COCK PIT DOOR POLICY
WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IS THE COCKPIT DOOR POLICY IN SOUTH AFRICA.
SHOULD THE DOOR BE CLOSED AND LOCKED DURNIG THE FLIGHT? SHOULD ALL COM WITH CABIN CREW BE THRU THE INTERCOM? IS THERE A CAA RULE IN REGARDS TO THIS? REGARDS |
Every company prescribes it's own policy. Door should be locked during flight unless food is served to the cockpit, or the crew has to go to the toilet etc. In case of an emergency it might be fully opened to facilitate comms with cockpit/cabin crew. Other companies might be more relaxed.
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SAA has a locked cockpit policy. Locked from startup to shut down. All the aircraft doors are reinforced.
Other airlines are more relaxed in this regard. |
Good thing too, if you have been following the news today...
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Originally Posted by saywhat
Locked from startup to shut down.
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Please folks, no more of this on public forums. Whilst procedures should be designed to retain effectiveness even if details are known, it certainly doesn't enhance the safety and security of our colleagues & passengers.
Coincidentally, for those who think this is a little harsh...(as APPR ARM alludes to) http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=231049 :ugh::mad: |
I think that althought the bulletproof locked door on SAA is a good idea, lets be honest, if one was a hijacker, the best time to storm the cockpit would be when the cabin crew bring us our drinks/food. How easy it would be to pull the hostie out the way, and then once the hijacker is inside the cockpit, no one can then enter to help, even if they want to. Bit scary I would say! The best part is no dangerous weapons are required. Who are the cockpit to know the hijacker doesn't have a bomb on board?
The bottom line is that if they want to get in, they will. A cockpit actually needs two doors, like they have in banks. If security is going to be taken seriously, this is what they need to do. |
Beats me why everyone gets upset about locked doors - there are other ways to hi-jack an a/c without having to go into the cockpit - all you have to do is grab a cabin attendant and hold them to ransom somewhere in the a/c.
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I don't fly in Africa, so I shan't dwell on your forum any longer, but COME ON!!! This is surely not suitable material for public discussion, regardless of credibility, or whether we chat about this sort of thing in the bar!
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THANKS FOR INFO
TO ALL
THANK YOU FOR ALL THE INFO. AS IAM THE SAFETY OFFICER , I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO ENFORCE THE LOCKED DOOR POLICY IN OUR AIRLINE. BUT SOME OF THE CREWS JUST DONT GET IT. REGARDS |
I agree with Gary. Not really the appropriate place for this discussion. By the way four engine jock, do you really need to shout?:hmm:
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Originally Posted by Gary Lager
Please folks, no more of this on public forums. Whilst procedures should be designed to retain effectiveness even if details are known, it certainly doesn't enhance the safety and security of our colleagues & passengers.
SoS |
I sincerely hope this is not the case in your outfit SoS, such procedures may be well known within the industry but they are still 'restricted' within my company. No airline worthy of respect would needlessly compromise it's own security procedures on the basis of a phone call or letter.
And anyway, that's no reason to hand the information out on a plate; as I said before, most robust procedures account for the fact that their 'restricted' nature has been compromised, but we still need to keep such information as secure as we can and at least attempt to maintain the upper hand. |
Originally Posted by Gary Lager
I sincerely hope this is not the case in your outfit SoS, such procedures may be well known within the industry but they are still 'restricted' within my company. No airline worthy of respect would needlessly compromise it's own security procedures on the basis of a phone call or letter.
http://www.britishairways.com/travel...h_text=cockpit |
Originally Posted by saywhat
Hope you don't work for BA
http://www.britishairways.com/travel...h_text=cockpit "You are joking! This information can be obtained by a letter, a phone call or a visit to the website of the airline concerned. SoS |
Originally Posted by Goldfish Jack
Beats me why everyone gets upset about locked doors - there are other ways to hi-jack an a/c without having to go into the cockpit - all you have to do is grab a cabin attendant and hold them to ransom somewhere in the a/c.
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Well said TD67, I would have given my left ball to kick that guys head in:E
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The problem with SAA's locked door policy is that on aircraft with toilets outside of the flight deck some captains and first officers joke (and some are quite serious) that when they go to the toilet they'd be better off taking some of the P3's currently employed by the airline with them rather than leave them alone without supervision!!
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A cockpit actually needs two doors, like they have in banks. |
Perhaps we should get totally paranoid and ban passengers on aircraft. In fact ban aircraft outright, the pilot might be the psycho!!!!!!!!!!
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