircraft.
So often we sit with our pax on board because another aircraft is boarding and you cannot unload at the same time.
Even on the new stands, 3, only one aircraft can board at a time, so turnrounds get delayed.
I would guess that with the extra flights from Ryanair and Flybe, some aircraft will have to use the remote stands opposite the terminal all day instead of just night stopping - no wonder new busses have arrived!!!
The terminal desperately needs improving airside.
So often we sit with our pax on board because another aircraft is boarding and you cannot unload at the same time.
Even on the new stands, 3, only one aircraft can board at a time, so turnrounds get delayed.
I would guess that with the extra flights from Ryanair and Flybe, some aircraft will have to use the remote stands opposite the terminal all day instead of just night stopping - no wonder new busses have arrived!!!
The terminal desperately needs improving airside.
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Totally agree that's my experience when returning to Liverpool, WHEN there has been a delay in disembarking, waiting for the escort staff, baggage, and steps, doesn't seem to be a problem.
I cocked that up!
It should read escort staff are sometimes a problem, baggage and steps ain\'t.
I cocked that up!
It should read escort staff are sometimes a problem, baggage and steps ain\'t.
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not realy down to the handling agents for all the problems, some of the people who allocate stands should also take the blame, (not all of them only a couple) parking an international flight infront of the domestic arrivals (STAND 1) and domestic flights on any of the other stands doesn't help the handling agents, because the passenges have to cross in the middle of the apron to get to their designated arrivals hall. this means that there will be a delay in offloading pax. The back stands on the new Tango apron don't get used enough either.
and as for not having enough escort staff on the apron is true, but unfortuately you can't have 2 staff for each arriving aircraft, because if this happens the handling agent has to charge the airline more money.
The airlines suffer because the go for the cheapest option of agents, not always the best move, just ask EZY.
not realy down to the handling agents for all the problems, some of the people who allocate stands should also take the blame, (not all of them only a couple) parking an international flight infront of the domestic arrivals (STAND 1) and domestic flights on any of the other stands doesn't help the handling agents, because the passenges have to cross in the middle of the apron to get to their designated arrivals hall. this means that there will be a delay in offloading pax. The back stands on the new Tango apron don't get used enough either.
and as for not having enough escort staff on the apron is true, but unfortuately you can't have 2 staff for each arriving aircraft, because if this happens the handling agent has to charge the airline more money.
The airlines suffer because the go for the cheapest option of agents, not always the best move, just ask EZY.
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Thats something I have heard also. 
Will BA put effort into the route or will they fly it with the intention of stopping other airlines from flying the route?
BA serving the Liverpool/Heathrow route was one of the 'full service' airlines that I have been told about.
Still trying to find out how 'real' the other rumoured airline is to fly out of Liverpool. If this rumour is true it will be a return to Liverpool for the airline.
Will BA put effort into the route or will they fly it with the intention of stopping other airlines from flying the route?
BA serving the Liverpool/Heathrow route was one of the 'full service' airlines that I have been told about.
Still trying to find out how 'real' the other rumoured airline is to fly out of Liverpool. If this rumour is true it will be a return to Liverpool for the airline.
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With BA's considerable frequency and pretty much dedicated terminal and facilities through MAN to LGW and LHR, why would they massively dilute this by operating 5 daily flights from LPL to LHR?
Makes no sense at all to me.
Which other 'full service' carrier has been rumoured? I take it from comments above that it's BMI?
FO
Makes no sense at all to me.
Which other 'full service' carrier has been rumoured? I take it from comments above that it's BMI?
FO
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Does this other airline have a baby!
As far as it diluting Manchester who's cares in fact couldn't give toss which of the two do LHR as long as LPL gets its service, after all VLM do LCY from both MAN/LPL.
Does this other airline have a baby!
As far as it diluting Manchester who's cares in fact couldn't give toss which of the two do LHR as long as LPL gets its service, after all VLM do LCY from both MAN/LPL.
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The diluting argument is something that has been aired here before.
When it was rumoured that VLM were to fly LPL/LCY there were those who dismissed it out of hand saying much the same as FTO has above.
When they, VLM, did announce the route nothing changed in those opposed to Liverpools attempt to grow pronouncements.
VLM have since said it is their best ever start to a new route in its history.
I have heard that VLM is looking to grow is presence at Liverpool in the wake of its success on the LPL/LCY route.
So all in all, I think that BA serving LPL with ALL of its might maybe a tad unbelievable given its attempts in the not-so-distant past.
When it was rumoured that VLM were to fly LPL/LCY there were those who dismissed it out of hand saying much the same as FTO has above.
When they, VLM, did announce the route nothing changed in those opposed to Liverpools attempt to grow pronouncements.
VLM have since said it is their best ever start to a new route in its history.
I have heard that VLM is looking to grow is presence at Liverpool in the wake of its success on the LPL/LCY route.
So all in all, I think that BA serving LPL with ALL of its might maybe a tad unbelievable given its attempts in the not-so-distant past.
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If this rumour is true it will be a return to Liverpool for the airline
If true, this might explain EZY's interest in having a pop at Manchester-Amsterdam as a bit of a tit-for-tat move?
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KLM, Air France and LOT are said to be looking at Liverpool.
Look at earlier in the thread with a post by Vampy saying "LOT are looking for a 3weekly service to Warsaw, presumably in direct competition with Wizzair. KLM and Air France are also sniffing around. Watch this space......"
BTW, I think I missed BA and BMI reclassifying themselves as LCC's.
Look at earlier in the thread with a post by Vampy saying "LOT are looking for a 3weekly service to Warsaw, presumably in direct competition with Wizzair. KLM and Air France are also sniffing around. Watch this space......"
BTW, I think I missed BA and BMI reclassifying themselves as LCC's.