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GUSTO 19th Jan 2006 16:17

Well everything has been said about Precision Air , they do not employ foreigners if you do not have a type rating and hours on type .Specially for the captains ...


Ricco , You seem to be a very soar person . Stop bitching and moaning about Mike and get a life , there is other countries where you might find a job , and remember aviation is a small world so you cannot aford to piss off everybody ...:}

RICCARDOVOLANTE 20th Jan 2006 17:01

Gusto
 
I will stop when Costal and Air excel will shut down their operations .I do not care if I piss off everybody .They pissed me off and I will hunt down them.

Solid Rust Twotter 20th Jan 2006 17:20

That'll show 'em....;)

european champion 20th Jan 2006 18:21

I agree with Ricardo,he has some valid points,operators who do not respect their emploees and have as main priority making money than ensuring safety for their pilots and passengers should not exist.
But this is a different subject and it should go under a different tittle!
Also a better way to stop an operator from mistreating pilots or risking passenger's life is make written reports to the authorities,by writting complaints at pprune will not do anything to them,most of them probably dont even know what is pprune.

helldog 21st Jan 2006 08:15

Ricco your reasoning is quite amazing, go to a country miss out on a job and trash everyone you met there? Its crazy, its not a good attitude buddy. I advise you to keep your pprune identity a secret wherever you go. Dont worry about it I wont tell anyone about you, I wont add to your already crazy attempt to sabotage your career my friend. ANyway good luck with the search.

Crazy huh pete77? Your doing the right thing buddy.

So much crazy inaccurate info here though. P Air do hire foreigners, yes you pay for your rating but hey you have to do that for some companies in Oz in Europe. Let me tell you in the states there are dudes that pay for their ticket, as they say, then work for way less than what P Air pay. I myself am not willing to pay for a rating at this time, so I found work with a company that payed for my rating. Up to you what you want to do hippo man.

cpt hamna sheeda 22nd Jan 2006 14:34

Maybe it is not the right way to outer his frustrations, but Ricco´s points are something to think about.....

Paul (former Coastal Travel)

GUSTO 24th Jan 2006 15:05

Majority of the guys who flew for Air Excel or Coastal had their first job opportunity so you can bitch and moan as much as you want but "they" gave you a fisrt step to your carrier ...

RICCARDOVOLANTE 24th Jan 2006 15:13

Gusto
 
Hey Gusto alla Nocciola "amico del sole",what a "hell" are you talking around?
Fatti i "cacchi tuoi"
RiccardoVolante

MysticFlyer 24th Jan 2006 16:07

I'm taking a very DIM look at this! After I gave him sooooo many good tips and recommendations.....I am disgusted!:yuk:

MF:p

RICCARDOVOLANTE 24th Jan 2006 16:25

serengeti vulture
 
And tell how do you know I never touch any P68 in Bukavu?Are sure?Maybe you shoud talk with Father Denis Esnault of the "White Father" Cattolic congregation,he lives in Muresha,Bukavu ex Zaire ,RD Congo,by the way ,the airplane registration was 9Q-CZV.If it is not enogh why do not ask to the ex vice Consular of Italy in Kigali ,Rwanda,Mr.Costa he his a distributor of Tires in Rwanda.
DT DOBIE talking about him why do not ask him what he had to say about Mike when we were in Salisburg at lunch time at the Italian restaurant?I will tell you what he said "Nobody wanna work for him".How about Costal ? what he said in a while we were going to fly his C208 about Coastal?I will tell you what he said "Over ther it is all politics".So talking about that now whay do not check about and after that whay do not give me a call ?You now my phone number right you got my CV
Sincerely
Riccardo Volante
Father Denis Esnault e mail [email protected]
http://www.geocities.com/serviceaeri...ire/fleet.html

petesevenseven 25th Jan 2006 04:11

Cry Baby!!!!
 
Ricco You Cry Like a Bambino!!!!:{

Stop Crying!!!! Have some pizza or Spagetti or something whatever cheers you up!!!!!! It tastes good!!! It will put a smile on your Face!!!!!

Stop Crying Bambino!!!

BTW I think you should add another name to all of your aliases on pprune I think your next name should be "Crying Bambino"!!!!!

Chaw Bambino!!!

CathayBrat 26th Jan 2006 12:52

Very interested to see all the TZ boys on one thread. An add to P air ( trying to get back to the original thing) they also lost a wheel in Tabora on landing in the 42, one of the nose wheels, at the end of Dec. Will try to get a photo. Soap box cowboy, hope to be in dar end of next week for a beer, Helldog, good luck 9/9/06, mines on 30/9/06, pete77, karibu HTMW, hows the studying.
Cheers guys
:}

european champion 26th Jan 2006 21:23

Ok back to Precisionair.Personally i think the deal could be good even if they charge for rating.Limopo if i was you i would think first if i have a better offer from another company,if the answer is no then i would consider paying Precisionair for the rating,i believe it costs more staying without salary than paying a rating and earning a salary,its simple mathematics.

petesevenseven 27th Jan 2006 04:32

Asante Sanna!!!!
 
Cathay Asante Sanna Bwana!!!!!

The Study is going well!!!!!! Only got about 2 weeks worth of reading to go and then the sweating begins!!!!!

Happy Landings Mate!!!!!!!!


Pete!!!!!!

juliettepapa 28th Jan 2006 05:51

Dear Riccardo.

Obviously you went in the dark side.I do respect Mike and Anna.First of all because they put they heart in what they doing and make it work with all the problem you can face.I used to work for Mike for 2 and half year and do not recognize anything in what you saying.
Second of all i am glad they had a second thought and did not gave you a job.With a such attitude you could ruin what they have been building for so many years.
Most of the guys who have been working in TZ no one of you have been forced to work for them.So if you are not happy leave but stop this non sens critizing to whom gave you bread for a while and provide you with your first step in the pilot market.

Pete;
Good luck for your study.I spoke with your sister and lost contact.I heard she is looking for me...

ShenziRubani 28th Jan 2006 15:18

Nails and vaseline
 
I wanted to comment on this but I have found myself unable to critisize Air Excel anymore, whether I want it or not.
One of my close friend (who is also Qir Excel #1 client) was here for business and during our last dinner, asked me if I could do a "real friend's favor" for him. I said yes, of course and then the funny bomb: "can you stop posting anything about Mike and his 206 on one of your pilot forums". I couldn't believe it, although I very much understood. He also had a few pages printed off Prune and handed to him by Mike the Greek. :{ Funny to read things again, months later.

Well, I gave my word, now I can't go back on it. Be it.

One thing though, I (as usual) will disagree with JP, although I understand his motivation: I think people should be allowed to express themselves on this forum.
That is the main point of having a forum.
Be it cry-babies, stories, warnings, political fighting, recommendations about a hotel, or a place to find hot African women :eek: whatever you want, a forum is a free place to express one's opinion.
If someone else doesn't like it, then that person can just ignore the comments or reply and contradict. We can't start to use censorship of one's opinions, whether they are annoying or not. As much as it can be damaging to certain coimpanies or people. What is happening to Mike and Anna is happening all over the world, in all industries. Some characters, for certain reasons, provoke a lot of rage and bitterness, whether they were right or not. That's life.
There will always be Riccardo Volantes and JP's to argue and defend each other's side.
As long as there is enough poison for the con's and vaseline :ok: for the pro's of Mike/Air Excel.

If one company, or an owner like Mike, wants to avoid this, like the majority of the airlines/air operators out there, then just go low-profile, be cool, enjoy life and never get into someone's path because sour grapes never go, they keep coming back. A change of attitude on both sides helps things to disappear and go low. Or, enjoy the boards on the Net, because that's were opinion, for or against, expresses itself.

Lots of kisses from Cairo (very impressive these 42 years of history watching me :ok: )

GUSTO 28th Jan 2006 17:10

Well said JP ,

I also have lots of respect for Mike and what he built in few years of Very hard work . Everybody knows he is not the easiest person to work for , but if you don't like it them leave , easy as that ...

As mention before I will always support ANNA from Coastal and MIKE from Air Excel .

JP hoping to see you in Europe with simba of course ...

ShenziRubani 29th Jan 2006 03:22

Simba's gone Gusto. When u leave Africa Simba stays behind, for the lads. U move on and find new Simba's. Like Camels:ouch:

juliettepapa 29th Jan 2006 05:26

ShenziRubani;

I dont think you do understand the substance of the word 'Simba' for us. As it is more what gathering the people who received the teaching from mother africa. And you could be surprise there is alot of 'Simba' in the sand pit.

helldog 30th Jan 2006 10:10

Fair point shenzi. But you have to be 100% fair in your comments. You for instance can make certain comments about Air Excel because you have worked for them. Ricco did not. Also it is quite well known who you are so what you say is specific and you do not hide who you are, thats fair enough. But to do what ricco is doing is just plain silly.


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