Suitcaseman, agreed it was an accident. BUT, when an incident like this happens it raises a lot of unanswered questions and then I say post away! I know the relevant F/O and also know he is a more than capable pilot. When a Captain has the history this one seems to have then questions need to be asked. Apparently she was suspended for slapping a hostie, got into frequent, seemingly unreasonable arguments, with Flight Despatchers, had a go at a Technician for his joke regarding women drivers, blamed her F/O for the "mistake", etc. The basic foundation of a healthy psyche, according to the first handbook in studying psychology, is the ability to accept responsibility, and the consequences of, one's own actions! The question is, had you or I had this record and then screwed the pooch, would we still be employed? Would we have got through the psychometrics with this type of behaviour or personality disorder? Is the process of "fast tracking" certain races and sexes to satisfy political masters now biting SAA in the backside? Must people die before the obvious flaws are taken seriously? Just some questions to think about. Answer away!

Jamex
 

Why was this kind of scrutiny and criticism not afforded to the drivers of the Emirates 777 who ended up in a very similar scenario not so long before the one you currently lambast, see the middle east threads.

Why was such scrutiny and criticism not given to the incident at SAA when a 742 scraped its tail on takeoff (with substantial damage) all at the hands of very senior pale and male pilots.

Lets be fair here guys...do we have all the facts. Or are we simply attacking the said individual because of her minority status?

Nope, just attacking SAA and its Establishment!

Very very well said, Jamex!! :ok:

Everyone can and will make a mistake
 

Slightly off track here but interesting anyway. Just shows everyone including the best can make a c:mad:k up. Has anyone seen the pictures if the Etihad A340 a few days before delivery hung over the engine run-up bay wall with the cockpit lying on the otherside.

Anyone can :mad: it,I hope it is not me next.
Fly safe guys (that includes the girls)

Easy, they are not fast track, jumped up drivers who go around slapping others, shouting their mouths off, and they are not involved in all sorts of "incidents"

See above answer!

So it’s a personal vendetta then?

All the opinions and mud slinging with no happy ending?

What was the final result, if any, for us out there in the wild?

I had the option of making turn-off in CPT yesterday but it would have required a very sharp turn close to the rwy/taxiway intersection. I thought of the above incident and chose to swallow my pride (with very hot brakes), take power and go off at the next exit. I like to think I learnt from someone elses mistake. Is this not the tradition of a very fine proffession?

This incident proves that the flight deck is no place for arrogance & bad attitude's. As history has shown such behavior will more often than not leave you "in the dirt" so to speak. The problem with the current system is that it is problematic to purge bad apples when the rap sheet is not quite long enough.

Good to know someone benefitted from the incident. That is a good enough ending for me. The rest was probably sorted in-house and none of our business.
Cheers,
T