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Alexander Pichler 24th Mar 2012 13:33

C404 for bush operation
 
Hi guys,

I am looking desperately for a second Cesssna 404 built 1980 or later to purchase.

The two available on the market, German one and the one in New Zealand are already been taken into account.

Westair in Namibia operate C404 as well, but they are not willing to sell and I can understand that!

There should be 152 models built in 1980 and 1981. Maybe some crashed already or don't fly anymore.

I kindly ask you all, to please advice if you know anyone who operates C404, 1980 or later anywhere in the world.

Help appreciated and willing to offer a finders fee as well.

Please advice.

Regards,

Alex

Capt. Barberpole 24th Mar 2012 17:29

C-404
 
Hi Alex
No 404s listed here in the states as 1980 or newer.
Maine aviation sales, inc. have a 78 and a 77, They also have a very nice 85 414A
Kansas Aircraft Corp. Have a very nice C-414 a 82 model with very low eng. time. Looks like a very nice aircraft.

Best Regards
Capt. Barberpole:O

Alexander Pichler 24th Mar 2012 18:19

Hi,

thanks for your feedback, but C404 is the only MEP plane that will do:

2+8 for 1000nm.

Unless you know any other MEP plane with such a legal payload?

Regards

smallfry 25th Mar 2012 15:40

I have a few hundred hours on the 404.. lovely plane.. but it will be so expensive to run on AVGAS.
A caravan 208, Caravan 2 -406, or a king air would probably work out a better deal in the long run.
Does it HAVE to be MEP?

Alexander Pichler 25th Mar 2012 21:22

Hi,

yes, it has to be due to certain reasons.

AVGAS is organized, price is okay.

Regards

cavortingcheetah 26th Mar 2012 03:34

A little light googling revealed the following possibilities?

1980 CESSNA 404 for sale, Multi-Engine Prop for sale, Types, Aircraft for sale, World Aircraft Search: Aircraft for sale, used Airplanes for sale, Helicopter sales, Private Air Charter, Aircraft Leasing, Aircraft sales

And these people in South Africa who are not so far from where you seem to want to go and who could probably source one for you.
If you find one from them that has genuine log books and has been kept on the Reef, it is less likely to have rust damage in the fuselage than others perhaps?

Comair - Aircraft Sales

In addition to that, this magazine usually carries a good selection of second hand aircraft in the classified section and accepts wanted ads as well.

World Airnews - Africa's Journal for the Discerning Aviation Professional

Which reveals these suppliers of fine machines at crystal prices.

Money Aviation Helicopter & Aircraft Sales
Investment Aircraft Online - For secondhand, helicopters for sale, helicopters online, helicotper, used aircraft sales online

Finders fee for any sale resulting from the information contained within this posting will be 5% of net purchase price agreed between parties for each transaction or part thereof. Fee to be paid in US$ at time of purchase transaction. Contact may be maintained through these pages.

smallfry 26th Mar 2012 08:32

PM me. Might have clean low hour-ed one in Africa for you.

sicamore 26th Mar 2012 11:40

Proflight Zambia operates 401s, 402s and I believe a 404. There's a ton of them flying around southern Africa let alone Zambia. I think avocet is another zambian operator

Alexander Pichler 26th Mar 2012 19:40

@Cavortingcheetah, wrote you a PM
@Smallfry, wrote you a PM
@Sicamore, I checked their homepages, thanks, but it doesn't say that they operate any further more C404!?

Cheers

sicamore 27th Mar 2012 12:36

Alex, I was wrong,Pz just operates 401s, and 402s but I believe ngwazi air charters has a 404. All second hand info I am afraid

Alexander Pichler 27th Mar 2012 21:29

Thanks for advice, will write them!

Fuzzy Lager 28th Mar 2012 11:42

Hi Alex

Avirex in Gabon had a late serial number 404 that they were selling a while back. If I recall engines and props were new but some airframe maintenance was required.

A 404 is an exceptional aeroplane. I'm not a fan of MEP's in general but a 404 has a special place in my heart, there really is nothing else like it.

Vc10Tail 28th Mar 2012 11:49

C404 in Nairobi Wilson Aerodrome
 
Hi

Try Nairobi Wilson HKNW.I have seen a few lying there on scrap or abandoned.There is a lot of maintenance support availabloe locally to rebuild them if you want.There is also one that was lying as salvage at Malindi Aerodrome HKML in Kenya.

Am sure you can't miss in South Africa in Lanseria!

Good luck.

Jetjock330 28th Mar 2012 13:09

Nairobi Wilson
 
There are many of these in Nairobi Wilson. I seem to remember LONRHO had very nice one there a few years ago. I also remember seeing the turbine version around there too.

Alexander Pichler 28th Mar 2012 17:37

@ Fuzzy Lager: Can't find any contact details of them, have you maybe got any?
@Vc10Tail: Due to the fact that I am South African but no being in Europe, I don't know any operators at all in Wilson with C404. Could you name some please?
@Jetjock330: C404 with a turbine? That type of plane exists? :O Do you mean this company with Lonrho? http://www.lonrho.com/

Thanks all!

smallfry 28th Mar 2012 18:59

C404 with turbines.. is a C406. Built by Reims in France. I mentioned it in my post. Its a great aeroplane, non pressurised but strong.

Alexander Pichler 28th Mar 2012 20:48

The 406 I know, but not possible from the budget side unfortunately.

Please let me know as soon as you know more regarding what we wrote in the PM.

Greets

Blohm 28th Mar 2012 21:17

404
 
...a 404, can t find one? I came across two of them, without really looking, in the last three weeks. One in Europe, one in the Southern US. Now if the Autrian 19 year old does really need one, contact me. Put your money where your mouth is. I ll deliver!

Jetjock330 29th Mar 2012 00:09

Alex,
Yes, that London Rhodesia. Not sure who looked after it and if it is still around, but well looked after. LonRho East Africa, and correct about the C406 (F406) Turbine, built by Reims.

cessna c406 - Google Search

Happy hunting!

Alexander Pichler 29th Mar 2012 07:13

@ Blohm: Before blaming me, you should maybe read the topic of the thread.

It says looking for a SECOND C404, which means that we already have one.

Further, it must be a 1980 or 1981 model which kicks out the two in the US on Controller.

Then check who is promoting the sale of the German one, if I am not mistaking it is my company who promots it for sale and the owner himself on GA Buyer.

And yes, I am 19 years old, but if age is getting a problem here, then I don't know what to do, can't make myself older than I am.

By saying "desperately looking" for a second C404, it doesn't say at all that I am the one who has the money, maybe it's for one of my clients who is running an AOC somewhere on this planet?

I turned to this community because of its professional users and not because I am a tire kicker!

BUT never the less, no reason why to be impolite here from my side, if you have a 1980 C404 apart from the German one or the one in New Zealand which is for sale, you are more than welcome to present it to me and I will make sure that you are involved.

@Jetjock330: Thanks, will try to find out more from them!

Regards


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