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Icarus208 2nd Apr 2007 18:04

Cemair, any info on new company?
 
Does anybody have any info on a new company started in Lanseria. They operate as Cemair? Living conditions, where are their contracts? And what about pay?

What type of aeroplanes do they operate? :ok:

LittleMo 4th Apr 2007 16:09

I stand to be corrected but isn't that the infamous Miles van der Mollen under a new guise? I believe they are B1900's owned by Cemcrete. Apparently the chief pilot there is old 'T-Bone' if any of you guys remember him...

pyote 7th Apr 2007 08:13

Yea
 
Miles is the man over there... Dont know much about them...

Avi8tor 7th Apr 2007 15:21

Miles?
 
Is he out of jail? Thought he was put away over the last little mess he had?

Icarus208 7th Apr 2007 15:50

What kinda mess? Please tell!

Avi8tor 7th Apr 2007 16:03

Over loaded
 
Seem to remember a story a few yrs back where he sent a bright young newbe off over gross etc, ppl were killed out of Rand. Seem to remember it being a chieftain with 9 pax and fuel to go far. Also remember a court case and homicide charges. Think he was found guilty.

Dont quote me, but think i am right.

Wish the CAA would go after all the companys that send young guys off outside the limits, sadly its only when ppl get killed.

Icarus208 7th Apr 2007 16:10

Oh yes...I remember that one. Yes it was a Chieftain with lots of corporate clients on board and the one engine packed up and couldnt maintain and apparantly went inverted...so it was said in the accident findings..

Thanks for that...Will keep on digging deeper on that one

LittleMo 8th Apr 2007 10:18

He also was involved with that C425 / C441 (can't remember) that crashed taking off on 21R at FAJS a few years ago. Again it was an overloaded a/c with a low hr jock and engine failure after t/o.I seem to remember something being said about timex engine/engines too. You'd think CAA would do something about this guy, like have him shot if he came within 500m of an airport.

mach decimal 83 9th Apr 2007 09:23

Little Mo,also under correction, but I understood that it was a twin van. He was also the owner of Fleetair, who was based out of JIA and who the TWIN Van belonged to, also use to operate C208s and a PC12 at some stage. They did the JNB Eros Cape Town Freight Runs. Lots of horror stories that i've heard from that operation, real fly-by-nights and someone that you should stay FAR and i mean FAR away from. :ugh:

LittleMo 9th Apr 2007 19:25

Correct it was a twin van. Somebody PM'd me and said that the mother of the pilot had Miles charged with Culpable Homicide. Anyone know anything about that or what the outcome was?

forkingfishing 9th Apr 2007 20:36

Those accidents were all very very tragic, I remember Hein Janick was on board that 406 when it went down that night he was catching a ride with the guys back to WHK. sad memories. I am not too sure though about the outcome regarding the court cases with the operating crew of that flight. Would be very interesting to know though.

Contains Nuts 9th Apr 2007 21:15

Icarus208

I know nothing of Miles' past, but for Cemair I know that they operate:

1xC404, 2xC208, 4xB1900C.

Charters out of Lanseria, have some aircraft on contract where Cemair pilots are supplied and others with local pilots.

cforty7 10th Apr 2007 06:16

Miles: Steer clear...
 
Hi all.

I've done some freelance flying for that man a couple of years ago. Always a fight. If you can't fly over gross, you're out. The old charter motto.....

Unfortunately he killed 2 pilots and lots of other pax.

The Chieftan out of Rand was JD Heyns. 2nd failure in an overgross plane. :ugh: First time was luckily in a C404. Didn't maintain - water in fuel, but with heaps of luck got the donkey back just before impact and landed safely.

The C406 at Smuts was Eduard Davey. Brilliant pilot, but the old thing, fly overgross or piss off. Engines was way over timex - something like 1000 hrs. :yuk:

Can't complain though. We all did it to get hours.:\

Some people just keep on getting away with killing people while better ones like Nelair gets stopped.:D Well done CAA:ok:

Wonder about that ICAO inspection then............

sslut 20th Apr 2007 15:37

Go check if all the A/C are on an AOC, I know some of them aren't. If you don't like illegal stuff then stay away.

WhinerLiner 21st Apr 2007 07:54

Ramp Inspection
 
Dunno about that. Their machine got a ramp inspection at LA on Wednesday and departed shortly thereafter, so the paperwork must have been okay.

Difficult to operate out of a place like FALA if you don't have your ducks in a row. Operators take great pleasure in stiffing each other in that place.

Foxyflyer 21st Apr 2007 07:56

No AOC eh :eek: Interesting

sslut 21st Apr 2007 15:07

What about OLG? Would be nice to know who's AOC its on

Cradock 24th Apr 2007 17:50

Interesting how experiences vary. Also did some work there about 5 years ago. Tripkit paperwork and compliance rigorous and no problem re sorting out problems. Its also interesting how people who are trained and paid as decision makers are also able to act like such victims - "can't complain though, we all did it to get hours".
Have your cake and eat it fella!!
Just checked CAA accident report re the 406 at FAJS and the pilot was ATP, 1000 hours and probable cause was unsecured cargo compounded by 16% overgross. Engines 185 hrs, not 1000 over.

TermightJim 24th Apr 2007 18:10

Sslut you raise an interesting point. Whos AOC is it on anyway? And also heard it is operating illegally in Sudan if thats correct? Something to do with no anti or deice equipment.:=

WhinerLiner 24th Apr 2007 19:08

It flies out of FALA about 5 times a week.

Ice in Sudan? Ever been there?!?
Hang on to yer kilt! Blizards a comin', AAARRRGGGGGGG...........!!!


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