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City of Derry getting coverage today on both Radio Foyle and Donegal Highland Radio.
After the recent rates increase by Derry and Strabane Council then the cost of the airport is getting the usual scrutiny.
According to commentators overall the airport costs approx £3.5 million to run PA and the estimated return to North West is approx £7 million pa.
The airport also confirmed today on Radio Foyle that the Citywing Derry->Dublin flights are definitely going ahead and will be on sale in the next few weeks.
After the recent rates increase by Derry and Strabane Council then the cost of the airport is getting the usual scrutiny.
According to commentators overall the airport costs approx £3.5 million to run PA and the estimated return to North West is approx £7 million pa.
The airport also confirmed today on Radio Foyle that the Citywing Derry->Dublin flights are definitely going ahead and will be on sale in the next few weeks.
Not sure where the figures come from and knowing the councils accounting history you could be forgiven for being a bit skeptical of them.
Any bets on how long the Derry/Dublin flights will last this time?
Any info on the proposed Flybe routes that were coincidently highlighted just before the super council merger.
Who named it a super council anyway?
One thing that surprises me is why the present airport management restrict general aviation flying to their commercial opening times. This has an extremely negative effect from a PR perspective and financially for local clubs and presumably the maintenance outfit based on the airfield.
There are no legal, security or safety reasons for this that I'm aware of.
Any bets on how long the Derry/Dublin flights will last this time?
Any info on the proposed Flybe routes that were coincidently highlighted just before the super council merger.
Who named it a super council anyway?
One thing that surprises me is why the present airport management restrict general aviation flying to their commercial opening times. This has an extremely negative effect from a PR perspective and financially for local clubs and presumably the maintenance outfit based on the airfield.
There are no legal, security or safety reasons for this that I'm aware of.
They've extended the season by several months, though FR have yet to return route to its original schedule.
On another note. Jan 2016 saw the first growth in pax numbers for the first time in quite a while. Up 1.2% (modest, I know), this despite a drop in flight numbers of over 15%. A morsel of good news.
On another note. Jan 2016 saw the first growth in pax numbers for the first time in quite a while. Up 1.2% (modest, I know), this despite a drop in flight numbers of over 15%. A morsel of good news.
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Airport covered again today on Mark Patterson show on BBC Radio Foyle. He had the local head of Chamber of Commerce on the show.
Taken from the show Facebook page, here are what are considered the main pros/cons of the airport.
https://www.facebook.com/markpattersonshow/?fref=ts
City of Derry Airport - Keep It? Or Drop It?
We've looked at this many times. Latest figures: City of Derry Airport cost the rate payer £3.4 million this past year. Let's keep this simple:
Arguments For City of Derry Airport
~ For Council, the airport remains "a key element of the infrastructural development for the North West region"
~ It directly employees 114 staff
~ Council say it generates 3 times the revenue that is spent on it. They say that in 2012 "the Gross Value Added to the local economy was £7million"
~ In 2010 the Council 'subvention' was £4.5 million. So that figure has fallen by £1million+
~ 287,000 people used the airport in 2015
~ Might City-wing to Dublin improve things?
Fact: Of the Council £3.4 million, £2.1 million is to run the airport, £1.3m is to repay capital loans
Arguments Against City of Derry Airport
~ The public money. £3.4 million in an Council area this size is massive
~ The Airport just doesn't seem to have 'taken 'off' anything like Antrim and George Best have done in private hands
~ The private sector have always seemed uninterested in buying City of Derry Airport
~ Destinations are limited to say the least
~ User numbers. Down 18.8% last year to just over 284,000.
~ Ryanair seem to have called the shots down the years. Has their clout been good for Derry?
~ Taxis aside, infrastructure to and from the airport is pretty non-existent. The train passes under the flight path - you can actually see trains go by from the terminal - but there's no rail station
Over to you ... [1.40]
All week we've been talking about City of Derry airport, the story has now reached over 10,000 of you here on our FB. To recap:
~ there is a possibility of CityWing bringing back a Dublin flight
~ £3.4 million of rates is still being spent as an annual 'subvention' to keep the airport running and pay off old debt
~ Newquay Airport. Their Chairman told me that airport is roughly the same size as ours. They also get 7 figure civic funding. He said it's a lifeline to a part of Cornwall that could otherwise be a transport backwater.
Today, let's hear a local business perspective. Gavin Killeen is the President of the Londonderry Chamber of Commerce. Today, his perspective on the future of the airport. [2.00]
Taken from the show Facebook page, here are what are considered the main pros/cons of the airport.
https://www.facebook.com/markpattersonshow/?fref=ts
City of Derry Airport - Keep It? Or Drop It?
We've looked at this many times. Latest figures: City of Derry Airport cost the rate payer £3.4 million this past year. Let's keep this simple:
Arguments For City of Derry Airport
~ For Council, the airport remains "a key element of the infrastructural development for the North West region"
~ It directly employees 114 staff
~ Council say it generates 3 times the revenue that is spent on it. They say that in 2012 "the Gross Value Added to the local economy was £7million"
~ In 2010 the Council 'subvention' was £4.5 million. So that figure has fallen by £1million+
~ 287,000 people used the airport in 2015
~ Might City-wing to Dublin improve things?
Fact: Of the Council £3.4 million, £2.1 million is to run the airport, £1.3m is to repay capital loans
Arguments Against City of Derry Airport
~ The public money. £3.4 million in an Council area this size is massive
~ The Airport just doesn't seem to have 'taken 'off' anything like Antrim and George Best have done in private hands
~ The private sector have always seemed uninterested in buying City of Derry Airport
~ Destinations are limited to say the least
~ User numbers. Down 18.8% last year to just over 284,000.
~ Ryanair seem to have called the shots down the years. Has their clout been good for Derry?
~ Taxis aside, infrastructure to and from the airport is pretty non-existent. The train passes under the flight path - you can actually see trains go by from the terminal - but there's no rail station
Over to you ... [1.40]
All week we've been talking about City of Derry airport, the story has now reached over 10,000 of you here on our FB. To recap:
~ there is a possibility of CityWing bringing back a Dublin flight
~ £3.4 million of rates is still being spent as an annual 'subvention' to keep the airport running and pay off old debt
~ Newquay Airport. Their Chairman told me that airport is roughly the same size as ours. They also get 7 figure civic funding. He said it's a lifeline to a part of Cornwall that could otherwise be a transport backwater.
Today, let's hear a local business perspective. Gavin Killeen is the President of the Londonderry Chamber of Commerce. Today, his perspective on the future of the airport. [2.00]
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In my humble eyes it's simple really, from a people's point of view and value for money.....
Let's say on average each household and business in the l/Derry Strabane area use the airport on one occasion each year? Does this exceed £160 pounds in additional rates to prop up the airport ? If so it needs closed as a return taxi to Egaa would be cheaper for that household giving them better value for THEIR money.......
Let's say on average each household and business in the l/Derry Strabane area use the airport on one occasion each year? Does this exceed £160 pounds in additional rates to prop up the airport ? If so it needs closed as a return taxi to Egaa would be cheaper for that household giving them better value for THEIR money.......
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With the rumours of FR about to start routes in direct competition to FR is there a chance Ryanair may leave LDY to concentrate on BFS?
Would BE then arrive at LDY and give it a 2nd go? The are expanding again at small regional airports
Would BE then arrive at LDY and give it a 2nd go? The are expanding again at small regional airports
BHD2BFS - you're not the only one to think this
http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...ml#post9235785
http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...ml#post9235785
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Well looks like the City Wing Derry - Dublin flight may not even get off the ground.
WTF is going on!
What?s happening to the Derry to Dublin flights? - Derry Journal
An Isle of Man based airline last night refused to comment on whether flights from Derry to Dublin are to start operating in April.
‘Citywing’ was due to start operating twice daily flights from Derry to Dublin. There were also plans to provide flights to the Isle of Man twice a week.
However, yesterday when the ‘Journal’ checked the airline’s website there was no facility to book flights from Derry to Dublin and no mention of the planned route.
WTF is going on!
What?s happening to the Derry to Dublin flights? - Derry Journal
An Isle of Man based airline last night refused to comment on whether flights from Derry to Dublin are to start operating in April.
‘Citywing’ was due to start operating twice daily flights from Derry to Dublin. There were also plans to provide flights to the Isle of Man twice a week.
However, yesterday when the ‘Journal’ checked the airline’s website there was no facility to book flights from Derry to Dublin and no mention of the planned route.
Looks like the airport may have got an extra bit of breathing space with announcement that the A6 improvements will be subject to fund availability.
Maybe if the airport were to close they could utilize the money saved there for the road!!!!!
Maybe if the airport were to close they could utilize the money saved there for the road!!!!!
Great idea Solar. The annual cost of the airport would really make a big dent in the £420m the road from Derry to Dungiven is estimated to be. Just need another £417m and we're sorted.
Ah! Tower Ranger. How I've missed your insight. Close the airport, save the ratepayers a few quid. What else can we close to fund the road? Any ideas?
Aer Ryan. Yeah. The area has the highest unemployment rate, lowest average earnings, and after West Belfast, the lowest life expectancy in these islands. The reasons for all of this can be traced to our illustrious leaders, both past and present, who have done f&@% all for the city.
Aer Ryan. Yeah. The area has the highest unemployment rate, lowest average earnings, and after West Belfast, the lowest life expectancy in these islands. The reasons for all of this can be traced to our illustrious leaders, both past and present, who have done f&@% all for the city.