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theloveman72 18th Jun 2008 01:24

Luanda Airport and hell...
 
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Solid Rust Twotter 18th Jun 2008 05:23

First time in Africa then...?:E

Skippie 18th Jun 2008 06:19

TIA.......(This is Africa)
 
They call it AFRICA MENTALITY...........:ugh::ugh::ugh:

Shrike200 18th Jun 2008 06:24

Well, points for consistency (consistently idiotic at least) - it hasn't changed over the last four years then....

Your perfectly logical point about presidential idiocy, money, fixing NAV aids etc is irrelevant, because this is Africa.

flyhardmo 18th Jun 2008 09:32

This thing happens all over west africa. You'll soon start to carry extra fuel for the wife and kids. :}

Revnetwork 18th Jun 2008 10:40

Why does every tin-pot African leader do this? George W Bush closes airports everywhere he goes, but at least he is the Leader of the "free world".

congoman 18th Jun 2008 11:33


George W Bush closes airports everywhere he goes, but at least he is the Leader of the "free world".
Not true - I flew out of Heathrow when Bush was there and the airport remained open. Likewise when the British PM travels, Heathrow doesn't close.
Unlike in Africa where the problem is twofold. 1) African leaders have an inflated opinion of their importance in the world and 2) They don't give a rats @#$% about who they inconveniance, the financial cost, or how their actions impact on flight safety.
These little tin pot dictators seemingly have no concept of how stupid their actions appear to the civilised world.
The concept of 'embarassment' for ones idiotic actions or utterances doesn't seem to feature in African culture. Why is that?

sanctionedagain 18th Jun 2008 15:05

The problem for these dictators is that very few of them are actually elected and thus fear for their lives and so proceed to close off every highway within a 20 mile radius of their convoy and the airport. They must sleep very well at night knowing that the population adores them!!! Oh no wait, they don't give a rats ass, cause the only people they think about are themselves.The worst I ever saw was Sam Nojomo at a small little airfield in Namibia. He must have had a convoy of about 20 black mercs preceded and followed by I don't know how many Gun laden pick ups. I must emphasise that this was a little airfield in the middle of nowhere.

Forget logic on this continent. Just look at SA. There the "people" voted for a corrupt, philandering rapist who takes a shower to cure the AIDS after sex as their next party president!

SoWhereToNow 18th Jun 2008 16:30

Luanda
 
The best thing about operating out of Luanda as always is V1 and hope you don't lose a donkey!

theloveman72 18th Jun 2008 18:16

not the first time..
 
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snotneus 18th Jun 2008 18:29

What most people don't know is that these african state presidents all learned their habits of closing the airport 30 min before dep until airborne, from the british rulers during colonial times.
Granted the movements were not quite the same, and holding a piston vs a jet uses way more fuel.

Now if we can only un-learn them something.
Atleast mdeki hasn't picked up on that trick!

flux 18th Jun 2008 20:22

Povlov comes to mind

Insane 19th Jun 2008 09:13

In Harare, 3 a/c put in hold, by app, at the same time at the same alt (below MSA) due to VIP traffic??? :mad:

By the way did I mention ZS reg a/c low on fuel trying to land at the same time??:confused:

Xtra 19th Jun 2008 11:37

Aha, well then.......nothing has changed since 1995.... Eish.

Skylion 19th Jun 2008 11:41

Snotneus- That's rubbish about the British colonials. They did not close airports for VIP movements. There were no VIP aircraft and Governors travelled on scheduled flights or the occasional DC 3 type domestic charter with the minimum of formality.

deeceethree 21st Jun 2008 00:34

congoman,

I flew out of Heathrow (my home base) a few days ago and ALL traffic on the ground was stopped from moving for nearly an hour until Air Force One and its chimp of a passenger ('Jawge Dubbya Bush') had actually landed and shutdown. Bush, too, is a tin-pot dictator who rigged the elections to get into the ****ehou ......., sorry, Whitehouse, like most African despots.

VAFFPAX 21st Jun 2008 15:53

I think airports being shut down is a mark of a dictator :-)

Who cares about the SLF and the freight dogs with deadlines... I AM THE PRESIDENT *said in a bad accent* :-)

Someone else expressed a lot of surprise that certain European countries send their senior officials on scheduled flights in F or C and I know that one of the African royals caused a stink on an AF flight nine years ago because they demanded to fly in F or C and all people with those tickets got bumped.

It's not unusual.

S.

congoman 21st Jun 2008 16:31

deeceethree

Virtually ALL politicians are scumbags INMHO. But at least George dubja has a functional economy. More than what can be said for Mugabe's Zimbabwe and many other countries in Africa isn't it? :yuk: And maybe Heathrow delayed a few departures but how many aircraft were refused to land? Much safer having a delay on the ground than in the air! :ok:
When last did you chew your fingernails in the hold over Harare, Gaberones, Luanda, Lusaka, Maputo or Entebe? Over the years I've sat in the hold over all of them, waiting for some banana republic goon while he waves goodbye to his "rent a crowd."
Democracy isn't perfect but at least in the west and in europe there's an electorate that gets rid of bad performers - unlike in Africa where they consistantly vote them back in. :uhoh:
Viva democracy viva! but only God will remove me from power...

deeceethree 21st Jun 2008 18:40

Congoman,

Whilst I might be at LHR now, I was born and raised in the wilds of Africa and have experience of flying around some of the s4iteholes you mention .....:rolleyes:

congoman 21st Jun 2008 21:07

Well then, you would know that an African Tin Pot Dictator is in a vastly different league to dictators in other parts of the world. A fact that I doubt the die-hard liberals of the world realised a few years ago. Hope they're happy now...:yuk:


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