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femialpha 22nd Nov 2005 13:06

Hopefully, this project will buck the trend and be completed in time! Any ideas from our Nigerian based buddies if this project has actually taken off?

skygod 23rd Nov 2005 17:40

Blue tail
 
Best equipment in my opinion for blue tail the B737-400. This is putting into account Airline economics. easier conversions for all blue tails pilots (1 week) most engrs have the 3/4/5 type,and of course the CFM 56, 1 of the most reliable engines ever built. We all wanna fly A-320's but look the financial overview its much more expensive to train all the pilots/ engr/ cabin crew all over again for at least 4 weeks. wishing blue tail all the bes...t


skygod
zazzo welcome !!!!!

ZAZOO 12th Dec 2005 16:40

Looks like the latest aircraft to join the Bluetail Fleet is about to touchdown in Abuja any moment from now.

Gather the crew already in Abuja for the last week preparing for operations. News is that the airplane will be based in Abuja.

Kudos to Bluetail and keep this spirit going :cool:

Anyone with news on the Airbuses!!!

Zazoo

Wats up SkyGod we having a drink soon or what:ok: owe you a few pints :}

HappyPilot 12th Dec 2005 16:54

Zazoo,

what aircraft is it mate? Make and model please if you know. Cheers.

HP

NIJASEA 15th Dec 2005 14:39

Gentlemen,
Great to hear Blue Tail is getting new gear we need to be looking forward in the country....:ok:
I have a couple of querries on the issue that hopefully someone can answer.. 1) where will the finance come to maintain the aircraft?
2) operators are crying the fares are too low where will the money come from to pay the lease?
3) what ratio of Aircraft to Crew will be used this time on an advanced fleet ( coz tired crew can make mistakes on inputing info into the FMS..... Garbage in garbage out)...

I would like to point out with no disrespect to anyone that the first thing to suffer in this situation is generally maintainance and i believe try as an operator wants there have to be sacrifices on the part of the budget as no one runs a charity airline in Nigeria.

I wish Blue Tail a GREAT future and may they always FLY with a tail wind.:cool:

abujaflyer 21st Dec 2005 08:03

Bellview Grounded
 
Local radio have announced that Bellview has had their operating licence withdrawn. Now it is only Virgin Nigeria and Aero flying. Good to see Mr President taking such decisive action.

Rani 21st Dec 2005 08:40

IMO The Presidents actions (and immature shouting, slapping, and disrespecting of people) on NTA last week only shows this man's true colours. He is simply incapabable of understanding that an industry as critical as aviation needs high calibre individuals with technical background to run it safely, let alone efficiently.

By grounding Bellview, he is making a big, unjustifiable goof. Where is the proof that Bellview failed to maintain its fleet properly?

The Nigerian economy is now paralyzed, Virgin and Aero do not serve over 10 other secondary airports. Besides one of Virgin's A320s is grounded and there is no relief in sight for the thousands of intending passengers!

The right action was necessary from the onset: relieving the minister of aviation from his duties. Perhaps OBJ was touched by Borishade's tears at the Jesuit church in Abuja. What a fool! :*

jirginsama 21st Dec 2005 08:45

Please what is the implication of this development on bellview's operations as the national carrier of sierra leone? and also its service to india?

I posted this on another thread but didnt get answers!

Rani 21st Dec 2005 08:56

Not sure if Bellview SL uses a Nigerian AOC.

The facts are:

* Bellview local AOC has been suspended.
* Bellview cancelled its London flights, with hundreds of pax stranded at LHR.

"Soups" could verify if their ops at ACC have also been suspended.

Soups, any input?

abujaflyer 21st Dec 2005 10:15

VK flying normal schedule. Have heard that Bellview had 2 other incidents between crash and Accra incident but did not report them. Not exactly the actions of a responsible carrier. Compare that with VK who take an aircraft out of service to ensure proper maintenance.

soups 21st Dec 2005 10:34

Just called ACC airport they said ALL B3 flights are cancelled today

jirginsama 21st Dec 2005 11:35

Bluetail had a golden oppurtunity.Was it badluck or the nigerian factor that has brought bellview down?
Before the lisa crash, nobody imagined that bluetail will become blacktail:sad:

It is now VK versus Aero:zzz:

GlobalFlyer 22nd Dec 2005 12:51

Zazoo,

Is the license revocation and grounding permanent? Were there really 2 incidents that were illegally unreported to the local aviation authorities between the Lisa crash and the Accra incident??

Any update is appreciated.

ZAZOO 22nd Dec 2005 12:53

Hi Happypilot I gather its a -300 ;)

NIJASEA Maybe you should be asking VK the same question eh:p but just to give you a fair answer the Bluetail has a fair amount of pax on the coastal routes and tend to make good income when it comes to plying those routes!

Zazoo

PS: GATHER A SMALL DELAY ON THE ARRIVAL OF THE AIRCRAFT BUT SHOULD BE IN ABUJA THIS WEEKEND AND GUESS WHO WILL BE ON IT!:ok: :ok: :ok:

ZAZOO 22nd Dec 2005 13:13

GlobalFlyer Hi,

The answer on your first question is yes.

About, Were there really 2 incidents that were illegally unreported to the local aviation authorities between the Lisa crash and the Accra incident, well that is not true at all.

I know of one and can confidently tell you that is the only one incident till the Accra scenario, and it happened in Lagos and the machine was grounded by the authorities and later released after undergoing repairs and checks on the B Hydraulic system, we even operated that service with another aircraft that morning, just as we dispatched another aircraft to Accra asap to move the passengers onwards on their journey before we got this notice of revoking bluetails license.

Zazoo

GlobalFlyer 22nd Dec 2005 15:23

So IS BELLVIEW OVER?!?!?!?

skygod 22nd Dec 2005 16:41

Tears go out to Blue Tail
 
Hi guys,
Walked on the ramp the other day, saw all blue tails Airplanes grounded. What a very sad senario to be in. Blue tail will get airborne once again. This time with lots of caution. If not in nigeria then SL. Cant imagine that a hydraulic leak will cause all this trauma 4 Blue tail.
African regional Carrier of the year 2004.
IATA International clearing house.
13 year Accident Free record
13 destinations on the west coast
2 intercontinetal

All that cant go in vain. Wishing BLUE TAIL all the best. BLUE TAIL DOESNT DESERVE ALL THIS.

surely not 22nd Dec 2005 17:38

Now I am totally confused............... there is another thread saying that Bluetail is grounded and had its operating licence revoked, then you are talking of flying a new aircraft type into service???

How can this paradox be?

GlobalFlyer 22nd Dec 2005 17:42

SN:

RIGHT ON !!!!

I do believe, however, that Bellview will go ahead in delivering the -300 with the hope that it will convince the authorities that:

1- Bellview means business
2- The -300 is a "new" plane
3- Bellview maintenance program is acceptable.

Bellview is a major player and the suspension of its AOC is only temporary, at least i hope! Otherwise 800 people are jobless with immediate effect, not to mention the negative multiplyer effect on everyone.

jirginsama 23rd Dec 2005 08:04

the license revocation has been changed to suspension


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