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NamBoytjie 6th Feb 2012 18:46

Criminal record vs Aviation Career
 
Need your help on this one: Pilot with a criminal record: Any hope in the aviation industry? :ugh:

The Ancient Geek 6th Feb 2012 19:51

Its all about the details and individual company policies.

One conviction for drunk & disorderly 10 years ago as a teenager would probably not be an issue.

Murdering grannys for their pension books would probably be a no-no.

lilflyboy262...2 7th Feb 2012 00:29

Can also be an issue if you work for a carrier who flies into the states.

I thought when you went for a medical, you had to be "A person of good standing" or is that just in other parts of the world?

aimtofly 7th Feb 2012 01:12

It depends on what part of the world...... In US if it's a conviction on a felony, an airline job is out but Africa, much more lenient...I would say the nature of the crime plays a big role..

Solid Rust Twotter 7th Feb 2012 09:08

Yup, if it's big enough you may even be able to run for govt office.

NamBoytjie 7th Feb 2012 14:48

Let say I do get a job where it is required to do training in the States; will I be able to do the training there (keeping the "record" in mind)?

The SSK 7th Feb 2012 15:00

Why not apply for a US visa? If it's refused, then you have your answer.

Exascot 7th Feb 2012 15:12

I was accepted by the Royal Air Force with a criminal record - riding a bicycle without lights and brakes. However I think I blew my chances of a job here with my speeding fine in Maun just before Christmas - still sore about that one. How can I be trusted to reduce to 250 kts below 10,000 ft? :{

captplaystation 7th Feb 2012 17:27

The USA "appear" to have access to criminal records from some European countries, & no doubt many others.
For sure there will be a question on your Visa application, which you must decide how to answer.
Whether they will have access to something that happened in Africa ? who knows.
Applying for a work Visa for Namibia, they require me to provide a criminal record from my country of nationality, & of residence (if different) if you are from there, I don't know what will be asked in order to obtain a crew-member-certificate /airport badge, you would have to ask someone employed in the country you are thinking of working, but I would imagine they would ask a clear criminal record from your home country. Best idea is to ask someone who is currently working where you wish to be employed, a lot of variation in exact requirements, & indeed in the UK for example, there are "disqualifying offences" (of which there are many, some rather trivial.) & others which will not prevent you holding an airside badge. It is not a simple Yes or No, but undoubtedly "could" cause you problems,or prevent your employment completely.
Good Luck anyhow :ok:

lilflyboy262...2 7th Feb 2012 18:39

Again it depends on the conviction on whether you are allowed in or not. Small misdemeanors and you will be fine. But a bigger one... well you won't be allowed into the states.

B200Drvr 8th Feb 2012 01:56

Some countries will deny you a work permit based on any criminal record, I know for Saudi you have to have a clean police clearance. A good friend was denied a work permit for a 15 year old "conviction" for which he paid an admission of guilt fine, but it still showed up on his SA police clearance!!

unstable load 8th Feb 2012 07:47

There is an avenue in SA to get the record expunged, contact a lawyer and see what your options are.
It all depends on the nature of what you did.

captplaystation 8th Feb 2012 08:02

I guess 20 lashes won't hurt that much. . . . . :eek: :{

oompilot 8th Feb 2012 08:19

I would say keep it a secret. Only reveal the truth about burning down your last miser bosses house when you start S&T renegotiations after your first flight. It may give you an upper hand during negotiations. Just remember, no smiling and make use of the thousand yard stare. Good luck.

square-head 8th Feb 2012 10:49


I would say keep it a secret
Will not work if you have to get a certificiate of conduct from the police (also called police clearance certificate). You may not need it as a pilot, but many airports require that to issue you with an airport permit.

stilton 12th Feb 2012 07:12

'I was accepted by the Royal Air Force with a criminal record - riding a bicycle without lights and brakes'


Seriously, this 'offence' gave you a Criminal record ?

Exascot 12th Feb 2012 07:31


Seriously, this 'offence' gave you a Criminal record ?
I thought that if I confesed to that they would not dig any deeper.

The three cases of embezzlement and one of fraud may have made them think twice about trusting me with a flight imprest and the squadron fund :E

Solid Rust Twotter 12th Feb 2012 16:53

Pah! Amateurs. Got done for impersonating a hedgehog and murmuring with intent....:E

captplaystation 12th Feb 2012 17:23

Weren't you imitating a Starling, if you were "murmering" ? :rolleyes:

Solid Rust Twotter 12th Feb 2012 17:57

Nope. The hedgehog skin loincloth is what gave it all away...:suspect:

Let's not even go where the gerbils do.


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