Aero/vk/arik Nigeria
 

Gentlemen,I once predicted that pilots availability will depend on what takes him home vis a vis the current salary/welfare structures in place.Have you all heard that AERO has finally moved in on its supposed competition salaries are not only in dollars but have crossed the 10,000usd mark for captains this is so because they not only want more pilots they have to keep what they have.ARIK is presently at the bottom of this rung no wonder they have become the last chice in the industry,Methinks that considering the amount that is currently been spent on infrastructure and new airplanes,enough i mean a lot still has to be spent on the crew that need to maintain thier standards anyway all roads lead to AERO,VK is constantly reviewing its emoluments and welfare packages which is a good sign however the pace has been set so lets see how the fight will go..........:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :ok:

10k dollars
hmmmm
i seriously doubt this figure and am sure if accurate the whole airport will be in aeros human resources dept

Can this be 4 real?
 

This sounds vlike fiction 2 me.I know this is a rumour network but but this is going 2 far anyway concerning ARIK they will get what they deserve i remember someone said recently IF U PAY PEANUTS YOU,LL END UP WITH MONKEYS. I hope it wont get to that,why do start ups always start with some discriminatory tendencies i hear if you want to get well paid in A..K you may need to apply from wherever but not naija to get very juicy pay.11tons usd to be exact na wa o.Hope is not lost, we are watching and we shall not change our NATIONALITY 4 Bread...:mad: :ok: :{

Can this be 4 real?
 

This sounds very much like fiction 2 me.I know this is a rumour network but this is going 2 far anyway concerning ARIK they will get what they deserve i remember someone said recently IF U PAY PEANUTS YOU,LL END UP WITH MONKEYS. I hope it wont get to that,why do start ups always start with some discriminatory tendencies i hear if you want to get well paid in A..K you may need to apply from wherever but not naija to get very juicy pay.11tons usd to be exact na wa o.Hope is not lost, we are watching and we shall not change our dermis and NATIONALITY 4 Bread...:mad: :ok: :{

I heard F/Os now take close to $5K a month after tax in Aero. I heard its about the same in Bellview and that the pay has just been jacked up. Heard its about N420,000 ($3K) in VK after tax is. I also heard everything is taxed in VK, heard the pilots are even taxed for taking a leak :}. About N320,000 ($2.3K) in Arik for the CRJ drivers. Different pay scale exist for the B733, N420,000 ($3k), but the tax is much better.
Arik I believe are offering $10K for captains and $6K for F/O for the B733 drivers (non Nigerians that is. I guess they fly it better than Nigerians). They will also provide accomadations for non Nigerians, for more information check and contact www.avionco.com
The ARIK pilot are assessed by GECAT (UK), the same company that did VK pilots assessments. I dont think VK pilots are monkeys, so Arik pilots shouldn't be.

Oba Idan Amani

i spoke to a guy in spain,i guess he is one of the guys coming to fly for arik as a captain,they offered him $11tons and accomodation and also 2 months on,one month off.Can u image that,while the naija captains are on $4500 a month,and one month off in a year....... na wa o.i think all roads leads to AERO.:ok:

I CAN AUTHORITATIVELY SAY YOUR FIGURES ARE VERY WRONG,FOR AERO AND VK AND BLUETAIL YOUR SOURCES ARE NOT TELLING YOU THE TRUTH, TELL THEM TO BRING THIER BANK STATEMENTS VK IS HIGHER AERO IS LOWER AND BLUETAIL IS LOWER THAN FIGURES QUOTED

GIST
 

You need to get into this outfits to know the real truth about welfare packages et al,guys are never really forthcoming with the truth,these coys are all still recruiting; take the plunge and enjoy the benefits therein,Bread;- Is good consideration but not everything;its definitely a good starting point u might also try buying some skin toning creams,you can neva tell it might increase your prospects of more Bread:D :O :O:D

18left,
If you can "AUTHORITATIVELY SAY YOUR FIGURES ARE VERY WRONG", why not quote the actual figures ? :confused:

Oba Idan Amani

chachangi roughly $7000 b/4 tax for captains
vk/aero/bluetail roughly $6000-$6500 b/4tax for captains
bristow/mobil roughly $8000-$8500 b/4 tax for captains
arik is offering about $3000 for f/o's
figures may vary dependent on seniority/hours flown/fleet e.t.c

f/o's are noramally 60-70% of captains

So much about dough,why is it no one is hustling to CHACHANGI.According to the last post it should be an airline of choice,GUYS,its all about perception , selfworth,and prospects where do you see yourself in 3yrs.DONT GET ME WRONG.Its the total package that tells the whole story:confused:

I would bet that in 3 years, the chances of Chanchangi still being around are very slim. IMO VK, Arik, Bellview, Aero, and maybe ADC have better prospects as an employer. Chanchangi is still a tokunbo carrier showing no signs of evolving.

Tokunbo Carrier
 

Is that not rather harsh a statement to make about CHACHANGI methinks a glorified AGBERO TRAVEL AGENCY is more appropriate.No offence :{ :{

Glorified T.a
 

We all have friends that work for this outfit and would not find it funny if they find out that thier esteemed airline is being refered to as TOKUNBO TRAVEL AGENCIES.As long as the TOKUNBO aeroplanes are in good condition i dont think they should worry however their mgt i understand is not really different from the trailer consortium the so called investor also owns,The company is basically a holding company for JATAIRLINES a Yugoslav concern using Naijas to further thier nest and provide jobs for their likes=STILL TOKUNBO-Ibeg to agree oopppps:uhoh: :uhoh:

i really dont think vk crew will leave for arik, its the other way around, ariks pay is ****..............i know for a fact that arik will be a training ground for pilots,mostly on the 737-3, the guys will leave for vk or aero.dont blame the guys.all road leads to aero for now.:ok:

Beware Avionco/Arik Air---Strongest terms
 

Avionco is a rip off. they still owe me over $5000 USD. Other Pilots in Lagos were also ripped off. They do not put you up at the Sheraton Lagos...You do not want to stay anywhere else! Too dangerous! I had to jump seat home.
They are slow to pay if they do pay, and the promised ticket home for holiday/leave periods are either slow coming or do not appear at all. Please call or email if you have any questions.
The Nigerian pilots will reluctantly let you fly right seat after they check your qualifications and haze you for a month. Hey, my fellow Americans, how about we lobby our government to prevent foreign pilots from working in the U.S.?
Or, we could hassle them like the Saudis and Nigerians, after they invite you there.:mad:. Maybe we could train only Americans at our flight training facilities. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.....

For Real'
 

HMN HMN HMN, THE BEAT GOES ON ,DOES THIS SITUATION STILL EXIST,I DONT WANT TO BELIEVE SO HMN HMN HMN:confused: LEST I SAY MORE.:sad:

:ugh::ugh:

Guys,

What I know:

VK --> their 767's (Lithuanian) and F50 (Dutch) are leased incl. crew, so they dont pay those crew.

Arik--> same story on the F50 and Dash8 (both Dutch) so tey dont pay those crew also.

Most Nigerian airlines are starting to work with contractors (avianco, brookfield etc.) And they don't pay that kind of amounts.

But please think if they realy would pay 10.000 US DOLLAR á month.. Hell everybody was willing to fly...

I think it just remours and that when your 10 years with oneof those airlines working 24/7 then you would make 10.000.

mgustavson2,
You know, it's statements like yours that provoke a riot?:ugh:
I take it that you want to take the national role of "we americans", eh?
Well, here's some news. If you stopped evreyone, like you're already doing, from entering the United States, i bet you lot would be broke and a third world nation in ten years tops!:rolleyes:
You guys enjoy stirring up trouble, don't you? You're in Iraq looking for oil in the name of ICBM's, killing innocent kids, mothers, uncles, cousins etc.
Your country is broke as hell! Bill Clinton tried to bring you guys out, but NO! He's playing with chicks, impeach him! That was more important. You take one day forward and ten years back.:D
Keep your Flying to yourselves! Simulators and airplanes must be sold. Boeing dies, and there goes your economy. We'll have to give you aid eventually!
Currently, Boeing is singing Nigeria's praises cos they're getting the much needed business from it.
By the way, what the hell were you doing all the way out there in AFRICA? Long way from home i presume? I'm sure you don't see Nigerian pilot's in the U.S. looking for work, do you?:=
Lock your doors mate! You'll open them yourselves eventually, just to eat!
Cheers.:ok:

LJT,

Normally I agree on your statements, I as non-Nigerian, but this time you react a bit over the top!

Nigeria needs expats... sorry but you need to agree on that!

But the expats need to no that Nigeria can do without them... that's the differnce..

Expats who want to come are welcome, if you don't want to come, dont do it... and if you want to leave ---> leave...

Cheers..