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Old 2nd Jul 2019, 19:45
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Tanzania single engine at night

Hi

I have heart that apparently it is illegal according to Tanzanian air law to take off in Tanzania with a single engine plane by night? Can anyone verify this? Is this also true for planes that are not registered in Tanzania? According to the air law of the country the plane is registered in, taking off at night with a single engine is legal.

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Old 3rd Jul 2019, 05:21
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I am not sure but I think this applies to Single-Engine Piston? I think that a single engine turbine would be legal
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Old 3rd Jul 2019, 06:28
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In Afrika, I found through a decade of experience that one asks for forgiveness and not permission. Tell the rote memorized controllers what you’re going to do. This is the only way to operate outside of SA.
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Old 3rd Jul 2019, 08:29
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Risk management

Being legal doesn't mean it's safe. When that single fan stops, one really needs to see, where to put the a/c down, with any degree of safety. Difficult on a pitch black night!

Certain routes in Africa for example, the minimum legal fuel requirements dont always give you enough fuel, considering alternates, communication, navaids or lack of etc, etc. Especially operating a heavy a/c. Less options of course. "The only time you have too much fuel on board is when you are on fire". Dont the operators just love that. 🤣

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Old 3rd Jul 2019, 22:29
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Thanks for the reply from someone that doesn’t fly in Africa.
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Old 3rd Jul 2019, 22:48
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No not anymore.

Since Rhodesia mid 70's light a/c 15 years in Africa from the top to the bottom. Ag aviation and bush flying.

Heavy a/c worldwide including most countries in Africa. (North, South, East and west.)

20k + TT. Don't assume anything. It makes an ass of yoU and me.

So considering the above I think I have the experience to contribute to discussions on matters of safety for example. No I don't know all the answers.

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Old 5th Jul 2019, 20:13
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Originally Posted by carrot123 View Post
Hi

I have heart that apparently it is illegal according to Tanzanian air law to take off in Tanzania with a single engine plane by night? Can anyone verify this? Is this also true for planes that are not registered in Tanzania? According to the air law of the country the plane is registered in, taking off at night with a single engine is legal.

Thanks
Yes that's correct, single engine aircraft are not permitted to fly within TZ FIR at night. Applies to single engine turbine as well.
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Old 5th Jul 2019, 20:38
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Standing by to be corrected but I was under the impression that under ICOA the rules of the “host” country prevail over the rules of the “registration” country.
Aka the stricter one always overrules.
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Old 6th Jul 2019, 08:59
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Thanks everyone!
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Flew to Dar a couple of months ago for a Medevac flight, we went to pick up a patient to take him to Joburg, with a PC12; landed at 22:00 and when I went to Flight Briefing office to pay the fees and file the outbound FP I was told that I have to wait until sunrise to leave...I then asked why I was granted permission to enter their airspace with a SET at night, so they call the Airport Safety Manager and she sent us an email after 15' granting permission for our departure as soon as possible because of Medevac flight...
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