Senegal airlines a320 crash in bamako
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Ben au fait un ami a vu l'avion a bamako, il a fait une belle sortie de piste sur 80 metre!
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a friend saw the plane in Bamako, he has a great track output on 80 meters beyond the rwy!
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a friend saw the plane in Bamako, he has a great track output on 80 meters beyond the rwy!
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Les observations fournies par les tours de controle sont fiables.Quand ils annoncent TSRA , cette information indique qu'ils ont un Cb dans leur rayon de vue .Le radar a bord sert peut etre a quelque chose si on l'utilise correctement et decider ou non de l'approche
Demander a la tour s'il pleut sur la station et l'etat de la piste leve tout equivoque quand a la conduite a tenir. Aucune meteo ne peut justifier que l'on se pose au milieu d'une piste. Il existe un point de toucher des roues
La compagnie a du etablir des fenetres de stabilisation pour la finale .Si on n'est pas dans ces fenetres !!!! GO AROUND
Demander a la tour s'il pleut sur la station et l'etat de la piste leve tout equivoque quand a la conduite a tenir. Aucune meteo ne peut justifier que l'on se pose au milieu d'une piste. Il existe un point de toucher des roues
La compagnie a du etablir des fenetres de stabilisation pour la finale .Si on n'est pas dans ces fenetres !!!! GO AROUND
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Effectivement ils ont du ne pas du bien gerer leur altitude avec le D.M.E., et au vu de l'atterissage au bout de 1300 m de piste je dirai qu'ils ont du passer le seuil à 250 feet AGL. La piste de Bamako a étée rallongée récemmment de 2706 à 3180m donc en tant normal ils auraient quand même pu s'arrêter. Mais il ya le fait que l'avion était quasi plein et la piste mouillée. Et rien ne précise si le freinage automatique était sur LO MED ou HI, si les reversers ont bien fonctionné, et si la vitesse d'approche n'était pas trop élevée.
La question demeure donc, pourquoi ne pas avoir fait une remise des gaz???
La question demeure donc, pourquoi ne pas avoir fait une remise des gaz???
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Your language is beautiful and you are exceptionally talented, however it is still not the largest language in the world and therefore more people do speak English, therefore please write in it.
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Effectivement ils ont du ne pas du bien gerer leur altitude avec le D.M.E., et au vu de l'atterissage au bout de 1300 m de piste je dirai qu'ils ont du passer le seuil à 250 feet AGL. La piste de Bamako a étée rallongée récemmment de 2706 à 3180m donc en tant normal ils auraient quand même pu s'arrêter. Mais il ya le fait que l'avion était quasi plein et la piste mouillée. Et rien ne précise si le freinage automatique était sur LO MED ou HI, si les reversers ont bien fonctionné, et si la vitesse d'approche n'était pas trop élevée.
La question demeure donc, pourquoi ne pas avoir fait une remise des gaz???
In fact they must have mismanaged their altitude while doing their V.O.R. D.M.E. approach judgng from the fact that they landed over 4000 feet beyond runway theshold. The said runway which has been extende from 8000 to 10000 feet could in theory accomodate such a landing way beyong TDZ. But when you factor in a probable heavy landing weight plus slippery runway, it get can get dangerous. Besides, we do not know (at least yet) if the approach speed was too high, nor if the automatic breaking was on LO MED or HI, and if the reversers were activated.
The question still remains; why didn't they go around??
La question demeure donc, pourquoi ne pas avoir fait une remise des gaz???
In fact they must have mismanaged their altitude while doing their V.O.R. D.M.E. approach judgng from the fact that they landed over 4000 feet beyond runway theshold. The said runway which has been extende from 8000 to 10000 feet could in theory accomodate such a landing way beyong TDZ. But when you factor in a probable heavy landing weight plus slippery runway, it get can get dangerous. Besides, we do not know (at least yet) if the approach speed was too high, nor if the automatic breaking was on LO MED or HI, and if the reversers were activated.
The question still remains; why didn't they go around??
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Senegal airlines
they just don't know ****
no sim check,no interview,most of the pilot dont understand english
i remember one day they were clear at 11000ft for traffic separation and we were clear at 10000ft"so the tower was like "senegal 5 traffic at 1000ft below clear level,and one of the pilot was like"whats the altitude of the other traffic"
im like wtf
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pilots in question
According to my source, and it's a good one, the pilots in question were the chief pilot and an experienced f/o. No names.
A number of my colleagues fly into GABS and according to them the ILS for runway 06 brings you in higher than your normal 3 degree slope. Do we know what runway they were using? 06 or 24? I suppose that's no excuse for touching down halfway down the runway but i can imagine if you're coming in a little bit too fast and too high, and with the runway being wet it could cause some problems.
I'm based in Dakar and get to hear and see Senegal Airlines operate in and out of Dakar everyday. They seem pretty professional to me, based on what i've heard over the radio.
Just my 2c worth!
A number of my colleagues fly into GABS and according to them the ILS for runway 06 brings you in higher than your normal 3 degree slope. Do we know what runway they were using? 06 or 24? I suppose that's no excuse for touching down halfway down the runway but i can imagine if you're coming in a little bit too fast and too high, and with the runway being wet it could cause some problems.
I'm based in Dakar and get to hear and see Senegal Airlines operate in and out of Dakar everyday. They seem pretty professional to me, based on what i've heard over the radio.
Just my 2c worth!
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Most of the Senegal Airlines pilots are former Air Afrique Pilots (Captains and Instructors inclueded), flying worldwide on DC8, DC10, A300B4, A300B6, A310, A330, they also flew with Air Senegal International on B737-700 on international routes.
They are very experienced (more than 9000 hours of flight on jets) and have a strong knowledge in English (ICAO Level 4).
Before being recruited by Senegal Airlines, they went thru interviews (Emirats Airways) and SIM Checks (Ethiopian Airlines A320 Simulator), their SIM checks are up to date.
Just wait for investigations to know what went wrong at GABS.
FYI: I use to fly with those guys when I was at Air Afrique too.
They are very experienced (more than 9000 hours of flight on jets) and have a strong knowledge in English (ICAO Level 4).
Before being recruited by Senegal Airlines, they went thru interviews (Emirats Airways) and SIM Checks (Ethiopian Airlines A320 Simulator), their SIM checks are up to date.
Just wait for investigations to know what went wrong at GABS.
FYI: I use to fly with those guys when I was at Air Afrique too.
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Clearly, in all that accumulated experience and hours they missed the lesson on 'when to go around' was missed.
You guys in the less developed aviation world have got to learn that there is no, I repeat no, problem in going-around; there is no place or any prizes for macho heroics and 'get in at any price' mentalities.
You guys in the less developed aviation world have got to learn that there is no, I repeat no, problem in going-around; there is no place or any prizes for macho heroics and 'get in at any price' mentalities.