Congoman et al,

First of all the only reason that I have chimed in with my two cents worth is that I did my PPL in George at your school Mr WW.

It was the best 5 weeks of my life I have to say. It was way back in 2002 and your aeroplanes were shot and your CFI had all the CRM of a bag of cement.

Having said that your brother was a great chap and you did my PPL test and that was 2.5 hours of great experience also. Teaching was good and flying was excellent.

Part of the reason I have tried to challenge some of Sandy's emotive claims is that something like this portrays the whole of SA in a bad light which simply creates the wrong impression.

Pprune Towers/Rob Lloyd's comments simply perpetuate this false impression of South Africa. The subtext of everything he has posted on this topic has been negative about South Africa.

Rob, the way you responded to an Irv Lee post on this tread was pretty disgusting IMHO.

Whilst the advent of JAR training has provided the fodder for a wide variety of flying schools in SA to make some very dubious and downright false marketing claims, a chap like Irv has run a service that in effect present the facts and cuts out the BS once and for all and we must applaud him for doing so and further more actually encourage him to present the facts as I doubt there is anyone is a more knowledgable position than he on the whole subject of the UK/SA PPL issues.

Mr WW,

I do find the claims that one man and his flying school can be held personally liable for nervous break down and marriage splits rather tenuous. If Mr Todd is a serial womaniser and a marriage break-up incurred as a result of a spouse falling for Mr GT then even so it takes two to tango so it would be interesting to see Sandy defend this assertion. Note he hasn't done.

Rgds to All

I didn't see Rob being disgusting towards Irv. What he did was dare to state the fact that an SA PPL is useless back in the UK, and schools in SA don't make this clear. You have a SA PPL I take it GT. What do you do when you're in Manchester, and the 152 you are type rated on isn't available? Drive to Popham to ge validated on a (similiar) 150? It is a ridiculous system which offers no flexibility.
About time Gunns. I very much enjoy most of your posts on a regular basis. But on this topic I am tired of hearing your complaints about censorship. If this guy wasn't being dishonest he would have nothing to fear.