Who Knew.
 

I guess no answer thus far from anybody probably means Indigo is out of business? It's coming up to 10 months since operations has stopped. Big reasons from what is being said around old staff and other pilots around Zanzibar is that they did not care about there passengers by refunding there money when many of the flights were canceled due to big maintenance problems and that Indigo Aviation did not care about paying there staff in full or at all because they lacked the funds. One pilot even told me that most of there crew which were South African refuse now to even fly for them because of safety constantly being compromised and wages not being paid in full or at time's delayed or even not at all.

PM's
 

Sorry I have not checked my PM's to answer some questions. I would not recommend for anybody to go to work for this company.

It is not a matter of how wise one might be, These people WILL screw any pilot or mechanic that goes there. He will not pay, you WILL fly in level 3 & 4 thunderstorms, between 10-15,000 foot mountains while you are getting drenched from rain coming from behind the attitude indicator among other places.

I was very very lucky, in that I had a very smart Co-Pilot that could fly us between 2 13,000 foot mountains in a heavy thunderstorm and do our own makeshift stepdowns by looking at a navigation map and land in a remote strip.

This is no joke, you are in their world, and in their world they will pay the police to put you in jail if you want to leave the company, so you must not say a word, just get on a airplane and GO, when the time comes.

If your hungry to fly a DC-3 there are other places to do it, but do not go to Indigo. they do not hire black pilots, and if you are white no matter if your from the USA, SA, EA, or any other country, they will :mad: you.

Thought they just flew between Dar and Zanzi :E

Where on earth where you going when you were anywhere near 13000 foot mountains?

Thought they just flew between Dar and Zanzi
 

I believe when I arrived they had pretty much lost that route, since they did not have reliability that the others offered. We flew alot to Mbeya, Iringa, there were also charters. If I remember correctly when we would fly from (ZNZ-DAR-Iringa-Mbeya-Iringa-DAR-ZNZ) it was 9 hours and change of flight time in one day, and it ended up being 11-14 hours of duty time.

Indigo Aviation
 

Indigo is now under new ownership,is well financed and debt free.The new owners would appreciate if past pilots,whose own records are appalling ensure that they differentiate between new and old Indigo when they post.

Richardprice1962

You say that the new owners would appreciate that the past pilots differentiate between the new and old Indigo because there records are appalling! This just say's to me that you are associated with Indigo's old owners and are even ready to begin your own lies and deceitfulness. What would you know about their past pilot's? The fact is I know of Indigo's past pilots and they were honest, hard working and really cared about Indigo's success. Indigo Aviation screwed them out of there pay and blamed them for there own poor management. The pilots had every right to post their opinion and facts about this terrible and unsafe company. So I really doubt that it has changed or even has any good intentions to begin a new start.

Your comment is also insulting, if the new owners are "well financed and dept free" which is also probably another lie. Why does Indigo not go back and also pay the remaining salaries of their local underpaid staff. Also why did the new owners not get in touch with all the other pilots they once had and pay salary that is owned with an apology, maybe then you will have nice comments.

Good luck finding anybody to work or even fly with Indigo Aviation the No Go Aviation Company of Tanzania.

RE: Indigo
 

"well financed and debt free"
I really doubt this because I have not seen a envelope with cash in it, so your still in debt to me. And you maybe well financed by a person from the USA but they will soon find out that your a crook and will take their money too.

As far as I know Indigo is under the same ownership, I don't know any of the old crew that had appalling records, other than the owner and his right hand man, I guess if your speaking of those two, then I agree.

I know this may be a last ditch effort to clear the dirty indigo name, but don't come on here and lie and try to con people into doing things that are not true, your not debt free, you will always steal investors money, customers money, and crews money.

Disronny and Chums
 

Have you guys had a look at the balance sheet?I guess you must have as you seem pretty well informed.Where did you see the balance sheet?

Debt Free
 

The term "debt free" makes me laugh.You will be "debt free" when you have paid in full;
Bruce,Adam. Ferdi, Jayson and Mike (and probably others unknown to me) what they were promised when you conned them into following you to DAR.
We know its you JMV you were looking for a mechanic only a few weeks ago to be another victim. Luckily your reputation preceeds you and I doubt if there are there is anyone fool enough to work for free for you.

BTW
 

BTW the aircraft formerly ZS-LVR Is way over time on a check 4 and the only mechanic with a current DC-3 license in RSA has refused to work on the aircraft because of JMV's unique business ethics or lack of them.

fact
 

Richardprice1962 what does the balance sheet have to do with all the FACT'S that is being posted on this site? Indigo's extremely poor reputation towards it's ex-pilots and poor service towards it's ex-passengers has been proven over and over again. You are talking about a "balance sheet" what "balance sheet"? You show us the FACT'S on this so called bogus "balance sheet". Oh yeah and don't forget about all those passengers that were refused a refund when Indigo canceled many of it's flights due to poor maintenance practices because of inadequate support of it's engineers. These customers as well should be refunded, after all Indigo is now "debt free" and well financed as you so proudly stated.

5H-DAK
 

I also heard that one of the engines is way past it's expiry date.

& BTW
 

If this so called new owner had any sense at all they would have at least tried to contact all of Indigo's ex-pilots and maintenance staff and asked for some of their opinion on what actually went wrong with Indigo and why the bad reputation; instead this so called "new management" starts off by criticizing Indigo's ex-pilots on their "appalling" post's. I highly doubt this company is committed to change and to making amends with it's horrible business practices.

tire
 

I think I just saw one of the DC3 with a flat tire sitting in the grass. When was the last time these airplanes were even started? Looks like they are moving nicely ahead a predicted.

I hear JMV has recruited yet another unlicensed spanner turner for his DAR ops. Any one know more?

Poor guy walked into my hangar (in Dar) the other day, was looking for a fitting for an oil pipe. Didn't greet me! I had to find out from my staff who he was and what he was doing here.

Now for all those pilots out there (and engineers that don't know what they are doing) when you walk into someones hangar, it's very insulting if you don't let the Chief Engineer know that you are there. If he's not around talk with his 2IC.

Anyway, i was quite encouraged to see something might be happening. It's horrible to see those aircraft parked off in ZNZ.

Mark your words disronny . .
 

I think "disronny" should take back his statement. All expat pilots in Tanzania are properly trained, and fly properly maintained aircraft. Minor snags are noted and planes are flown according to the MEL's. Some of the Tanzanian pilots may have some bad habits and expose their cowboy flying skill daily. Specifics !! get it right! Indigo has a bad rep, and I knew a few of the crew there. They did not pay the crew, they are behind on TCAA fees etc etc.

T.I.A! organised crime seems to be confusing many.

Another rumour
 

Seems the new owner has the machinery for sale and persons in RSA have been contacted to standby to go recover them. I guess the attach angles have become corroded whilst standing in the long grass, the birds are are as good as dead. Shame on JVM.

SAF
 

Attach angles "have got corroded" first, where did you learn English and second what are attach angles on a DC-3? If anything "got corroded" it's your brain.

JM
 

JM you ignorance is astoundingly familiar, the attach angles are the devices that hold the wings on my dear skelum. Infact the DC-3 is one of the few aircraft that uses this system, another is the Navion, if I remember correctly. They are far more important than English grammar when discussing DC-3's. Please continue to correct my English grammar, and I will continue to push back the barriers of your ignorance regarding the DC-3, it's correct operation, construction and maintenance. Oh!! and while I am at it maybe I can give you some pointers on how to treat fellow human beings.

DC-3
 

First, this is not "JM"...... On a DC-3 the outter wing panels are attached to the Center Wing Section Attachment Flanges. I have read your posts and you seem to be a self proclaimed expert on just about everything and I seriously doubt you do anything more than sit in front of a computer and wouldn't know how to run a hot dog stand.

Well you got that right, I would not know how to run a hot dog stand. As for DC-3 Knowledge, experience, and skill I will put you in my pocket any day, a proclaimation I guess. You would like to challenge me?

JM Take note
 

262
15/03/1963
Structure – Centre and outer wings – Inspection and replacement of upper and lower attach angles and doublers
Initially embodied at 10252.05 on 17/11/1988, re-inspected and X-rayed at Check V (12 000 hr inspection)
10252.05
18252.05
262 (Reissue no 1)
14/06/1963
Structure – Centre and outer wings – Inspection and replacement of upper and lower attach angles and doublers
Initially embodied at 10252.05 on 17/11/1988, re-inspected and X-rayed at Check V (12 000 hr inspection)
10252.05
18252.05
262 (Rev 3)
09/02/1970
Structure – Centre and outer wings – Inspection and replacement of upper and lower attach angles and doublers
Initially embodied at 10252.05 on 17/11/1988, re-inspected and X-rayed at Check V (12 000 hr inspection)
10252.05
18252.05

Wit gevar
 

I just found out who is new mechanic at Indigo :D I hope he knows his flanges from his angles.

Holy crap!!!! dont tell me its Giuseppi the Jordanian:ooh::ooh::ooh::ooh::ooh:

Yessir one and the same. I heard he had enough of KIN, or they had enough of him and he is seeking new horizons as a new Wit Gevar.
He will climb into that machine with gusto and then wont get paid. Surely he checked up before he went there?

Well, it is not a matter of if, it is a matter of when indigo will bite the dust. With the people that they have it seems amazing that anything works. According to the "mental judge" or "judge mental" the DC-3 does not have attach angles, (which it does). Maybe you need to take some lessons before challenging some of the greatest round engine engineers in the world.

The Jordanian mechanic would do well to check what the former employees have to say about the goings on at Indigo, he knows most of them personally.

Dar Gripper
 

As a matter of fact I do know some of the best round engine mechanics, but unlike you clowns they actually have meaningful jobs and are too busy working to have time to write posts trying to convince others that they are "great".... Get a life! If you have all the answers and know some other company is doomed for failure go start your own airline and show us all how it is done! then we all can learn from you. In the mean time no one wants to hear your constant moaning and wailing and how you were so mistreated. If you feel someone is about to make a poor career choice you can hire them for your airline and life will be so good for everyone.

Judged mental
 

Okay so you know some good mechanics I challenge you to name one of them. You can PM me okay.

SAF
 

I'll decline any more posts thank you......a wise man once told me " Don't wrestle with pigs, you both get dirty but the pigs love it.

My grandfather told me, "dont claim to be something you are not, you will be caught out."

I have only been A and C rated on the DC-3/C47 since 1988, so therefor do not consider myself an expert, but can confirm that the aircraft does have attachment angles, and you sir, should take your head out of your ass!!!!!

LJP well said bro!

JM or the absence of
 

So you say you are not 'JM' which is the initials to your name 'Judge Mental', I mean, you did refer to 'Siguarda al fine' as 'SAF' so shirley you know about abbreviations. So tell us, who are you? your post leads me to believe your real initials are also 'JM'.

At any rate it is irrelevant, because you should not stick up for a company like this unless you have something to lose that is associated with the company closing, so either way you are a member of the opposing team. Since you are declining to post anymore, it will create less clutter on this thread, and let more of the truth to present itself.

Indigo Aviation is finished.
 

I saw a picture of 5H-DAK, looks really bad, the blue paint has faded away just like the company has. Signs also show that rust has taken it over. Indigo is finished! the company has lost all respect by the ex-pilots and staff and of the customer. My final word is that JM is a despicable man a crook and a bully of which are all indisputable. Stay away people do not be fools.

...Toasted.........
 

....Judge...I think u are toasted..... seems ur mental judgment finally gave way to some wisdom too.....else u wud still be cluttering this thread...well done.....wish companies like yours also stop cluttering our skies....Toasted!!!