Midair in Angola?
 

Heard this afternoon a possible midair in southern Angola between TAAG B737 and B200. Anybody shed any light. Herk Jerk???

No news yet ?
 

ALLAFRICA

As of 2200 Z nothing on this link yet (normally they will be first with the news) ? Hopefully wrong info. Southern Africa do not need msihaps like this - although we all seen to know it will happen sooner than later ... especially over Angola. Even so hopefully wrong !

Fortunately it appears that it was only a near miss. I was bombing around in the big blue when I over heard the TAAG crew muttering on the RT. It appears as if a company in Namibia (name associated with a direction) aircraft missed theres by less then 1000'. Luckly that is all.

That's "better" ..
 

"Better" News but still sad to know how easilly things could have turned for the worse ... and we all know THAT area ! :eek:

Mid air in Namibia
 

I saw that there was a post about midair in Angola. I can confirm that there was midair yesterday (26th Dec) over Namibia.

It was between a TAAG B737 outbound from FYWH and an Air Namibia F407 out of Eros. The F407 lost most of the rudder and about a meter of the wing. The pilot landed safely back at Eros. As far as I know there were NO injuries. This can only be described as a miracle. The TAAG B737 continued on to Luanda.

Overheard on ATC chatter was TAAG saying that the Air Namibia was at the incorrect level. However that cannot be confirmed.

Being a regular operator in & out of Windhoek, it’s scary to think that there are aircraft flying about without the mode 'C' on and/or that airlines don't have/use the TCAS.

This is correct
 

Avi8tor,

Absolutely spot on with your post. Had confirmation from Windhoek about the collision and there definately were no injuries. Very, very lucky.

Scary state of affairs. :eek:

It would always be better if the TAAG & SAL crews spent more time being pros and less time discussing yesterdays lunch choice or the activities of the expats at Rialto, Miami or Palos on 124.1 and 118.9
AS THEY TEND TO BLOCK THE FREQUENCY

Rant for the day over and out. :mad:

Go 4 it Hogs
 

IHD,

Yeah we have a similar problem ... but worse to come is the 32 odd Russian / Ukranian crews in Mi-8 / 17's /24's and 26'ses that fly low level in one of the smallest countries in Africa without knowing more than a single word of English :mad:

It's been close on plenty occasions ... needless to say I fly a mile or five parrallel from the GPS track between the bigger towns. ;) Oh and then do not forget about the rain storms / tropical thunderstorms to make your day between "pravda / nastarovia / da / Heili Selassie and so on :p

Have a ding - dong day !

Close
 

Close damn close ...

About two years ago a Mi-8 chopped a Let 410's tail nearly off in the Lungi circuit.

Uhmm look at my other post : Russian crew in heli / Polish in the Let and "learner" Sierra Leonean in the tower .. all landed safely :D THAT WAS CLOSE - if I have seen CLOSE :D

The Mi-8 was flying again the next day. He landed on the beach next to the runway. A Mi-26 cargo slinged him out and the crews fitted new blades during the night. The West Coast Let is STILL standing next to our Mi-17 (standing 4 years now) in the corner on the ramp at Lungi.

Gunners.... here's what you need to know.

Prevet, Ka-de-la, Horro-show, Shut the hell up Fox Fox Sierra.

I just have to see the gouge on the TAAG 737..... but its probably still flying................:D

I grew up ..
 

I grew up between Angola and Moz refugees in the early 70's ... sorry if I offend anyone but seriously the only Portuguese I remember was something like .. " a filla da poerta - a shistie di porri " ... something to that effect !

I also quickly learned that you must run very quickly afterwards :D

Will edit :eek: immediately :eek: if it offends anyone .. :confused:

PS.. So far word in my camp has it was out of Windhoek, the lighty ploughed in but the 73 continued on to Namibe with gash in wing... cannot confirm.
TCAS extensions?

Huh ?
 

Lo Herc Jerk,

Do I understand you right .. did the B200 crash ? :confused: ?

The other aircraft was a C404 not a F407??!!
As far as I know its Westair's aircraft flying for Air Namibia.

Close ,,oh so close
 

Reading this story must make one realise that the best form of protection is MK one eyeball. Also ,and I use it extensively enroute , is the one mile left or right off track as set into your GPS.

But what beats me is that the TAAG 737 continued on his journey after acknowledging the fact that he was involved in a collision with another aircraft. How was he able to ascertain the extent of the damage to his aircraft?

Perhaps he was worried about being investigated and the aircraft grounded pending said investigation.

Tcas, only fitted in most aircraft but who says they are actually used???

Hi, has anybody got more info in the midair that actually knows the aviation scene in Namibia ? Air Namibia flies F406's (Caravan 2), Westair flies C404's and F406's although not usually for Air Nam so who was it ? Also most A/c in Nam are Transponder equipped - definetely for Westair and Air Nam as both companies fly into SA airspace daily but to my knowledge neither have TCAS and whether TAAG has TCAS I do not know. Where was ATC in all of this ??:confused:

Aircraft was a C404 but according to an ATI report it WASN'T operating for Air Namibia but instead on a charter to pick up a TV crew.

C404 was clobbered over Windhoek by TAAG 737. Both a/c OK, though I suspect the C404 pilot will need new trousers.

It was A 404 Titan. The info we got here if sketchy but reliable.
The 404 was on route to a strip called Tsumkwye in the east of Namibia about 50 miles from the Bots Border. The 737 was on route from WHK Int to Angola (one of two stops before Luanda).
The 404 was at 115 and had just passed abeam the WHV.
The pilots reactions were brilliant to amazing. Occurding to him he caought a glimse of the 737 out the corner of his eye pulled the aircraft up.The right wing of the 737 went first through the right horizontal stabilizer damaging the evlevator then through the vertical stabalizer taking about a third of it with about a half of the rudder.It missed the second hinge by about one to two cetimeters by the looks of it.
The 737 said that it had just missed a small aircraft the 404 said it had just hit a @#$%ing big aircraft.The pilot of the 404 managed to put the aircraft down at Eros airport without inccident. My appriciation goes out to him to the skill and his handling of the aircraft. The 737 said it was proceeding on with it's flight.:eek: They say if the pilot had not pulled up the wing would have gone straight through the fuselage with terriable results.
I wonder if they are ever going to close the Barn door seeing that horse has been gone for ages.:(

WOW !!!
 

What an incredable tale of good fortune - no matter what Religion :D Sjeeesssss ...