Kingair 90 crashes at Lanseria Airport
 

Plane crashes at Lanseria Airport | News24

Report of 3 fatalities.

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Anyone know if the crew was Sim type rated, or another one of those 6 guys in the back for 2 hour type ratings a la Unkel Triple R.:hmm:

Flight Safety sim type rated in USA

Does anyone know what happened ?
The photos show wreckage in a rather peculiar place, 06L is rather long for a King Air to run off the end, maybe a stall on approach to 24R ?

There's quite a lot of informed chatter going on over at the dark side where there are some seemingly local lads discussing the sorry business.

2 missed approaches and sadly didn't work out on the 3rd

How many times is it that 'third attempt'? (See also the Cork crash.)

Just do two then go somewhere else...

Does anyone even know if there had been an IFR flight plan filed for the short hop from FAGM to FALA and therefor which under which rules the flight was being conducted?

That last comment really pisses me off.
How many planes have been bent on the 3rd try?
After flying two missed approaches and the 3 approaches, you could be at least half way to your alternate.

My personal philosophy. Approach, if you go missed, but looks like it might be good for a second shot. Give it a go. If not even close, divert.

If its because of a thunderstorm over the runway. Just hold. Its why I carry granny gas at this time of the year.

Just noticed that Lanseria has just had a major revamp and they now have only one wider runway 07/25. This probably mean that the ILS is not working yet which could be a factor ?.

The only real factor is getting yourself outside the limits prevailing on the day; be it, the limits of the weather, the limits of the aircraft, the limits of your skill level.

One odd, to me, factor.

The pilot had 20 years experience and was 59!

So he was a very late starter.

And, your point is...?

Ian

A really pointless and :mad: statement! :yuk:

I know pilots with 20 years of 'experience' and less than 1000 hours, so please, lets clarify the issue.

'Years' of experience and the age that a pilot 'starts' are totally irrelevant.

See http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources...1%20G-OJEM.pdf, noting para 1.5.1; para 2.1.2; para 2.1.3 and para 3(a)5.

The commander in this case had held a professional pilots licence for just under 10 years, so work out how much of a 'late starter' he was!

Hopefully that puts an end to any further twaddle about years of experience or 'late starters'!!

Trossie,

My point was quite simple, it is 'odd' meaning 'unusual.'

I know and have known many commercial and military pilots, the vast majority of them started their careers in aviation at a young age.

Far younger than in this case.

'Odd' to you, in your world, maybe. There is a big world out there. With many, many good pilots.

DON'T use 'age' or 'years of experience' as any meaningful yardstick. At all. Again, I shall use that HS748 pilot to back up my case.

But if all you know is less than that, so be it...

If experience is so meaningless, why are hours on type and total hours always prominently mentioned in accident reports?

And why does every long service pilot make a point of 'casually' mentioning how many hours he has accrued?