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Prospects for future upcoming pilots in East Africa

Old 13th Feb 2019, 03:48
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You could try, Tanzania.
Coastal Aviation, Auric Air, Regional Air etc.
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 05:02
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Originally Posted by flyingcrankshaft View Post
Hey!

I trained in the US and got a FAA CPL SEL/MEL with IR. I am going to do some time building before heading over to Africa to try my luck. Planning to head to Namibia first before heading to other countries. Being a foreigner and having a foreigner license, license conversion is my second concern. My first concern is to be hired. I am hoping to fly for companies that fly tourists into safaris, hence will be making my first stop in Namibia or Botswana. Do you guys know of any such companies in East Africa or anywhere in Africa?
Most of the tourist use smaller planers to access such places as the Mara and other remotely located airstips. There are plenty of such companies in Kenya, including Safari Link Kenya, Air Kenya, Penial Kenya, East African Express, Aeronov and many other companies. Most of these companies use Cessna Caravans, and some use Dash Q Series. So as you try to build time, you might have to consider prioritizing handling these two types of planes. Congo is also a good place to try. You might also have to consider Flight Instruction, that field doesnt have so many people in it, especially here in Nairobi.

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Old 13th Feb 2019, 05:45
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Originally Posted by flyingcrankshaft View Post
Hey!

I trained in the US and got a FAA CPL SEL/MEL with IR. I am going to do some time building before heading over to Africa to try my luck. Planning to head to Namibia first before heading to other countries. Being a foreigner and having a foreigner license, license conversion is my second concern. My first concern is to be hired. I am hoping to fly for companies that fly tourists into safaris, hence will be making my first stop in Namibia or Botswana. Do you guys know of any such companies in East Africa or anywhere in Africa?

With all due respect, given the current employment climate in East Africa in general, employment in Kenya/Tanzania/Uganda, the chances of employment as a low hour foreigner is zero. Too much competition, too many locals and you will not be able to get a work permit. Botswana do take low hour people, depending on many factors but you will need a minimum of 500 hours for them to process a work permit. Can't speak to other places though.

All the best with you search though.
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Old 13th Feb 2019, 15:53
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Hey, The Sankara and kibz2005, thanks for the info.

I have thought of going into flight instruction but it's a costly move. Still weighing my options here. I'll probably go with the cheaper route by praying and begging companies in Africa would hire me after my hour building.
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 00:57
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Originally Posted by flyingcrankshaft View Post
Hey, The Sankara and kibz2005, thanks for the info.

I have thought of going into flight instruction but it's a costly move. Still weighing my options here. I'll probably go with the cheaper route by praying and begging companies in Africa would hire me after my hour building.
Whatís costly about it? It probably pays more than flying a bush plane. There are places in the US that will pay for your CFI to get u to work there. The written test is $100 and the exam is whatever the examiner charges or free if you do it with the Feds. I donít recommend the Feds in ANY country...The only difference is that you have to do spin training. Youíre already 90% of the way there. It sounds like you just donít want to flight instruct. Thatís totally a legitimate thought. It sucked. Stop BSíing a forum of professional womanizing, boda boda riding, duty free booze smuggling pirates.
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 02:19
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Whatís costly about it? It probably pays more than flying a bush plane. There are places in the US that will pay for your CFI to get u to work there. The written test is $100 and the exam is whatever the examiner charges or free if you do it with the Feds. I donít recommend the Feds in ANY country...The only difference is that you have to do spin training. Youíre already 90% of the way there. It sounds like you just donít want to flight instruct. Thatís totally a legitimate thought. It sucked. Stop BSíing a forum of professional womanizing, boda boda riding, duty free booze smuggling pirates.
How I wish someone would pay for my CFI. But I am not a US citizen nor a US resident. It is highly unlikely I would get this offer. Funds are a little tight for me at the moment therefore it feels costly to me. If I were to go for flight instruction, I am not guaranteed a job. And if I got hired as a CFI, I will only be allowed to work for a year or 2 year max. It's true that I am not keen in flight instruction. It was never my first choice. But it seems like something I may have to do to achieve my goals. Therefore I am considering the flight instruction route.
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 02:45
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Youíre not guaranteed a job as a 777 Captain either, with a gaggle of nubile hosties coming behind you. However, you invested in your training already. You might have to slum it like the rest of us working stiffs and watch students keep effing up day after day.
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 02:50
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Fair enough. I'll take that into consideration.
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 03:49
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Originally Posted by flyingcrankshaft View Post
Hey, The Sankara and kibz2005, thanks for the info.

I have thought of going into flight instruction but it's a costly move. Still weighing my options here. I'll probably go with the cheaper route by praying and begging companies in Africa would hire me after my hour building.
CFI training is not as costly as you are insinuating my friend. Its actually chepaer than most of the other trainings. Am sure for about $7500, you can get your CFI licence.
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 04:59
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CFI training is not as costly as you are insinuating my friend. Its actually chepaer than most of the other trainings. Am sure for about $7500, you can get your CFI licence.
Its true that the CFI course cost about $7500. But in order to get the necessary visa to work in the US after completing the course, I need a longer course (That's according to the school. Maybe they just want to suck more money out of me). Meaning I have to do CFI, CFII and MEI. It takes about half a year if everything goes on smoothly. The whole program alone cost about $24000 (Plus the school requires me to pay 50% upfront before the course starts). That's not including other expenses (accommodation, transport, etc). I have been corresponding with schools and doing the calculations recently. The amount adds up to quite a lot and I know that being a pilot have a huge start up cost.

So, after thinking about it, I see myself having two options. Option one (expensive) is to suck it up and gather all my funds for the CFI courses. Or two (less expensive), build a little more hours and find a job in the single engine (hopefully in Africa) and move on from there.

I appreciate all your replies. It really makes me think more about my current situation. Thanks!
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 07:15
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Originally Posted by flyingcrankshaft View Post
Its true that the CFI course cost about $7500. But in order to get the necessary visa to work in the US after completing the course, I need a longer course (That's according to the school. Maybe they just want to suck more money out of me). Meaning I have to do CFI, CFII and MEI. It takes about half a year if everything goes on smoothly. The whole program alone cost about $24000 (Plus the school requires me to pay 50% upfront before the course starts). That's not including other expenses (accommodation, transport, etc). I have been corresponding with schools and doing the calculations recently. The amount adds up to quite a lot and I know that being a pilot have a huge start up cost.

So, after thinking about it, I see myself having two options. Option one (expensive) is to suck it up and gather all my funds for the CFI courses. Or two (less expensive), build a little more hours and find a job in the single engine (hopefully in Africa) and move on from there.

I appreciate all your replies. It really makes me think more about my current situation. Thanks!
All the best in your endevors, just think about it and factor in all the costs and time that will take you to finish the course. You dont have to do the instructing in the USA, once you have your CFI you can start looking for work in Africa. Am sure this route will be fruitful. Also dont stick to the states only, consider Canada as well.

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Old 14th Feb 2019, 15:02
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Cool

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Stop BSíing a forum of professional womanizing, boda boda riding, duty free booze smuggling pirates.
Hey hey hey! I take offence to that! I'm no pirate
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