SA ATP requirements

[Bob3213]

A lot of confusion about the hours required to do the SA ATP test. Anyone out there who did the test recently who can give some info?

[Propellerpilot]

The Law states the hour requirements quite clearly - what part about it don't you understand ?

[Bob3213]

Thanks PropPilot! Never thought of checking in the law book!
For the JET pilots (note the "jet" part - not "propeller" pilot) can anyone give me some more info? I am too lazy to look it up in a law book because unlike genius here, I dont walk with the law book under my arm.

[Propellerpilot]

Well neither do I - but if you would have been more specific, I probably could have helped you and you would save me some time - instead you become cynical and rude. Enjoy your day too...

[Contract Dog]

Maybe I can help, as a newly founded "jet jock", one of the elite who sit in luxurious bliss on a plane that thinks for you and sneers at the mere site of the unfortunate sods that dare to disgrace the industry by flying sculptures as archaic as a prop driven machine!

As far as I can recall when I did my ATP (as a dumb prop driver at the time, now jet extraordinaire and orgasm specialist) and every test and prof check after that, part of the requirement was to know the law and privileges of the license held and how to obtain it. So like a lowly dog I dragged a law book around till I knew what was potting and then did the test.

Does this help?

Dog

[Shrike200]

Wierdly enough, you have an internet connection, yet have not tried the obvious place - no need for a law book under your arm. So maybe, CAA Website has what you need, since they all seem available there. If not, my mistake. If they are there, I'll pre-emptively call you a doofus now.

[Shrike200]

Ok, check previous post time, check this post time - thats how long it took me to find this, read a lot of other stuff, faff around on the CAA site.......so, not too hard then (I'm sorry about the hideous copy pasta, but I can't be bothered to reformat it ):

Requirements for an Airline Transport Pilot Licence (Aeroplane)

61.07.1 (1) An applicant for an Airline Transport Pilot Licence (Aeroplane) must –



(a) be not less than 21 years of age;



(b)

hold a valid Class 1 medical certificate, issued in terms of Part 67;



(c)

produce evidence of holding or having held, within the previous 60 months, the following –

(i)

a valid South African Private Pilot Licence (Aeroplane); or

(ii)

a valid pilot licence (aeroplane) issued by a Contracting State; or

(iii)

a valid South African Air Force pilot qualification (aeroplane); or

(iv)

a valid Student Pilot Licence where the applicant has completed an integrated training course approved by the Authority; and

(v)

a valid instrument rating;



(d)

have, within the previous 60 months, completed a multi-crew cooperation course;



(e)

have successfully completed the training as prescribed in Document SA-CATS-FCL 61 at an approved Part 141 aviation training organisation;



(f)

have passed the theoretical knowledge examination as prescribed in Document SA-CATS-FCL 61.



(g)

have undergone the skills test referred to in regulation 61.07.4;

(2) An applicant for an Airline Transport Pilot Licence (Aeroplane) must have completed, in aeroplanes, not less than 1500 hours of flight time of which –



(a)

500 hours must be pilot-in-command-under-supervision; or



(b)

250 hours must be as pilot-in-command, of which up to 150 hours may be pilot-in-command-under-supervision; and



(c)

200 hours must be cross-country flight time, of which 100 hours may be as co-pilot or pilot-in-command-under-supervision;



(d)

75 hours must be instrument time, of which not more than 30 hours may be acquired in a flight simulation training device (FSTD) approved for the purpose; and



(e)

100 hours shall be night flight time as pilot-in-command or as co-pilot.

[darkroomsource]

So, by answering his question, which is something he is required to know to pass the test... you've encouraged him to expect to get the answer by asking in a forum.

Can you see him, some time in the future, in a situation like this:

Captain: Engine out procedure, right engine.
F/O: let me go online and ask how to do that on the forum....

[Shrike200]

On the contrary, by the liberal use of references to other parts of the CATS and CARS in the above, I hope I've encouraged our young padawan to have a good ruffle through all that is available in order to better their knowledge. I also encourage a sense of community here, and inspire all seekers of knowledge to ask, no matter how dumb the question, or whether it's blindingly obvious, or that you should know the answer already..... After all, what use would pprune be if we couldn't create opportunities to insult other pilots and/or bash SAA on a routine basis?

[Bob3213]

And when it finally comes to the actual test - must it be on a twin/turbine/certain weight/ect? Or can I use my 182?

[Solid Rust Twotter]