Ancient Geek, thanks for the education. There's no excuse or justification for apartheid though.

Enough of the thread hijack, me thinks its time to get back on topic.

titaniumspoon,
WHY, pray tell?
I asked a valid question that was truthfully answered, what is disgusting about that? Or is it possibly that you (like myself) were expecting to hear it was a black person, thus allowing more of the same old, same old ranting and raving that gets so soon tiring?

Personally, I am quite relieved it was a white person that presided, specifically so that there could be no yelling and shouting about colour bias:ugh:, now all we have to gripe about is that it was a woman and that is so last year, isn't it?.......:ouch:



coat, hat, door.......

Current laws do nothing more then fuel hatred toward the black race. If the school geek goes to the headmaster and has name calling against him banned, will he become more popular or less?

I just wonder what it is with the West, the White West if you like, that drives them to treat blacks like a protected species, to the white's own detriment.

They pour aid into Africa, despite being burned time and time again by despots, dictators and corrupt black government officials.

The blacks chant is 'give me, give me, give me' and the whites give, give, give, only ever taking whilst bending over. In SA the Zuma government is corrupt from the top, in a feeding frenzy enriching themselves to the detriment of all in the land, protected species such as rhino and perlemoen included. Take, take, take.

Say anything against them and the blacks immediately pull the race or the apartheid card. And the whites are made to back off by other whites. Amazing.

I just want to point out that apartheid wasn't the Holocaust. We didn't gas and kill six million of them. We didn't do what the Spanish did to the Incas, wiping them out and stealing and melting down every last cultural treasure.
It wasn't Pol Pot, it wasn't Idi Amin, it wasn't Rwanda, it wasn't Taylor...
Sure there were some opressive laws, the blacks didn't have the vote, but then women in the UK didn't have the vote until 1867, Denmark in 1909... progression takes time. Sure there were demarcated areas in which they weren't allowed to live but they weren't being hunted down and killed. Sure they weren't allowed to marry whites but very few do today even though these laws have been repealed. It only lasted about 30 years - it wasn't the Hundred Years War. We didn't nuke them like the Americans did to the Japanese, we didn't carpet bomb them and we didn't bomb them with nerve gas. Sh1ttier things have happened to people.

Apartheid has been over now for 15 years, half the period it was active for. It is time to get over it. The blacks need to get over it and stop using it as an excuse for their own inefficiency and the western whites, who dont even live in Africa, need to wisen up and start unravelling the wool over their eyes.

The human race is collectively the important thing here, the irreplaceable animal species being destroyed, and the damage being done to the environment. It is wrong that the blacks are not allowed to be criticised when they have time and time again proven themselves absolutely worthy of such criticism.... time for fairness and equity on a global scale to prevail.

Nice post JG but you are farting against thunder. Common sense and rationality will never defeat ignorance and emotions.

so true JG :ok:

Firing the captain was a bit too harsh IMHO. As a black man having lived in both the US and SA, I think this racism crap is blown way out of proportion. So the captain made a mistake, but ridding him of a career to send a message to others is no way to punish him. Suspension without pay for a couple of months would be the most he should get. If you called your wife a b***h behind her back and she got wind of it, she won't divorce you. Rather she'll just deny you conjugal rights for a while and move on. I say the union should come in and look out for a comrade.

About using the race card, I personally have never done it but I think black people in most parts of the world have been accommodated quite well by our white brothers. Why can't we all just get along? After all, we all share the same passion in flying.

Have a colorless day now, won't you!:cool:

oom & JG,
Both very good points, thank you.

EchoKilo - OUTSTANDING post! You could not have said it better my brother!:ok:

EchoKilo- Now you are talking!!
We need more guys like you. Maybe we can all just get along. Life is way too short to hold grudges.
In the end we all bleed red!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Titaniumspoon, I don't get this comment. Please expand on your statement. The Captain is a friend of mine and I hold him in high regard. Someone asked the question, I gave the answer.

Common sense
 

JG1,well said,about time everyone realised"the emporer isnt wearing any clothes".

Echokilo,I salute you for simply being a fellow human and aviator.

Apology to JBayfan
 

My apology requested, I read your post's wrong. (need reading specs)....:uhoh:

Eagleflier's crit
 

Ancient Geeks education???

Well now Eagleflier, would you care to give a thorough crit of all the points that JG1 pointed out in post# 44 ? Please try at least to be objective in world-weighting-wrongs and where you (and apparently the rest of the world too) feel Apartheid should be placed on an arbitrary scale of offensiveness? I.e. Stalin/Pol-Pot/Mao/Hitler/Aboriginals/American-Indians/Rwanda etc.......

:ugh::ugh::ugh:
Why do I keep hitting my head on the wall???????

Echo kilo :very sensible answer .:D

Echo Kilo: You are a scholar and a gentleman.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

The final outcome is that the Captain will not lose his job but has been given a final written warning. This is a sensible decision taking by the SAA CEO in conjunction with significant assistance and support to the pilot by SAAPA, the SAA pilot's union.

sanity prevails.......and the next time we get irritated by the no-show of our ground services...(which happens all to often)......chill pill time

He should have received a Medal of Honour!:ugh:

True
 

I have heard it from the mouths of our fellow blacks on many occasions. Although I also agree that it is an ugly word to use and a lot more of us use it on a daily basis then we'd probably like to admit. Pity about the captain in questions situation.