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South African Airways. The end.

Old 24th Apr 2020, 23:38
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Cuba likes to sell medical personnel. Itís a source of hard currency for the communist government. So Cuba will send a doctor, charge say, 100 dollars per month to a nation, then pay the doctor 10 dollars per month. The Cuban government keeps the 90. Why donít the doctors just stay overseas? Because theyíre being watched and monitored by their intelligence services.
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Old 25th Apr 2020, 07:04
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Cuba and the ANC regime have very close ties.
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Old 25th Apr 2020, 20:20
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Keep a lookout for LHR-JNB tomorrow, JNB-MIA-CPT on Monday, CPT-PER Tuesday.
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 04:21
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And, whilst I am looking, I see there's another SAA A340 in Havana of all places. That has to be a medical aid trip.


This actually was using a Cubana callsign...
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 16:21
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going nowhere

It is not going anywhere. government will save it. Any bets ?
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Old 27th Apr 2020, 16:34
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The collective denial within South Africa about the reality of SAA's financial situation continues to amaze me. It's like denying that gravity exists. From next week, anyone still working for SAA is working for free. It's as simple as that. And without fuel, money for servicing, landing fees, etc, the aircraft will have nowhere to fly as they will get impounded.

On the other hand, all except one of the aircraft still flying are actually owned outright by SAA so they will not be paying lease charges. It is conceivable that a very small rump airline could stagger on, much like Air Zimbabwe with its lone serviceable 767. But who would knowingly book on it when all of its long-haul routes are also flown by much better airlines? No-one really wants to fly in tatty old A340s when something better is available.
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Old 28th Apr 2020, 09:12
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Good riddance. After the ANC got their grubby hands on the once great SAA it ceased to be a world class airline. All their racist hiring procedures destroyed it and its reputation. Let this be a lesson to black Africans, nobody cares about your identity politics and your racist 'Positive Discrimination' hiring process. Dont expect to be taken seriously anytime soon.
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Old 29th Apr 2020, 12:30
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Originally Posted by caiman27 View Post
The collective denial within South Africa about the reality of SAA's financial situation continues to amaze me. It's like denying that gravity exists.
Who exactly is in denial? Definitely not the public. I think not even the useless ANC politicians are in denial anymore, but it is much more complicated than that.
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Old 29th Apr 2020, 13:47
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https://www.capetalk.co.za/articles/...bNN-wc07hGQ3SU
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Old 29th Apr 2020, 14:12
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Originally Posted by Bokpiel View Post
Who exactly is in denial? Definitely not the public. I think not even the useless ANC politicians are in denial anymore, but it is much more complicated than that.

I refer you to yesterday's editorial in Business Day: https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/op...gordhan-up-to/

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Old 1st May 2020, 18:37
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So, did anyone at SAA actually get paid at the end of April?
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Old 1st May 2020, 20:37
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We all did and I even got quite a lot more than I expected😁😁
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Old 10th May 2020, 14:50
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It is actually disgusting...whilst other airlines are on unpaid leave and then on 50% salary only once they start flying again
So it is not only the fat politicians at the top...
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Old 18th May 2020, 05:44
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Now we have a pause whilst the Govt and the Airline and lots of others have an Indaba.

Any guesses as to where next?
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Old 19th May 2020, 11:23
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SA Express gone

https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/na...eturn-to-work/

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Old 19th May 2020, 15:41
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South African Airways leased aircraft are now being reclaimed by their owners. Four A330 flown to the USA for storage.
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Old 20th May 2020, 11:53
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No, they’re being returned to their lessors....... we’ve exited the leases early.
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Old 20th May 2020, 17:55
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It's refreshing to see that SA Airlink has just completed a St. Helena run, but under their own 4Z code this time.
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Old 1st Jun 2020, 20:46
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I can't post links but Bloomberg have a piece today headlined "The administrators running South Africa's embattled national airline proposed the government provide a 21 billion rand ($1.2 billion) bailout to help repay debt and resume operations after the lifting of Covid-19 travel bans".

The article suggests the money has been budgeted by the government. Has SAA escaped again to blow further billions over the next year.
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Old 17th Jun 2020, 14:27
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The Business Rescue Plan has now been published. The proposal includes plans to restart flying in July 2020 using six narrow bodied aircraft, expanding in September to 10 small narrow body, 9 narrow body and 4 wide body aircraft and adding a further 3 wide body aircraft in January 2021. 1,000 employees will be retained at the start, increasing to 2,892 by year end.

Full report here: https://matusonassociates.co.za/wp-c...escue-Plan.pdf

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