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Travelman Africa 3rd Feb 2012 13:24

Another Antonov down
 
Tracep-Congo Aviation - The AN-28 was on approach to the small airfield of Namoya in Maniema Province, when contact was lost. the pilot of another plane reported seeing the wreckage of the An-28 in wooded area with no apparent indication of survivors. Recue teams found one passenger and one crewmember alive. The other three on board were found dead. The aircraft was on a mixed passenger-cargo flight from Bukavu.
NOTE: This accident marks the 4th hull loss event for Tracep Congo since 2006. (3 of them were An-28s)
Give it up guys

tu144 3rd Feb 2012 17:55

from aviation-safety.net

The manufacturer reported that the airworthiness of this aircraft (msn 1AJ006-11) had expired on June 12, 1993.

oompilot 3rd Feb 2012 23:08

If so, end of that thread then. Buffoons.

The Ancient Geek 4th Feb 2012 11:34

More of the same, SOP for DRC.
The only cure is to get rid of the curruption that allows them to fly.

OTOH maybe the problem will fix itself when they eventually run out of dodgy ex-soviet aircraft and the unqualified aircrew to crash them.

surely not 4th Feb 2012 14:37

Well then I guess you haven't lost a close friend in one of the crashes in DRC The Ancient Greek. It doesn't have to be a an old time expired Russian aircraft, my friend died in a CRJ accident on 4th April last year.

So I think your idea is a tactless, ill thought out pile of junk every bit as dangerous as the Russian aircraft and crew.

captain mpi 9th Feb 2012 07:13

surely not,

Calm down. Please read the title of the thread.
I understand your emotions, but it has nothing to do with your friend.
You might not have worked with or alongside ex-Soviet aircrew, otherwise you would have understood The Ancient Geek's post.
I agree with him about the corruption.

Cheers dude. Keep the chin up.

Solid Rust Twotter 9th Feb 2012 09:24

Furthermore, a lot of us on here have lost friends, colleagues and mentors in aviation. It's the nature of the business. Our job is to mitigate that risk. Sometimes we get it wrong.

tu144 13th Feb 2012 00:08

Here is a link to story about the captain Владимир Курбатов Vladimir Kurbatov of the flight :: komikz.ru but in Russian. It talks about his life and how he loved flying. Interesting superstitions mentioned in there that the wife had dream about receiving white flowers before she found out he died. When you dream about white flowers it's a bad sign. She previously had a dream about white flowers and a few days later her mother died. She usually always came to the airport with the captain to say bye when he left for Africa but this time she did not because she was sick. His family was begging him not to go to Africa again but he needed the money and he promised them this would be his last trip. His regular co pilot who was another experienced russsian was supposed fly with him but could not because he got sick he also was telling him not to take the flight. Instead the captain had to fly with some fresh out of flight training Indian kid. Also talks about how a lot of these guys have no choice but to go to Africa because they can't find work back home. A lot of times the companies in afrika rip them off and the Russian government does not help or protect them.

tu144 13th Feb 2012 06:49

Wow look at how many accidents this outfit had amazing. Aviation Safety Network > ASN Aviation Safety Database > Operator index > Congo (Democratic Republic) > TRACEP :eek:

tu144 14th Feb 2012 05:02

From the article the Captain seemed pretty well qualified.

Mobotu 18th Feb 2012 09:16

Surely Not - You forgot the part about the crew of the CRJ being Russian(Ukranian) so no difference with the AN28 in reality.
From the accident report - The crew decided to make a go around and conducted their circuit at 500ft instead of following the published Missed Approach Procedure(Sounds familiar to most of us who share the sky with these guys) - their Visual circuit terminated in them being unstablised in heavy rain, hitting the runway with a high vertical speed, bouncing, rotating the aircraft to the GA attitude but FORGETTING the spool up time on the engines, stalling, rolling inverted and crashing in a ball of flames with only one lucky Congolese survivor.
I will reserve comment so as not to offend the over-sensitive.


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