Shine Aviation C208 crash
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Shine Aviation C208 crash
5H-KEN has crashed on Take-off in a Selous Hunting Strip, Pilot is reported fine, Co-Pilot and a hunter reported injured. Aircraft overran runway into trees and reportedly caught fire.
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So i hear the TCAA refused to fly to the crash site in SHINE's 206. Fair enough.
Instead, Tropical was chartered to take a TCAA inspector, as well as the captain who crashed 5H-KEN, to the crash site. Needless to say, they couldn't find the airstrip so returned to Dar with nothing accomplished. How that happened in this day and age of GPS... i got no clue. Flying in the bush ain't hard by any means, but when you got an island hopping airline crash in the bush... and send another island hopping company in to help investigate, what do you expect???
Instead, Tropical was chartered to take a TCAA inspector, as well as the captain who crashed 5H-KEN, to the crash site. Needless to say, they couldn't find the airstrip so returned to Dar with nothing accomplished. How that happened in this day and age of GPS... i got no clue. Flying in the bush ain't hard by any means, but when you got an island hopping airline crash in the bush... and send another island hopping company in to help investigate, what do you expect???
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You'd be surprised how long those planes lay around in the parks, just in Selous there is a 402, a 337 at the bottom of the river and I'm not sure what happened to the Beech that went down a few years back. Sure there are a couple more I'm forgetting about ah yes a burnt out PA-31 but not much to steal from that one, did get away with an aileron though one of the larger remaining pieces.
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Hello all: I was present, eye witness to this crash. The crash did not happen in Selous, but at "Likawage airstrip, which is a great strip, and very visible. The flight in with passengers was on their 206. After landing, their 206 failed to start, and was abandoned on the strip for some time.. When they returned 11 days later, they came with Caravan .
The pilot (according to what the Co-pilot told me) attempted to land from the east (wind behind him), and was told by the CP that "what are you doing?? You can not land from that direction!!" After the plane landed, and was loaded with one passenger from USA and his luggage, the "pilot" took off the wrong way, (to the west). I checked my cigarette, and the wind was fairly strong, from the east to west (as usual). He did not turn the plane around, but took off straight west, much to our surprised. The plane then dissapeared into the trees. We drove to end of strip, then ran to give aid.
The plane was on fire & black smoke on the right side, fuel spilling from the left side. We thought perhaps all were dead. We pulled out everyone, then risked our lives to save the luggage. The pilot un hurt, american injured, and CP was the worst (covered with blood). I used a sat phone to call for help, then took all to nearest small village for doctor.
The highly professional FLIGHTLINK came to rescue in a Caravan. They were not surprised, and seemed to know stories about this so-called "Pilot". I heard they revoked his license, but can not verify that at this time. Tragic! I have many photos of the aircraft on fire.
The pilot (according to what the Co-pilot told me) attempted to land from the east (wind behind him), and was told by the CP that "what are you doing?? You can not land from that direction!!" After the plane landed, and was loaded with one passenger from USA and his luggage, the "pilot" took off the wrong way, (to the west). I checked my cigarette, and the wind was fairly strong, from the east to west (as usual). He did not turn the plane around, but took off straight west, much to our surprised. The plane then dissapeared into the trees. We drove to end of strip, then ran to give aid.
The plane was on fire & black smoke on the right side, fuel spilling from the left side. We thought perhaps all were dead. We pulled out everyone, then risked our lives to save the luggage. The pilot un hurt, american injured, and CP was the worst (covered with blood). I used a sat phone to call for help, then took all to nearest small village for doctor.
The highly professional FLIGHTLINK came to rescue in a Caravan. They were not surprised, and seemed to know stories about this so-called "Pilot". I heard they revoked his license, but can not verify that at this time. Tragic! I have many photos of the aircraft on fire.
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The pilot (according to what the Co-pilot told me) attempted to land from the east (wind behind him), and was told by the CP that "what are you doing?? You can not land from that direction!!"
Is there a obstacle departure or something that this strip?
I checked my cigarette, and the wind was fairly strong
then risked our lives to save the luggage
NTK take a deep breath, cool down and, since you are at it, take also a moment to re-read what YOU have posted as quoted text; should you be too lazy or winded up to do it I'll take the liberty to point it to you: FROM THE EAST
Now, gentleman, make your considerations...
Now, gentleman, make your considerations...
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YeaH, makes a little more sense, the takeoff and landing part were just worded a little funny.
That and I couldn't get over the part about checking the wind with his cig and risking his life to save a bag
That and I couldn't get over the part about checking the wind with his cig and risking his life to save a bag
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Taking off with 1 pax and a copilot shouldn't make even a 20 kt tailwind a concern when you're that light. Some places you'll go into are one way in, one way out, tailwind takeoff and yet we sure as hell take a good payload out without risking lives. I heard the pilot was holding the nose up on the takeoff roll, which is the norm... but he was lifting the nose way too much = too much drag... a royal f*ck up. This the same guy taken off with pod doors open... so i'm not surprised!
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I've been using this strip for several years. The planes ALWAYS land & take off from the same direction...(I'm pretty sure) west to east, into the wind! All my staff (who were present) know that as well!! They always taxi to the far west end of the strip, and then turn around, and take off to the east (I have flown so many times on this strip, can not even guess how many times); and its ALWAYS been that way, and never seen a plane take off the direction the Shine pilot took off that day. We ALL thought he would just taxi to the left, turn the plane around, and take off to our right (I was talking on my Sat phone at the time, and not paying much attention, as I thought he was just taxing). I'm not a licensed pilot (but have many, many hours experience flying in bush planes) but as we rushed to the crash site, I said what the *#@&! Why did he take off that way!!?? We were all shocked and could not believe it!
What do you find so funny about this scary, serious crash, in which nice people were injured, and very nearly killed??? What do you find so funny about noticing the wind direction with cigarette smoke????? There were also bush fires/smoke in the area that day, which any good bush pilot could, and should have seen. When the rescue plane came (Flightlink) with the two highly professional pilots, I talked to them. They wanted to know what I observed (although I got the impression from things they said, that they could see the whole entire story already). One Pilot was smoking a cigara, and said to me: "Look, you can see from my smoke which way you are supposed to take off! He took off the WRONG direction!" I said, "I know". Now, that is what a certified Caravan pilot told me. The wind that day was fairly stiff wind (not sure how many knots?), coming from the east., right to left from where we stood.
MY STAFF VERY BRAVELY risked their lives to pull out our client's very expensive rifles & luggage. They should be commended, not condemed! I thought the plane would explode at any moment and tried my best to call them back....but they were very brave & determined men and saved all his luggage!
The Co-pilot (who is a nice guy, and was very badly hurt) was very angry at the pilot, and privately told me he blamed him for the crash. He said that he told the pilot he was attemping a take off from wrong direction. He told me other things I will not repeat here. The co-pilot said this while being stitched up at Likawage Village local doctor.
The American client (who was injured himself) bravely assisted the Co-pilot (whom he at first thought was dead) and pulled him to safety. In the hospital at Dar, he was thanked by the co-pilot's mother & father for "Saving our son's life".
The American passenger told me the pilot (getting a ride back to Dar on the rescue flight) laughed & joked in Swahili, and whistled the whole fight. Very strange! The other American coming in on that fight that day, was introduced at Dar airport "This is your pilot". He told me he laughed because he thought they were joking. He related this guy "had a very sloppy appearance, with half shirt tail hanging out" and seemed un-talkative, etc.
There were other observations made regarding this pilot, but were deleted by the moderator. So I won't discuss it here.
Yes, I have many photos, and may try post later. But I want to give them first to the American passenger.
Either you dont know that much about bush aviation, or don't know how to read. Perhaps both?
What do you find so funny about this scary, serious crash, in which nice people were injured, and very nearly killed??? What do you find so funny about noticing the wind direction with cigarette smoke????? There were also bush fires/smoke in the area that day, which any good bush pilot could, and should have seen. When the rescue plane came (Flightlink) with the two highly professional pilots, I talked to them. They wanted to know what I observed (although I got the impression from things they said, that they could see the whole entire story already). One Pilot was smoking a cigara, and said to me: "Look, you can see from my smoke which way you are supposed to take off! He took off the WRONG direction!" I said, "I know". Now, that is what a certified Caravan pilot told me. The wind that day was fairly stiff wind (not sure how many knots?), coming from the east., right to left from where we stood.
MY STAFF VERY BRAVELY risked their lives to pull out our client's very expensive rifles & luggage. They should be commended, not condemed! I thought the plane would explode at any moment and tried my best to call them back....but they were very brave & determined men and saved all his luggage!
The Co-pilot (who is a nice guy, and was very badly hurt) was very angry at the pilot, and privately told me he blamed him for the crash. He said that he told the pilot he was attemping a take off from wrong direction. He told me other things I will not repeat here. The co-pilot said this while being stitched up at Likawage Village local doctor.
The American client (who was injured himself) bravely assisted the Co-pilot (whom he at first thought was dead) and pulled him to safety. In the hospital at Dar, he was thanked by the co-pilot's mother & father for "Saving our son's life".
The American passenger told me the pilot (getting a ride back to Dar on the rescue flight) laughed & joked in Swahili, and whistled the whole fight. Very strange! The other American coming in on that fight that day, was introduced at Dar airport "This is your pilot". He told me he laughed because he thought they were joking. He related this guy "had a very sloppy appearance, with half shirt tail hanging out" and seemed un-talkative, etc.
There were other observations made regarding this pilot, but were deleted by the moderator. So I won't discuss it here.
Yes, I have many photos, and may try post later. But I want to give them first to the American passenger.
Either you dont know that much about bush aviation, or don't know how to read. Perhaps both?
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Real strange fella indeed. No remorse for his careless actions. I hope they strip him of his license indefinitely. PRofessional slob, not sure if it's even possible for him to tuck in his XXXL white shirt... and a real prick to white people. Truth. He stays planted in his caravan seat from the first flight of the day til the last...with the ground handlers running around outside. No way he would pass a real medical. I can bet my license on that.
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MY STAFF VERY BRAVELY risked their lives to pull out our client's very expensive rifles & luggage. They should be commended, not condemed! I thought the plane would explode at any moment and tried my best to call them back....but they were very brave & determined men and saved all his luggage!
You must think your staffs lives are rather worthless to commend them for risking themselves to "save" a replaceable rifle and other ITEMS.
IMO...
ITEMS<LIVES
Priorities
Skin
Tin
Ticket
...luggage doesn't even make the list
Found this kinda odd, could you clarify?
serious crash, in which nice people were injured, and very nearly killed?
rescue plane came (Flightlink) with the two highly professional pilots,
One Pilot was smoking a cigara, and said to me: "Look, you can see from my smoke which way you are supposed to take off!
....and the music stops....
SO the rescue pilots shutdown for a smoke break, while one patient was significantly injured and another patient "nearly KILLED" ???
I would think the above scene would constitute keeping the rescue plane turning, for a load and go trauma evac!
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