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ruffusruffcut001 12th Jun 2005 09:18

Crisis looming at SACAA
 
Heard form one of the technical inspectors that the technical side is going to be chaotic in the coming twelve months, the reason being is that most of the paleface inspectors are going to retire/resign.I say paleface because now it seems that the word white is taboo.
So, the aviation companies must brace themselves for hair pulling situations.

Rhodie 12th Jun 2005 09:24

Ah yes -

I foresee more groundings as per the Lanseria 'incident'.

"No sah, the aeroplane is grounded becos this one she has propeleers and thus therefore it must take the Avgas, not the JetA1".

:yuk:

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B Sousa 12th Jun 2005 11:57

"So, the aviation companies must brace themselves for hair pulling situations."
Au Contrare........Soon it will be do as you like just put dee money in me hand.......

ruffusruffcut001 12th Jun 2005 14:36

B.Sousa
I hope for the industry,s sake you are wrong and hopefully there are sane leaders in the industry to nip it in the butt.

B Sousa 12th Jun 2005 16:39

Totally agree Ruff but go back to the Huey thread which is fading away and its a perfect example of money beating up on the SACAA.
Its acceptable to do EEO or Affirmative Aaction, however, you have to replace those in the know with someone who at least has been in an aircraft..

Cessnafan 12th Jun 2005 18:04

"No sah, the aeroplane is grounded becos this one she has propeleers and thus therefore it must take the Avgas, not the JetA1".


A friend of mine was decended upon at FALA last week where after inspection of the aircraft(a kingair) one of the powers that be was adamant that the airfcraft had to have a TCAS!

Solid Rust Twotter 12th Jun 2005 19:12

It's been said before.

The new inspectors are unlicenced, have never worked on a shop floor and have no knowledge of the aircraft they're paid to inspect. They can insist on neatly copied paperwork and spurious money grabbing regulations but are unable to spot an incorrectly threaded bolt or a cracked stringer. Issuing them licences willy nilly will not improve things one iota. The issue is flight safety and it doesn't matter a jot how many new forms have to be filled in (except to remove engineers from their primary responsibilities even more), no amount of paperwork makes an aircraft safe to fly. That can only be done by a skilled and appropriately licenced engineer satisfying the requirements of the maintenance manuals.

As you can imagine, this lack of adequate inspection will also adversely affect the value of the aircraft operating on the ZS register, thus effectively devaluing the investment potential of aircraft, leading to fewer jobs and less opportunity.

Is this the job creation scheme that was used as a ploy to win votes at the last election?:(

B Sousa 12th Jun 2005 20:18

"As you can imagine, this lack of adequate inspection will also adversely affect the value of the aircraft operating on the ZS register, thus effectively devaluing the investment potential of aircraft, leading to fewer jobs and less opportunity. "

Also as mentioned before....Make suspect any document with an origin in SA. Basically saying that if it goes to SA it will stay on the Continent. Not going to do much for the Pilot/Mechanic Licenses either.
So far all of this is down the road, but just around the corner.........

birdlady 12th Jun 2005 21:00

I suppose then gentlemen that its a good thing that my paperwork is always spot on :ok: :ok: :ok: sorry guys couldnt resist :p :p

B Sousa 13th Jun 2005 02:40

Birdlady, thats the way it is supposed to be, take pride in the fact that you do things properly.
Point of the above post is that maybe in the future all documents from SA will be suspect. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly.
sorry, couldnt resist that one............

Solid Rust Twotter 13th Jun 2005 06:15

Bert, BL...

I don't think the documentation is the problem here. All forms will be filled in to the satisfaction of the CAA inspector. Unfortunately when they inspect an aircraft, they have no idea what they're looking at. Even basic A&P is something of which they have no experience, let alone actually being licenced to work on the aircraft they're inspecting for a Certificate of Airworthiness or Safety. Perhaps a two year apprenticeship at Denel would help but that would delay the headlong rush to "transform" at CAA.:rolleyes:

Beta Light 13th Jun 2005 07:52

crises not looming
 
Dear fellow aviators, the crisis is not looming.... just escalating, tried to renew a license by post lately?? Mission impossible! Must be the only org. that do not recognize e-mail as legal correspondence, or reply to an e-mail.

Bit like the assistant at a government org. that was asked to send a fax, after 20 minutes and 50 try’s she informed her superior that the paper kept returning

phydeaux 13th Jun 2005 09:06

Not only trying by post but..........
 
Having an untidy hand writing I downloaded the renewal forms of the Said Organisations site and typed in the information required. I signed it and went to hand it in. The answer follows:

'We is unable to take vat. I can like to be in ve hand writing!' (accent changed to protect the innocent):bored:

B Sousa 13th Jun 2005 15:09

Proof is in the Pudding. Folks are not having probems making US Money on the Laser Printers. Im sure Licsencing, Aircraft Records, etc, wont be far behind and who would know the difference in Timbuktu??
And Yes it can have a nice big Offical Seal for another R20...
Soon folks wont worry about fighting with the mess.........
This is very Negative stuff, show me a Positive light.....

ruffusruffcut001 13th Jun 2005 17:53

SRT,
you are thinking along the same lines as I do.You are right on the numbers when you state that job creation is vote hunting, the reason being is that the dreaded disease is taking votes away quicker than what,s being reported in the media.
"No shop experience"
True story:
Had in the hangar the other day a previously disadvantage technical inspector asking me how the anti-skid system works on a Lear 35A.My reply was , fair or unfair, that he should know that or at least look in the manuals which the manufactors supply at a cost.There is a full updated library at H.Q ,Midrand

I.R.PIRATE 13th Jun 2005 17:59

SOMETHING POSITIVE
 
Hey Bert, heres something positive. We will only have to deal with these clowns while we have a medical and licence. That means that within the next 20-30 years they will be out of our hair. And then we will die, and totally forget about them. At least this punishment is finite....positive dont you think???

B Sousa 13th Jun 2005 18:12

Well, I wasnt talking THAT positive..ha ha

SASless 13th Jun 2005 18:17

Now Bert.....you do seem to be leading the pack with some of your thinking of late!

Dear me....Late?

Jangys 17th Jun 2005 15:17

Flight Ops-Insp. resigning?
 
Heard that some of the flight operation inspectors are also resigning. Ex Nationwide Flight-engineer retiring to Airaquarius, and a Ex airforce Col.... retiring to "SAFAIR"???

Seems like Quality is also now out the door at "that said organisation"

Requirements for new inspectors.... Quote a inspector...."SA CPL"

"aah, sorry Captain wif 15 000hrs, fly-in Booeng 747. buta youra, actually aah notaaaa....doing youra loadsheet correctly...."\\

Like pre-school students they will try to educate and inspect instructors....

ou Trek dronkie 17th Jun 2005 17:25

When I read all this, I think of some of the guys I used to swear at regularly years ago and I say "Come back please guys, all is forgiven".

oTd


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