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another pilot willing and posting threads to 'work for free'
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"The reality to me, as I have the multi/single comm + instrument and 300hrs and generally well liked and have not gotten drunk at a bar and told a CP to go F himself, is that this is just a "big stick" contest and nobody is getting hired on their merits other than ass smooching ability."
Getting drunk at the bar is part of the culture as for telling CP's to get F@#$%@ not a good idea. I gave you some advise from someone who has been in your shoes but you told me the comments were retarded.
That is a crap attitude and that is I suspect why you have 300hrs and no job in Maun. As for getting a job on your own merits well at 300hrs you know nothing or as much as the next guy with 300hrs. And if you want a job on your own merits then lets hear what they are, all I can see is a very inexperienced pilot the same as everyone else. Better get used to it in this business mate or you will spend the rest of your life moaning on pprune whilst others overtake you.
So it comes down to would you fit in, do the guys get on with you and does anyone know this guy and is he good to have around. And that is why attitude and contacts are the key. You make contacts on your own merits.
So before you get all frustrated and go typing some load of rubbish in reply which I don't care about. Its not hard to work out who was the American guy in town, infact I'm going to ask some of my mates who are established pilots in Maun what you are like and if you are as well liked as you say. I will let you know
Ragdragger they just don't get it, anyway how is my CV going in your capable hands.
Cheers mate
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"The reality to me, as I have the multi/single comm + instrument and 300hrs and generally well liked and have not gotten drunk at a bar and told a CP to go F himself, is that this is just a "big stick" contest and nobody is getting hired on their merits other than ass smooching ability."
Getting drunk at the bar is part of the culture as for telling CP's to get F@#$%@ not a good idea. I gave you some advise from someone who has been in your shoes but you told me the comments were retarded.
That is a crap attitude and that is I suspect why you have 300hrs and no job in Maun. As for getting a job on your own merits well at 300hrs you know nothing or as much as the next guy with 300hrs. And if you want a job on your own merits then lets hear what they are, all I can see is a very inexperienced pilot the same as everyone else. Better get used to it in this business mate or you will spend the rest of your life moaning on pprune whilst others overtake you.
So it comes down to would you fit in, do the guys get on with you and does anyone know this guy and is he good to have around. And that is why attitude and contacts are the key. You make contacts on your own merits.
So before you get all frustrated and go typing some load of rubbish in reply which I don't care about. Its not hard to work out who was the American guy in town, infact I'm going to ask some of my mates who are established pilots in Maun what you are like and if you are as well liked as you say. I will let you know
Ragdragger they just don't get it, anyway how is my CV going in your capable hands.
Cheers mate
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Lil fly boy - question
It would be a great help if you could run down the DNA sequence of all the guys/gals who have been hired this season in Maun.
Seriously, I am very curious about the experience level of the pilots hired this year. Do you see a trend for more experience year over year?
Mike
Seriously, I am very curious about the experience level of the pilots hired this year. Do you see a trend for more experience year over year?
Mike
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Great days of Delta Flying
I think one of my bitter disappointments in my life,would have been not to have flown in the Okavango Delta(Aer Kavango, Northern Air), being based in Maun. Spending New Year at Phil and Lionel Palmers and throwing flour around the old Duck Inn with Bernadette.
Guys, I was fortunate enough to fly for 4 years in the Delta back in 1989 and had an absolute blast. I sincerely feel that I would have missed out on some of the greatest flying of my Career, had I not gone. Reading this post, it has become obvious that alot more expat pilots are there now, more than the 4 of us in my days there, however if you are thinking of going, my suggestion would be to go!Even if the Okavango does not work out, you have Namibia, Lanseria, Zim, just over the fence, something will happen, but you have to be "Johnnie on the spot". Go get a job at a Safari camp and something will turn up. Just be patient and it will be worth it.
I am now flying the 744 and to this day, it has been the best flying I have done anywhere in the World.
If thinking about it??GO! Great people, great place, just keep it in your pants!You will never forget the experience.
, being based in Maun. Spending New Year at Phil and Lionel Palmers and throwing flour around the old Duck Inn with Bernadette.Guys, I was fortunate enough to fly for 4 years in the Delta back in 1989 and had an absolute blast. I sincerely feel that I would have missed out on some of the greatest flying of my Career, had I not gone. Reading this post, it has become obvious that alot more expat pilots are there now, more than the 4 of us in my days there, however if you are thinking of going, my suggestion would be to go!Even if the Okavango does not work out, you have Namibia, Lanseria, Zim, just over the fence, something will happen, but you have to be "Johnnie on the spot". Go get a job at a Safari camp and something will turn up. Just be patient and it will be worth it.
I am now flying the 744 and to this day, it has been the best flying I have done anywhere in the World.
If thinking about it??GO! Great people, great place, just keep it in your pants!You will never forget the experience.
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You will never forget the experience.
there is a guy down here who hasn't had a job ever ( he is now 29 ) and got a job in 2 days.
what a crock o S**#(
unfortunately I would say that Nam and Zim are basically out of the picture. Though Ill be leaving in 2 days to hit them I wouldn't be surprised to find unattainable hours required and the need to speak German or have an AP license.
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You just confirmed what I suspected soakingpilot, when you go to where ever you go next just remember they will know you and your attitude from your postings on pprune. Its a small world and mate you are not helping yourself spouting on here.
Leave the attitude out of your luggage when you pack, aviation is filled with disappointment just take it like you are 29 not 9 years of age.
Leave the attitude out of your luggage when you pack, aviation is filled with disappointment just take it like you are 29 not 9 years of age.
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Converting to Zim licence is a hand stand. They will mess you around and unless you have a residence permit or get a job with a company that has support from a influential party official, you will be fighting a losing battle. They will also drag their heels in releasing exam results....some times up to three months!!
SOLENTA operate in Zim and had to get Zim residents that had SA licences to fly for them.
SOLENTA operate in Zim and had to get Zim residents that had SA licences to fly for them.
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noone said it would be easy, but it is worthwhile to hang in there. The only thing I could not condone is guys going there and selling their souls and working for nothing!(I think I read in a previous post). That is Bull.... and should never happen. Our industry is full of low lifes like these, who will destroy our livelihoods.
Go and good luck. If you cannot find a job straight away, go work for Mike Gunn or Pete Sandenburg(If still there) they"ll look after you.
Go and good luck. If you cannot find a job straight away, go work for Mike Gunn or Pete Sandenburg(If still there) they"ll look after you.
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I just spoke to a couple of mates in maun and they said many of the pilots looking for work are a bunch of tossers and they would only want to have a beer with about ten of them.
Soakingpilot,
You said you were generally well liked, well it turns out that is not accurate, you were described as a C#$K. Now you see what a poor attitude does to your chances, its not about the flying mate.
Soakingpilot,
You said you were generally well liked, well it turns out that is not accurate, you were described as a C#$K. Now you see what a poor attitude does to your chances, its not about the flying mate.
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I'm in Windhoek, talking with a friend who was there, then here, now back in Maun. He says it's saturated, there are still twenty waiting, and it's very unlikely that all 19 of the new hires will washout, especially since half were hired before December.
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Hi Darkroomsource
I have a query. I have FAA CPL. Im in a processing of getting endorsement in 206. Also applying for Botswana visa too.
In order to qualify for validation in C206 in Botswana, do i need to have SE CPL ?
I mean I have
SE C172 PPL,
ME BE76 PPL, ME BE76 Instruments and ME BE76 CPL.
Flight schools from USA says that I need to do first SE CPL either in 206 or in C172. If I do CPL in C172 then my endorsement would be valid for C206 for compensation and hire rule.
I was thinking if I could just get endorsement in C206 only and not SE CPL, will this be valid at Botswana?
I have a query. I have FAA CPL. Im in a processing of getting endorsement in 206. Also applying for Botswana visa too.
In order to qualify for validation in C206 in Botswana, do i need to have SE CPL ?
I mean I have
SE C172 PPL,
ME BE76 PPL, ME BE76 Instruments and ME BE76 CPL.
Flight schools from USA says that I need to do first SE CPL either in 206 or in C172. If I do CPL in C172 then my endorsement would be valid for C206 for compensation and hire rule.
I was thinking if I could just get endorsement in C206 only and not SE CPL, will this be valid at Botswana?
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Windhoek, Namibia.
Dead.
Everyone has already hired, and they can't get visas for any of the new hires. The government wants 2000 TT before they will issue a visa or permit. Pilots are being grounded, and some are being sent home to their home country.
According to one Chief Pilot, "we are full, and if we do get an opening, we have already interviewed three Namibian pilots, and they have already passed the tests, and will be the first ones we hire if we do get an opening, and then we have an additional five more Namibian pilots to interview, then we have to place a full page add in the newspaper, and interview any other Namibians before we can even interview foreigners. And then we have to have foreigners with more than 2000 total time before we can get a visa or work permit for them. When I first came here, it took one or two weeks to get a visa and six months for a permit, it's just not like that any longer."
I quoted this, because it is as close to word for word what I wrote down as notes of what he said as soon as I left his office.
Dead.
Everyone has already hired, and they can't get visas for any of the new hires. The government wants 2000 TT before they will issue a visa or permit. Pilots are being grounded, and some are being sent home to their home country.
According to one Chief Pilot, "we are full, and if we do get an opening, we have already interviewed three Namibian pilots, and they have already passed the tests, and will be the first ones we hire if we do get an opening, and then we have an additional five more Namibian pilots to interview, then we have to place a full page add in the newspaper, and interview any other Namibians before we can even interview foreigners. And then we have to have foreigners with more than 2000 total time before we can get a visa or work permit for them. When I first came here, it took one or two weeks to get a visa and six months for a permit, it's just not like that any longer."
I quoted this, because it is as close to word for word what I wrote down as notes of what he said as soon as I left his office.
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CFI?
Hi All,
I'm discouraged to learn of the visa situation. Earlier I had read a post saying that this is just the government "flexing their muscles" so maybe things will change in the future. My plan was to head to Bots and Nam at the end of 2011.
Supposing things do change, do you think a CFI rating would help or hurt one's chances of getting a job? I know some outfits in Indonesia don't like to hire overqualified individuals and I'm wondering if the same is true in Africa. It's also a big expense that could be put toward my savings for the trip.
Thanks!
270 TT
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I'm discouraged to learn of the visa situation. Earlier I had read a post saying that this is just the government "flexing their muscles" so maybe things will change in the future. My plan was to head to Bots and Nam at the end of 2011.
Supposing things do change, do you think a CFI rating would help or hurt one's chances of getting a job? I know some outfits in Indonesia don't like to hire overqualified individuals and I'm wondering if the same is true in Africa. It's also a big expense that could be put toward my savings for the trip.
Thanks!
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Morning All,
Does anyone have any info on what the situation down in Bots is at present, hiring-wise and regards the overall economy/demand? I guess the typical hiring season is coming to a close - were most guys/girls who made their way out there successful?
Fly safe - Cheers!
fbw380
Does anyone have any info on what the situation down in Bots is at present, hiring-wise and regards the overall economy/demand? I guess the typical hiring season is coming to a close - were most guys/girls who made their way out there successful?
Fly safe - Cheers
!fbw380
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It might make a slight difference with some companies if you had some time instructing but generally will not add anything otherwise. And I don't think you will be over qualified at 270TT with or without CFI rating.
It might make a slight difference with some companies if you had some time instructing but generally will not add anything otherwise. And I don't think you will be over qualified at 270TT with or without CFI rating.