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Is it practical for a non-low timer to get a work permit for Kenya? cliff KGRB |
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Everything is possible in Kenya. Certainly if you bring money to Bribe.
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Is it practical for a non-low timer to get a work permit for Kenya? Before you even think about a "work permit" in Kenya, I hope you either have some powerful friends somewhere in the government, or you know a few rich and influential people in the Kenyan economy. If you have neither of the two options, then forget about Kenya right now. If you do, then ask yourself if you really want to put up with that :mad: , because it will more often than not drive you mad. I suggest you go to Wilson airport for a few days, and talk to a few companies there. And then also go to the KCAA at Jomo Kenyatta airport, and try to have a talk with those monkeys running it. What you will experience there, is generally what's in store for you if you were to work in Kenya. :\ |
I like to hear all that .You don't like it ...stay away ...simple .:mad:
So , the rest of us who actually enjoy the country , (by birth or otherwise )have a chance .Kcaa isn't even that bad these days , come on . As for work permits , if a company wants you , they'll get you one .It's that simple . Oh , and flying and living in Kenya beats the hell out of a lot of places ...especially up north .:{ |
Kenya and all it's downfalls
BOY'S Boy's lets not get off track on this post, create another one to air your grievances. :ugh::D
Leave this one alone for some good information. |
Perceval, actually I was being sarcastic. KCAA is as terrible as always.
Despite having lived and worked in Kenya for nearly 20 years, I can just say that the best times are long over. :sad: Getting a work-permit cannot be done by your would-be hiring company either, because the decision is not up to them but to the guys in Nyayo-house. And they don't care about who or what, they just want to see an envelope full of banknotes. :\ That's all. The corrupt pile of :mad: called "KCAA" is just one thing. But flying junk-aircraft in and out of dangerously neglected airports, absolutely zero-safety standards, disorganized chaos everywhere, as well as the fact that NOTHING ever gets better... just go read the thread called "You know you're flying in Africa..." - it sums it up in a humorous way. Yeah, I enjoy(ed) Kenya very much too, while having lived there. It's still a great place for a holiday even today. But if you work there, you need a lot of patience and strong nerves. If you need a flying-job, it's definitely the wrong place to look. There are still other places where you can try. |
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Nightfire sure knows what he's talking about ! He's 100% right. |
20 years to respond??
Nightlife?? It took you along time to make the judgement that kenya was a ****hole???? Sorry for guys like you who came to take advantage of the colonial mess.
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KENYA A ****HOLE???:sad: :=
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mwaurak, the fact that you misspelled my username, when you adressed me with your stupid remark, shows that you also didn't read my post properly.
So for simple minds like yours, let me make it clear: I was talking about the KCAA, in a wider scale about the government. I thought I made that clear, but perhaps it needs some more explaining. Kenya is definitely not a s...hole. No way! I loved that country while I lived there, and it hurts to see how it all decays due to the greed and selfishness of a corrupt mafia, due to incompetence and ignorance on all levels. Sorry to say that it is noone but the Kenyan government itself who is taking advantage of, and is responsible for, the current mess. Ask any non-KALPA pilot, see what they tell you. Talk to anybody in the Aero Club or to any aircraft-operating company at Wilson airport, and listen to their experiences. I don't understand why you associate this filthy mess on ex-colonialism. Actually, I'm not interested either, nor is anybody else in this forum, I believe. The question in this thread (post #42) was, if Kenya is a good place for an experienced pilot to look for a job. The answer is: No. Is the country beautiful? Do you make friends easily? Can you go out and party nicely in Nairobi? Is it worth going there for a holiday? Answer to all that: Yes. Just unfortunately not the point of this discussion. |
Good post nightfire :)
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So long as you have initiative and a couple of US$100s you can get a work permit. I got mine in Kenya in 3 days back in 1994 by slipping an Immigration guy a Time magazine containing US$300 in a car park down the road from his office. Probably still the same today but the price might be higher...give it a go, they can only say "No" or "I want more money!"
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broderii
thanks for helping so much the continuation of the bribing system.:confused: |
Don't blame broderii - he's only doing what he has to do.
There is no other way to get ANYTHING done in Kenya otherwise. Broderii was only trying to help with his advice. |
Nightfire. My point was simple and please dont reply with your nonsense wanna be tough remarks. Whether your talking about KCAA or corruption in kenya.
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Mwaurak, I'm neither interested in your discriminating "point", nor in any personal remarks from you.
Back to the thread: I found another interesting article on OneJetOne in another forum. Unfortunately, I cannot put a direct link in here, because pprune doesn't allow linking to a bl0g. However, describing how to find the link is not in breach of policies. So please, remove the three underline-symbols (_), then cut and paste into your browser's address-bar: ht_tp://coldtusker.blo_gs_pot.com/2009/03/kenya-airports-authority-coldtusker.html |
Finally...
Am told a set of Open Days is scheduled for sometime this week...Any buddy thats gotta clue where & when that is gonna happen??
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I believe if you are shortlisted you will be invited personally.
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Bookings
Hey guys, when do you think is the most appropriate time for Onejetone to open its online booking system given the fact that its set to launch in late September/early October?
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Thank you Nightfire...its pilots like him if indeed he's one...that cause accidents and incidents since they assume too much or don't read correctly or probably comprehend what's before hand.
Mwaurak...please...don't make mistakes like this while flying especially in IMC. what're you gonna do next?...head on a 001 heading instead of 100 when ATC calls for it?! |
The guy in the interview, the CEO, was managing a radio station in Nairobi earlier..I had an interview with them once, and general chit-chat led him to say that AirAsia is setting up an airline service in Africa..this is it, i'm assuming..AirAsia is a share-holder, and from that, i'm assuming that they might use the A320 fleet?
the CEO is actually a Sri Lankan guy, Arjun Ruzaik.. |
I met with the CEO for a chit chat back in Jan, and I thought they were supposed to start the actual pilot interviews in april/may. Its been so quite though lately, especially since that whole Embakasi bid was taken away. And then I heard that the CEO had a heart attack! But I don't know if that is true?
Does anyone know what the latest is? |
Hi!
So the bid so this new airline can develop and use the other airport, has been cancelled? I am flying out of NBO, and it is very crowded, and badly needs expansion. THe current expansion is too late, and not enough expansion, but it WILL help! cliff NBO |
Im not sure of the heart attack story, seeing as i decided to mail th CEO, and got a reply today via facebook!
im assuming its all just rumours..from the way i've seen rumours and other things developing, im assuming the airline will take more time then needed to settle and begin operations..it is, after all, KENYA! au sivyo? |
Jambo's
Yes there is news, just check your email.:cool: |
hmmmm, anyone got a positive email?
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Are they still set to start operating in Sept/Oct? It still says so on the website, but no bookings is open yet, just saying that initially flying to Johannesburg and London using A320 and A330? Has aircraft been sourced yet?
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What's the link with AirAsia? Do they own it? I've seen elsewhere that they are only associated?
Anyone know what's the story? |
All quiet on this front...
Salaams everyone - I have been away and out of the loop for a while. Any more news on OJO?:confused:
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hmm.... lots of ex pats flying in Kenya. Actually real easy...
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After waiting and waiting and waiting.Its official that OJO just exists as a Facebook Airline Company..
They have just opened up a kiosk in Jomo Kenyatta Airport i am not sure if it is an office or they have given up and now embarking on selling candy and airtime vouchers at the little kiosk they have opened. They claim to have employed 50 pilots,I know plenty of pilots in Nairobi None has been recruited or knows someone who knows some who knows someone that has been recruited. If they are still planning to start in march i guess there would be pilots who have already been sent to the sim,None yet so far... The CEO has tried to start up Srilanka and failed. Bottom line is they are in competition as who has the biggest fanbase on facebook. Never trust a company that recruits on face book. |
My take is this was just another big scam that was starting in Kenya. They wanted to take over the old airport terminal, make it the new local domestic terminal then lease it back to KAA even before they start the airline! Kenya Airways and other players cried foul and I guess the scam artists withdrew back to the strategy room for a while,......now a very long while. This was not an airline but a company that wanted to get into the airport business like BAA in the UK but through the back door. Will however buy some candy at the kiosk next time I'm in Nairobi:O
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I heard they are looking to launch soon, but I haven’t heard of anyone being interviewed for the positions, and where are they getting A320 Pilots from, Kenya is predominantly a Boeing country. I have a feeling that most of their Pilots will be from India as there are lot of A320 rated Indian Pilots out there, and they wouldn’t be as expensive to hire as European expats. However they having been ‘coming soon’ for a long time now, what could possibly be the hold up, can’t see there being any problem acquiring A320’s as there are a lot out there in storage.
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Just Wondering.....
Has anyone had anytging from OJO? Its been kinda dormant(somehow).
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Just read that the current crisis pushed back their start-up by at least two years. What was the initial plan? 2009?
An Interview With Mr. Arjun Ruzaik, Chief Executive Officer of OneJetOne |
Hi guys,
I just wanted to bring to light a few facts about OJO this has been after extensive investigations Fact 1 currently OJO only hold an Airservice licence they still dont have an air operators certificate. They recently renewed their Airservice licence and they only have a few months to come up with an AOC or else the aplication will be null and void. Fact 2 OJO will not be able to operate international routes up until one year of operation that means they will be limited to flying between mombasa and Nairobi for one year,before they are approved to fly international. Fact 3 There are no records whatsoever at the KCAA to show that they have secured a single aircraft forget about the crew training. |
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