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About the CRJ-900ERs, they will arrive in October 2012 : RwandAir orders two CRJ-900NGs (Next Generation) with two in options -
About 735s, RwandAir plans to phase out either in 2013 or 2014.
For the 787 it will arrive (if everything goes well) in 2014-2015.
Best Regards
About 735s, RwandAir plans to phase out either in 2013 or 2014.
For the 787 it will arrive (if everything goes well) in 2014-2015.
Best Regards
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9XR-WD Boeing 737-55D 12/80 (92) In Fleet ex-LOT Polish Airlines
9XR-WE Boeing 737-55D 12/80 (92) In Fleet ex-LOT Polish Airlines
- The B737-500 aircraft contain absolutely no Polish language and the QRH's are standard Boeing...In ENGLISH..
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PGP, just because an aircraft used to fly in Poland doesn't mean that all placards and manuals are written in Polish. Additionally, LOT Poland flies throughout Europe where the required aviation language is English. I imagine that all LOT Polish pilots are required by ICAO to have at least a level 4 command of English. In the grand scheme of globalization, goods and services are moved worldwide. Aircraft are no exception. I have flown aircraft that were operated by German, American, Spanish, Mexican, Canadian and Danish airlines previously and all had pertinent information written in English. If you ask your instructor nicely, he will probably show you the original Pilot's Operating Handbook for the Cessna or Cirrus that you are currently flying is written in English. Maybe one day, you can see for yourself that most transport category aircraft have been shuffled from operator to operator, often times with colorful yet completely safe histories. In the meantime, please refrain from attempting to elevate your career and opinion of yourself by slandering random airlines on a public forum.
The same goes for you CaptPlayStation. You "heard" from a colleague unconfirmed BS so you spout it on a public forum, thus attacking a fellow pilot that you claim to have never met? I have not flown the 737-500's in question, nor have I flown with the "Greek Mafia". I do have knowledge the aircraft and crew in question and what was said by your "friend" is complete rubbish. The aircraft are leased from GE Capital and were in good mechanical condition with all manuals in English. The Greek Mafia and CP I know from being "around the block" a few times. Firstly, the guy is a total health nut that runs marathons and doesn't really drink that I've ever seen or heard of. Additionally, I confirmed from some former colleagues that no line training has occurred at RwandAir on the 737 in the last 2 years with the exception of one Captain upgrade who only flew with the 2 or 3 check airmen at the company. There have been a few P2F guys with 700 hours that have come to Africa, both at RwandAir and other operators and didn't last too long. When your first job is as a customer, a good airline pilot it does not make. Perhaps your "friend" found that he had to actually work and be flexible, and rather than Man up and do his job, he whined and complained until he was asked to leave. This HAS happened at RwandAir according to a close colleague and I think it's probably one of your "friends". Real pilots don't try and burn their colleagues. CRM is when two people that completely hate one another can safely fly together. Sounds like some people need a refresher course.
The same goes for you CaptPlayStation. You "heard" from a colleague unconfirmed BS so you spout it on a public forum, thus attacking a fellow pilot that you claim to have never met? I have not flown the 737-500's in question, nor have I flown with the "Greek Mafia". I do have knowledge the aircraft and crew in question and what was said by your "friend" is complete rubbish. The aircraft are leased from GE Capital and were in good mechanical condition with all manuals in English. The Greek Mafia and CP I know from being "around the block" a few times. Firstly, the guy is a total health nut that runs marathons and doesn't really drink that I've ever seen or heard of. Additionally, I confirmed from some former colleagues that no line training has occurred at RwandAir on the 737 in the last 2 years with the exception of one Captain upgrade who only flew with the 2 or 3 check airmen at the company. There have been a few P2F guys with 700 hours that have come to Africa, both at RwandAir and other operators and didn't last too long. When your first job is as a customer, a good airline pilot it does not make. Perhaps your "friend" found that he had to actually work and be flexible, and rather than Man up and do his job, he whined and complained until he was asked to leave. This HAS happened at RwandAir according to a close colleague and I think it's probably one of your "friends". Real pilots don't try and burn their colleagues. CRM is when two people that completely hate one another can safely fly together. Sounds like some people need a refresher course.
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This does not mean that pilot from LOT are not good driver,actually I found them very good pilots better than Lufthansa but.......please we do not wanna talk about English language .
I have to remind you that several times LOT has been delay due the fact pilots could not speak in english .. actually one time have been grounded I think it happen in Heatrow due to the fact pilots could not understand ,incident has been reported in news.
Now say that I repeat I feel safer flying with LOT or Eurolot rather than any other company.
"Polish Pilots Recently a Lot Boeing 737 with ninety-three passengers aboard came within seconds of a midair collision. The plane was being piloted with two Polish-pilots who had not passed the English proficiency exam. The plane was flying into Heathrow Airport when the controllers had advised them with instructions after their instruments became unreliable. The pilots could not understand the controllers' instructions and often deviated from their vectors. Because of the Polish pilots' inability to understand clearly where they were in relationship to the airport, the controllers had to vector another plane instead in order to avoid a mid-air collision. In the final report by the Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB) it states:
“The crew of Lot 282 were not able to communicate adequately the nature and extent of their problem . . .The commander, who was making the radio calls, was not able to understand some of the instructions . . . the initial error by the co-pilot . . .was compounded by the difficulty of obtaining information from the pilots because of their limited command of English ” (Ben Webster, 2008)"
I have to remind you that several times LOT has been delay due the fact pilots could not speak in english .. actually one time have been grounded I think it happen in Heatrow due to the fact pilots could not understand ,incident has been reported in news.
Now say that I repeat I feel safer flying with LOT or Eurolot rather than any other company.
"Polish Pilots Recently a Lot Boeing 737 with ninety-three passengers aboard came within seconds of a midair collision. The plane was being piloted with two Polish-pilots who had not passed the English proficiency exam. The plane was flying into Heathrow Airport when the controllers had advised them with instructions after their instruments became unreliable. The pilots could not understand the controllers' instructions and often deviated from their vectors. Because of the Polish pilots' inability to understand clearly where they were in relationship to the airport, the controllers had to vector another plane instead in order to avoid a mid-air collision. In the final report by the Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB) it states:
“The crew of Lot 282 were not able to communicate adequately the nature and extent of their problem . . .The commander, who was making the radio calls, was not able to understand some of the instructions . . . the initial error by the co-pilot . . .was compounded by the difficulty of obtaining information from the pilots because of their limited command of English ” (Ben Webster, 2008)"
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Do a group of guys that went through flight training together, flew together at their national airline for probably 25 years and now work together in Sub-Saharan Afrika stick together??? What do you think? I've worked in Afrika too. It's not easy and it's a lonely place at times. Can't speak about the nightstops. If you don't like the guys, then why would you want to spend hours in the cockpit together and then a few days in Dubai with them?
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The first one has arrived. The second is to be delivered early to mid November. First CRJ-900 NextGens in Africa.
I'm going to go way out on a limb here and suggest that when Rwandair's CRJ-900 hit the age of Arik's once brand new -900's, they will be in MUCH better condition.
I'm going to go way out on a limb here and suggest that when Rwandair's CRJ-900 hit the age of Arik's once brand new -900's, they will be in MUCH better condition.
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Rwandair Recent news
Its been over a year now since the last post on this thread. Could someone with info please update us on recent news at this airline?Heard new 737 Ng arrived,new routes like Doula, capetown, Harare and even Mumbai in the pipeline Accra up and running Interesting developments I must say.
In particular I am interested in knowing if they currently hire non rwandan f/os on the 737. If yes could someone please share their experience?How many days off in a week can an "expat" f/o get? are two days or more consecutive possible? what is the airline policy regarding jump seats and discount tickets for pilots to african destinations on of days off or leave. thanks in advance.
In particular I am interested in knowing if they currently hire non rwandan f/os on the 737. If yes could someone please share their experience?How many days off in a week can an "expat" f/o get? are two days or more consecutive possible? what is the airline policy regarding jump seats and discount tickets for pilots to african destinations on of days off or leave. thanks in advance.
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Rwandan FO's
Actually a couple months ago I saw in an ad that they were recruiting young Rwandans for a cadet scheme. Those sub 23 year old guys would be sent to the Ethiopian Airlines academy for training and be put directly on the 737-800. Now I know they have African captains and SFO's but Rwandan specifically... No idea.
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737 fleet at RwandAir : 2 B737-800s with the Sky Interrior and 2 B737-700s leased from ILFC ex Air Berlin delivered in 2007
MRO will now perform by Ethiopian Airlines, the current RwandAir chairman is the former Ethiopian Airlines CEO, Girma Wake. The airline is currently working to get IOSA certification (Howard Consultants - aviation consultants, aviation safety management systems, IOSA training, ISAGO training) this year and also to get ETOPS to fly to Mumbai, accoding to Commercial Director, Bert Van Der Stege, but i don't know the current status about the ETOPS.
This year RwandAir will take delivery of a brand new Q400NG and will add 2 B787s by late 2014, but it seems it will be in 2015. 2 formers RAM B787 LN17 / LN19. They have an option for two CRJ-900NGs but they eye C-Series.
About destinations, this year the airline wants to fly to Abidjan, Douala, Khartoum, Lusaka, Harare and Mumbai (dependings ETOPS certification). For 2015, they eye China (Guangzhou) and Europe (either Brussels, London, Amsterdam or Frankfurt).
Currently they fly to Bujumbura, Kilimanjaro, Dar Es Salaam, Juba, Lagos, Accra, Libreville, Nairobi, Brazzaville, Mombasa, Kamembe, Entebbe, Johannesburg and Dubai.
And they had the first Rwandan captain last month, rated on B737NG.
Try to contact them : [email protected]
MRO will now perform by Ethiopian Airlines, the current RwandAir chairman is the former Ethiopian Airlines CEO, Girma Wake. The airline is currently working to get IOSA certification (Howard Consultants - aviation consultants, aviation safety management systems, IOSA training, ISAGO training) this year and also to get ETOPS to fly to Mumbai, accoding to Commercial Director, Bert Van Der Stege, but i don't know the current status about the ETOPS.
This year RwandAir will take delivery of a brand new Q400NG and will add 2 B787s by late 2014, but it seems it will be in 2015. 2 formers RAM B787 LN17 / LN19. They have an option for two CRJ-900NGs but they eye C-Series.
About destinations, this year the airline wants to fly to Abidjan, Douala, Khartoum, Lusaka, Harare and Mumbai (dependings ETOPS certification). For 2015, they eye China (Guangzhou) and Europe (either Brussels, London, Amsterdam or Frankfurt).
Currently they fly to Bujumbura, Kilimanjaro, Dar Es Salaam, Juba, Lagos, Accra, Libreville, Nairobi, Brazzaville, Mombasa, Kamembe, Entebbe, Johannesburg and Dubai.
Now I know they have African captains and SFO's but Rwandan specifically... No idea.
Try to contact them : [email protected]