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CXtreme 7th Jul 2010 20:57

Is South Africa really ready
 
I have friends from here ( Germany) who could not make the game as the airport could not handle the traffic. Unacceptable

Doodlebug 7th Jul 2010 21:49

Pre 1994, when South Africa was a first-world country that had built the atom-bomb, pioneered heart-transplants, had one of the world's finest military forces, was at the forefront of research in many fields, had universities on a par with those in the rest of the world, had a functioning infrastructure, etc, etc, etc ad infinitum, it would have been ready.

Or am I not allowed to say that :rolleyes:

MafiMushkallah 8th Jul 2010 04:01

... and the German team?
 
On the face of it the German team did not pitch up to the game either - wonder what their excuse is :ouch:

Habari 8th Jul 2010 05:32

Doodlebug,

I don't think you are allowed to say that, but just to let you know there are many thousands of us out here who think you are right!!!!!

cavortingcheetah 8th Jul 2010 07:13

No question about that Doodlebug.
I'll blow my stolen Vuvuhorn to that. It is, by their own admission on CNN, the greatest tradition that the oppressed indigents have as a relic of their own contribution to their culture.
I am not sure that indigent is the correct word here, but I use it in the context of a singular of the indigenous which, considering that the original Vuvuzela came from a Koodoo horn, is probably a lot of mouldy old decayed bull.

Capetonian 8th Jul 2010 07:35


Or am I not allowed to say that
As far as I know there is no law against stating the truth, particularly when it's blatantly obvious and when about 50 million people would agree with you.

cavortingcheetah 8th Jul 2010 08:25

I think the cautionary note was more in anticipation of the vox moderati rather than the vox populi. The one does not necessarily, for a whole raft of reasons, not necessarily agree with the other.

chileno 777 8th Jul 2010 14:46

DOODLEBUG

It’s true that actual South Africa does not qualify for the first world stage and a lot must still be done. But regarding your statement of pre 1994 can only say that a country who praises itself of belonging to the 1st world MUST distribute its benefits to ALL their citizens without any kind of discrimination. Unfortunately all the developments that you mentioned existing in South Africa before 1994 were only allowed to the whites and let the 85 % of the population OUT. Without any doubt a nation who accepts this does not belong to the first world rating of any kind.

JetPark 8th Jul 2010 14:58

Well said Chileno 777 - there is nothing 1st world about a non-democratic country. Whilst there is little doubt that we have a long way to go, we must not forget that we are a 16 year old democracy and there are those so-called first world countries that have 1,000 year old democracies that haven't always got it right either! I know, I have lived in them! Now.......back to flying :rolleyes:

Capetonian 8th Jul 2010 15:22

Democracy has done a lot of good for sub-Saharan Africa, hasn't it? The transformation of Rhodesia into democratic Zimbabwe is a perfect example, and one which South Africa seems to be following in some regards.

flux 8th Jul 2010 15:30

Did not realise things were so fairly distributed in Angola! :hmm:

Doodlebug 8th Jul 2010 15:35

''...MUST distribute it's benefits to all it's citizens with no discrimination.."

The 1st world European country I reside in today distributes bugger-all to those too lazy to work.

Thank you for demonstrating so very succinctly the sense of entitlement that infests Africa whereever one goes, dooming it to underachieve forever.

maxrated 8th Jul 2010 16:30


I have friends from here ( Germany) who could not make the game as the airport could not handle the traffic. Unacceptable
Buying a ticket on a plane that is planned to land a mere 2 hours before the start of the game you are coming to see seems unrealistically optimistic to me, even by 1st world standards. :=:=

Any intelligent person would have considered the " Africa" factor.

Proper planning prevents p1ss poor performance.

millertime 8th Jul 2010 16:35

Lucky I am not a cynic, otherwise I would have thought that you are relieved that there were problems last night (in an otherwise impeccably run World Cup of which I think we can be justifiably proud), otherwise those wise predictions that you made with your mates over boerewors and beer that the SWC would be a huge flop would have been wrong. Now you can proudly say I told you so!

But seeing as I am not a cynic I would never believe that of you, and understand that you really feel sorry for the approx 400 people out of 91000 that missed the game and that you are not jumping for joy saying " I told you so"

Can't wait for the Final it is going to be great

chileno 777 8th Jul 2010 22:44


Did not realise things were so fairly distributed in Angola!

What a stupid comment and basic comparison. By the way I am not from Angola and in case that you did not realize it...I have never said that Angola (or Chile) is/are a First World country.:ugh:

Goldfish Jack 8th Jul 2010 22:56

Maxrated hit the nail on the head

For a game of this stature anywhere in the world only a village idiot would arrive at an airport 2 hours before the game and then try and get to the stadium - what about the queues at the stadium as well?

PPPPPP

chileno 777 8th Jul 2010 23:02


The 1st world European country I reside in today distributes bugger-all to those too lazy to work.

So you are saying that it would be better idea to start to discriminate because there are too many lazy people :yuk: (it sounds slightly fascist to me)



Note: sorry but will not reply anymore regarding this matter since the discussion has gone totally out of aviation

CXtreme 9th Jul 2010 06:02

So now it is the money paying supporters fault? I lot of money was paid to FIFA approved travel agents and my friends also confirmed that they would be booked on FIFA approved airlines. How is this their fault?

unstable load 9th Jul 2010 06:35


I lot of money was paid to FIFA approved travel agents and my friends also confirmed that they would be booked on FIFA approved airlines. How is this their fault?
Clearly it isn't their fault. Why not blame the moron that booked them to arrive 2 hours before the flight?:confused: How can it possibly be South Africa's fault that some idiot did not think to anticipate delays at an event of that size? Hell, it's a 20 minute plus drive to the stadium on a good day.

cavortingcheetah 9th Jul 2010 06:39

This becomes absurd, as does much else in life of course. Now the aviation community has 'FIFA approved airlines'? The wannabies out there had better start changing their swotting style. Soon the multiple ATPL examination choices might be more geared towards establishing your knowledge of the color of Renaldo's facial hair or Vicky baby's hemline length!
South Africa has done a jolly good job on the whole. As a Saffer sceptic, I have to take my scrambled eggy hat off to the men at the centre of the spider's web.
The Olympics next? Well, who knows, but that must be the end game in many of the minds of the cash conscious. I don't think patriotism comes into sport any more, after all, look at the British football team, a fragmented mob of individual barbarians attempting to present a unified front in the face of a coach whose linguistic skills are as limitied as his apparent abilities.
Well done SA.
As for the congestion at the airport ramps, the solution or balm to the soul is simple enough. Thirty minutes park time either side of slot and thereafter or therebefore $10k a minute and design some large wheel clamps as well!


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