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Ladies' hair!
The thing about the ladies' hairstyle is so true. Out of the 47 guys who sat for the aptitude on Tuesday there was only one lady. I've never seen anyone that lucky! She was bang on 5'4'' and the height was taken from the top of the hairstyle she had. If she had decided on a clean shave that morning then we'd have been 'Juja boys'! I saw another lady sent away at 5'3.5''! Talk about luck! So any lady going in with a height around that range, see your saloonist 
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Wow one 1 lady out of the 47! Well if she puts on just a bit of some effort then she would be the luckiest of all the bunch! She is kinda guaranteed a RHS!
The carrier will continue struggling with LHS drivers. Most of the current Senior First officers when they get their commands, they just seat on them for 6-12 months then off to the desert were they are guaranteed "heavy" command time after 4.5-5 years not to forget higher wages than the carrier.
The carrier will employ expert's for LHS positions at one point. KALPA will make noises, this and that but it will all fed away given that they stuffed up their T7 colleagues careers & pay off!
The carrier will continue struggling with LHS drivers. Most of the current Senior First officers when they get their commands, they just seat on them for 6-12 months then off to the desert were they are guaranteed "heavy" command time after 4.5-5 years not to forget higher wages than the carrier.
The carrier will employ expert's for LHS positions at one point. KALPA will make noises, this and that but it will all fed away given that they stuffed up their T7 colleagues careers & pay off!
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I do not think KALPA shafted it's 777 pilots. They did what they thought was best, they chose to fight a mean spirited action from a management acting in bad faith and unfortunately they lost. CBAs are negotiated as a give and take, the clause 34b from the CBA that the company invoked was given as a show of good faith by the union, if ever the Company genuinely found itself with a glut of pilots in tough economic times. That was never the case, it was being used as a cost cutting measure and a tool to fight the union. Everyone knew the company did not have enough drivers at the time, depending on pilots goodwill to keep the metal flying, but they saw an opportunity to get rid of " expensive" drivers. How do you claim redundancy based on Type while you still have aeroplanes flying, the argument was fleet contraction, but there were fleets struggling with not enough left seat drivers. Let's just say the unprecedented attrition you see at the pride now is not because of greener pastures, the ME3 carriers have always been in existence but never have KQ pilots left in droves like they are doing now. It's a lack of respect and bad faith from management that precipitated the exodus. Ever asked yourself why the management is always so willing and ready to pay market rate for experts on whichever fleet instead of retaining their local talent? You know the bright eyed DEP being recruited now cost a fraction of what they would pay to have expert bums on those jets
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its really interesting. Only 40 guys made it to the psycho-motor level, which was done Tuesday this week and nobody has gotten an email as yet from KQ as a regret or otherwise. I understand the Sim is down for maintenance and maybe this is why they are buying time before they call people in for SIM.
I really don't have a certain answer to all these.
About the new posting, my guess is they are just short of numbers and they need people.
Funny enough they chopped off almost 120 at the psychometric level. Its just all confusing right now.
I really don't have a certain answer to all these.
About the new posting, my guess is they are just short of numbers and they need people.
Funny enough they chopped off almost 120 at the psychometric level. Its just all confusing right now.
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By the way the precious lady mentioned was a casualty of the psychometric. Yeah there is that rule of hanging out to dry for 2 years before you re apply again. But she has re applied. Talk of tenacity.
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I also noticed there was some repair work being done on the sim, it is amazing how the numbers have reduced drastically post psychometric. Fingers crossed for the remaining stages,
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Rumor has it they didn't get the threshold they needed hence the re-advert. Its ironic how they are re-advertising yet they still have a good number of 'cut' applicant to select from.
However for those who didn't make the deadline for the prior application this is redemption so there's a window of opportunity including for those who got cut persistence pays..eventually.
However for those who didn't make the deadline for the prior application this is redemption so there's a window of opportunity including for those who got cut persistence pays..eventually.
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The simulator is ok. Jambo jet guys have been scheduled for Wednesday for their flight test. They sat their psychometric a day after we did our psycho motor yet we haven't even gotten any response and psycho motor results were send to Kq the same day we sat.
Jambo jet is recruiting onto the 737?
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Speaking of jambojet. For people without a type, will they bond you to recoup the training costs or whats the arrangement?
KQ really gets on peoples nerves sometimes. The career connections guy said out-rightly that they did need a quick turn around time and yet now its one week and no response from them whatsoever.
KQ really gets on peoples nerves sometimes. The career connections guy said out-rightly that they did need a quick turn around time and yet now its one week and no response from them whatsoever.
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Jambo jet bonds you. My mate is currently in Canada doing the q400 with them. Almost the same conditions with KQ minus the KQ politics and tests. I concur with you. KQ can leave you a nervous wreck if you don't take care. I don't know how many times I have checked my email . Definitely in the hundreds. I decided to get a life and leave it with the lord since at that rate i was gonna get a heart attack then fail the medical stage if i ever got that far.
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JJ is looking at expanding aggressively and taking some of the carrier's routes hence the priority. Also with their acquisition of the Dash 8 without sufficient pilots is a loss in making and as a LCC that can turn very bad for them!
Remember the Code Sharing agreement signed between the carrier and JJ last year, the carrier now can sell JJ network to passengers coming from across the world also adds to the urgency of them operating to optimum levels!
Canada? wow! that must have costed a bit of a coin for JJ considering ET has a fitted and maintained Q400 Sim trainer from CAE. Also certified by all international agencies!
To all waiting to hear from the carrier, your patience will be tested beyond belief! All the best and good luck to those who have made it into the next stage!
Remember the Code Sharing agreement signed between the carrier and JJ last year, the carrier now can sell JJ network to passengers coming from across the world also adds to the urgency of them operating to optimum levels!
Canada? wow! that must have costed a bit of a coin for JJ considering ET has a fitted and maintained Q400 Sim trainer from CAE. Also certified by all international agencies!
To all waiting to hear from the carrier, your patience will be tested beyond belief! All the best and good luck to those who have made it into the next stage!
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JJ has hired pilots and all flights are crewed on the Q400, with another two sets awaiting to be trained, there will be another delivery some time next month i hear.
Once you purchase a new aircraft, there are various options and solutions you are given and mostly if it a type you don't operate, you choose sim slots as part of the package and they are paid for by Bombardier. Technically the sim is " free " for JJ.
Once you purchase a new aircraft, there are various options and solutions you are given and mostly if it a type you don't operate, you choose sim slots as part of the package and they are paid for by Bombardier. Technically the sim is " free " for JJ.
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Hi Guys,
I am looking to start pilot training in South Africa with the hopes of coming back home to fly with KQ, am therefore looking for advice to help me settle on the right school and the right kind of training. I would glad if any of you gave their 2 cents on a some of the questions that I have:
1. 1st of all Progress/43rd/AVIC. Which on would you guys recommend based on the cost and quality of training
2. 43rd have this programme(iATPL) where you study for a CPL MEIR that includes Jet Orientation training on an A320 or a 737. Would this increas my chances of employement as a DEC
3 Can I be accepted as a DEC with 250hrs accrued during training or do i need to accrue more hours flying commercially on any other machine?
4 Lastly from what I gather is that KCAA requires you to have 250hrs before issuuing you with a Kenyan License, what then happens when you have only accrued say 238 hrs from your training and you need to convert?
Any replies will be highly appreciated. Thanks
I am looking to start pilot training in South Africa with the hopes of coming back home to fly with KQ, am therefore looking for advice to help me settle on the right school and the right kind of training. I would glad if any of you gave their 2 cents on a some of the questions that I have:
1. 1st of all Progress/43rd/AVIC. Which on would you guys recommend based on the cost and quality of training
2. 43rd have this programme(iATPL) where you study for a CPL MEIR that includes Jet Orientation training on an A320 or a 737. Would this increas my chances of employement as a DEC
3 Can I be accepted as a DEC with 250hrs accrued during training or do i need to accrue more hours flying commercially on any other machine?
4 Lastly from what I gather is that KCAA requires you to have 250hrs before issuuing you with a Kenyan License, what then happens when you have only accrued say 238 hrs from your training and you need to convert?
Any replies will be highly appreciated. Thanks
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1. Everyone has different experiences based on their personality, ability to adapt to pressure and change. That being said, a licence is a licence. What gets you the job is your character.
2. A type rating on a jet, without any actual jet time is close to worthless, crazy expensive and expires after 6 months. If you do make it to the national carrier, you'll probably start on the Embraer anyway. So don't waste your money on that. Invest it in a Caravan rating. That might actually find you some work.
3. DEC stands for Direct entry Captain. So..no. Nobody is going to hire you as a captain with 250 hours. You can find work as a first officer in GA or, if you are lucky enough to time it right, the national carrier might be recruiting around the same time you finish your training.
4. You will need to fly another 12 hours. Even if you had 249.5 hours, they would make you fly that extra half hour to make up the difference.
Words of wisdom; KQ is not the only employer in the country. If you truly want to be a pilot, open your mind to other opportunities. There's plenty of adventures to be had and lots of experience to gain in the East African bush. The airline interview is not easy and usually about 1 in 10 people make it. If you fixate on getting an airline job, what happens if you don't make the cut?
2. A type rating on a jet, without any actual jet time is close to worthless, crazy expensive and expires after 6 months. If you do make it to the national carrier, you'll probably start on the Embraer anyway. So don't waste your money on that. Invest it in a Caravan rating. That might actually find you some work.
3. DEC stands for Direct entry Captain. So..no. Nobody is going to hire you as a captain with 250 hours. You can find work as a first officer in GA or, if you are lucky enough to time it right, the national carrier might be recruiting around the same time you finish your training.
4. You will need to fly another 12 hours. Even if you had 249.5 hours, they would make you fly that extra half hour to make up the difference.
Words of wisdom; KQ is not the only employer in the country. If you truly want to be a pilot, open your mind to other opportunities. There's plenty of adventures to be had and lots of experience to gain in the East African bush. The airline interview is not easy and usually about 1 in 10 people make it. If you fixate on getting an airline job, what happens if you don't make the cut?