Afrikaans Banned on PPRUNE "Non-English" Forum
 

Welcome for the club. We can't use finnish language at Nordic forum either. Someone must decided that Finland is not part of Nordic countries...

You can't leave, Guns. Who'd support the blommetjies on the cricket threads if you go?:ok:

Lo Mate

I will always be around ... till death do us part but this rubbish get's me under.

You gotta sit back and watch someone discriminate against you to get the feeling .. and I just got the feeling.

Because ONE moderator do not have the privelage of speaking / reading Afrikaans on the " Rest of The World & Non-English Language Forums" we must all suffer the consequences.

Get rid of him I say - some of us has paid to be here and enjoy it !

There are some of us that can do his work with the greatest of pleasure !

VIVAaaaaaaa Afrikaans - LONG LIVE AFRIKAANS on PPRUNE !

Count me in as well !!

This reminds me of the time they were telling us all Neil Robertson was really a GOOd GUY! Some really controversial language removed. Guys, by all means voice your opinion but keep it nice please. 4HP

Winds of Change
 

Today 46 years ago ... looks like history took a turn today... :E

I wholeheartedly support my Afrikaans compatriots here. I think the owners of this site are missing a small but very significant point. It is not THEIR site, it is the USERS and POSTERS on the site, who OWN it! Mess them around, and well, you'll just lose "customers"....me included...

Errmm.....

Barryt, you may want to rethink that. The site belongs to one D. Fyne. As has been seen on JB on more than one occasion, the final say belongs to him. I'm getting the feeling this thing is being blown out of proportion somewhat and a request to start a purely Afrikaans forum should not have been a major problem. I don't think chucking one's weight around is going to solve anything, whereas reasoned debate and negotiation may go a lot farther.

The actual reasoning behind the move would be interesting, though. Any chance of a debrief, 4HP?

Some really controversial language removed. Guys, by all means voice your opinion but keep it nice please. 4HP
Dont you mean to say voice your opinion provided we agree with that opinion.......otherwise we will suppress your aforesaid opinion?

Viva, you made a personal attack on the owner of this site which was way out of line. I just saved your butt. (I think) Take it easy; it's not worth it. 4HP

I've put the debrief on Campfire - where it belongs. It's exactly as SRT says; this is Danny's site and it's not up to us as the users to be telling him what he can & can't have here. Certainly we can motivate or make requests but it's his decision.

Please all take a deep breath on this issue; motivate or make proposals but avoid making rash statements which you may later consider were OTT.

Fly safe & take it easy. This thread has no aviation bearing but is topical so I guess we'll leave it here for a while.

4HP

Afternoon all,
To ban Afrikaans is in my view a very sad development for Pprune. I'm sure that 99.99% of all posting is done in English so I fail to see a problem.
As a pommie living in SA, after 10 years I can still only manage 3-4 sentences however, I'd hate to see you guys unable to post in Afrikaans. Although its all double dutch to me never once do I feel offended and excluded as a result. Its part of the culture of the country i love - simple as that.
Although I respect that Pprune is owned and run by Danny, it's priceless assest is the openness, experience, enthusiasm, encouragement (mostly) and passion for all things aviation of the people that contribute - particularly a certain chopper jock with a penchant for cheap red wine.:ok:
Lets hope that all is resolved soon and this proves nothing more than a storm in a teacup

Viva, you made a personal attack on the owner of this site which was way out of line. I just saved your butt. (I think) Take it easy; it's not worth it. 4HP
You made an attack on my opinion too! Dont save my butt you dont even know me. Let the Owner (or you hiding behind him) ban me he will just prove the fact that he his discriminating against a minority groups language for some unexplained reason. Is Hebrew banned too?

:uhoh:

I have copied the following from the moderation rules in the Cabin Crew Forum, posted on November 1st, 2004. I trust that this will not wobble wings.

...and if anyone has a problem with the way the moderators apply their editorial control over the forums that they put so much time and effort to look after on my behalf, then I will just apply my own personal rules and methods - which give a lot less feedback.

PPRuNe is not a free speech site. Never has been and never will be. It is MY site and I allow discussion of many aviation and even a few non aviation related topics. If I don't like something then I reserve the right to move it, delete it or edit it. PPRuNe membership now numbers over 80,000 people and is a testament the fact that neither I nor my moderators actually edit anyones post except to remove anything that is likely to cause PPRuNe harm, and rarely so at that.

Each forum is given autonomy by me for the moderators to control as they see fit. They work to a loose set of guidelines and in the case of this and a few other forums they are published as you can see above. Personally, I am not as kind and forgiving as the moderators of this and some other forums. I prefer to just wade in and if I find something is out of place or just a total waste of my and in my opinion the rest of the readerships time I will even just delete it. Anyone who has taken the time to type a long post whose content was maybe a rant or an attack or whatever, but was either a divergence from the topic or just a repeat of what had been mentioned earlier my have noticed that their handiwork had just disappeared. If so, it was probably because I decided that it wasn't worthy of a place on PPRuNe. Normally, I try to wait a bit and see if there is any merit on something before I delete a post, especially if it is obviously someone who is new to the forums. In the case of old time regulars, there is much less leeway. Funny thing though, most of the old regulars soon realise that their diatribes, if not suitable for PPRuNe, are removed and the lesson is learnt.

Anyway, enough of my 'hot air'. Each forum is moderated by one or more moderators who have been chose for their intellect, expertise and common sense. They provide their time and effort as volunteers as and when they can find the time to do so. There are always a few posters who either are not aware of this or choose to ignore the reality of the facts that this is a private website where editorial control is applied to a certain although limited extent. All I ask is that the posters and readers remain aware that the reason this website is still so popular amongst those of us who work in the industry is because of the dedicated moderation that prevents it all becoming one big flame war. If you are not happy with any aspects of the moderation, I suggest you use the 'Contact Us' link at the bottom of every page on PPRuNe or the 'Report this post' link on every post to make your views known and we will endeavour to see what can be done.

It would seem therefore, following a reading of this reminder that the hands of those who support the Afrikaans tongue are rather tied. I am not going to delve into my encyclopaedic knowledge of medieval English in order to establish that the roots of much of that language can be traced to a common thread with the now proscribed African one.:sad:

I think that we owe 4 Holer Poler a vote of thanks for fielding a tricky curved ball, which I very much doubt was of his choosing.

In as much as the damned thing is by now probably a fait accompli, I hope, speaking personally, that those amusing correspondents whose first language is now prohibited will continue to delight the pages of Pprune albeit in a tongue which they may feel inferior to their own.:D

George,

Could not agree with you more. Summed up what I had to say very nicely. :ok: :ok: Like you, Ive been living here for quite some time and I dont speak it very well but am trying to learn. Incredibly discriptive language and some things you can say far better in Afrikaans than you can say in english so I dont see why the odd sentance can't be used like it has been in the past. Politics perhaps........ :E :E :E

From The Campfire...Afrikaans : So how many of us around ? Three less. Just read the post from Towers on the other Afrikaans thread on The Campfire and decided I'm not welcome here.
Signing off from PPrune now. 121.5. Good day!:(

The MY in capitals says it all ...........arrogant bigot.

Viva has left the building - permanently. 4HP

Boy's let me put my penny worth in, as a soetie totally hated having to learn afrikaans at school but even as sh:mad: t as my afrikaans is nowdays it is always good to be able to read some of the post's in Afrikaans, it is one of our mother tounge's, Boy's upstairs jy se pos.:ok:

4HP i am not taking a dig at you boet, higher up:)