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Maun, Botswana. The essential guide.

Old 25th Aug 2018, 09:20
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Hi,
Any potential for wives / girlfriends to find teaching positions anywhere around Maun..
Thanks
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Old 26th Aug 2018, 10:04
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Originally Posted by bombaydude
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Any potential for wives / girlfriends to find teaching positions anywhere around Maun..
Thanks
I believe, but stand to be corrected, that getting work permits as a foreign teacher is more difficult than getting work permits as a foreign pilot.
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Old 26th Aug 2018, 18:05
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How about as a doctor? My wife wants to go to Africa for a year to work and I can take a sabbatical year from work (easyJet). I have an ATPL but most of my 2500 hours are on the A320, is that interesting for these type of operators?
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Old 27th Aug 2018, 10:28
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Originally Posted by K.Loggins
How about as a doctor? My wife wants to go to Africa for a year to work and I can take a sabbatical year from work (easyJet). I have an ATPL but most of my 2500 hours are on the A320, is that interesting for these type of operators?
There are the odd airline guys now and then appearing on the bush scenery sometimes also for sabbatical... however I would think your personal CV does play a hugh role - without PIC hours and at least some commercial experience in small aircraft and operating in and out of gravel, it will be harder. So I would think you would have the same value as a guy fresh from flight-school - A320 experience is kind of from another universe. If your intention is to leave after 12-months, your chances will be very slim, as there is no value investing in you. As you still seem young, I would stay persuing my career on the A320 to be honest - going to Africa will adversely disrupt or affect your chosen path.

Apart from that, I can also advise not to make such career decisions according to please "the Mrs".
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Old 27th Aug 2018, 11:41
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Haha,

sound advice PP, however that’s the deal we made. She is an idealist and I am also up for adventure. It will set up her residency spot in gynaecology back home in Holland.

EasyJet is very accommodating and the only effect it will have on my career is that it will delay my command by 11 months. I can put in a good 10 months work, what’s the average turnover in crew in these sort of places? We intend to do this for several months a year after the sabbatical as well. I have some experience operating 206 but only around 200 hours on short runways. Not gravel, just grass.
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Old 27th Aug 2018, 12:00
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Originally Posted by K.Loggins
Haha,

sound advice PP, however that’s the deal we made. She is an idealist and I am also up for adventure. It will set up her residency spot in gynaecology back home in Holland.

EasyJet is very accommodating and the only effect it will have on my career is that it will delay my command by 11 months. I can put in a good 10 months work, what’s the average turnover in crew in these sort of places? We intend to do this for several months a year after the sabbatical as well. I have some experience operating 206 but only around 200 hours on short runways. Not gravel, just grass.
Those C206 hours are your best friend in Maun...

I have left the bush for Europe 10years ago, would also go back to go flying there from time to time - but BizAv is keeping me busy... On vacation, it took me a couple of circuits more than expected to get used to the C210 in which I have 1000hrs+ again.

The only way you find out, is to physically go to the operators and knock on their doors... forget sending CV's... but that is nothing new.
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Old 28th Aug 2018, 00:06
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Type rating C208

Anyone know what is the minimum time to be considered "type Ranting " for the Caravan ? I am going to get the initial training in a country that this airplane don't require a rating

Thank you
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Old 28th Aug 2018, 17:50
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Originally Posted by K.Loggins
How about as a doctor? My wife wants to go to Africa for a year to work and I can take a sabbatical year from work (easyJet). I have an ATPL but most of my 2500 hours are on the A320, is that interesting for these type of operators?
There was a Bush Pilots TV show and one of the pilots was a Brit with similar times and airline experience as you. He moved to Africa to be closer to his sis, and he easily got hired. As far as your wife, I'm in the same boat. My wife worked in Kenya in global health, through the university she was with at the time. She is an MD(American) now and we have been thinking about going back to East Africa. But she would have to work for a U.S. government agency to make decent money, or volunteer. She does have British citizenship as well but I don't think that helps in this case. I'm assuming the both of your are Dutch, so maybe there is a Dutch government or university program for doctors in East Africa. but if money is no issue, then I'm sure she can find some volunteer work pretty easily.
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Originally Posted by K.Loggins
Haha,

sound advice PP, however that’s the deal we made. She is an idealist and I am also up for adventure. It will set up her residency spot in gynaecology back home in Holland.

EasyJet is very accommodating and the only effect it will have on my career is that it will delay my command by 11 months. I can put in a good 10 months work, what’s the average turnover in crew in these sort of places? We intend to do this for several months a year after the sabbatical as well. I have some experience operating 206 but only around 200 hours on short runways. Not gravel, just grass.
It can easily take 3 months for your validation and work permits to be granted, so you'd only be left with 9 months of use to the companies. That's assuming you get a job as soon as you arrive and the company has the capacity to train you while you're waiting for the paperwork, which isn't always the case.

Realistically, most companies won't invest the effort in you for only 9 months of flying... but you could always not mention that you have a leaving date and say you plan to finish a 2 year contract. Expect to pay a bond for leaving before finishing the contract.

Not trying to discourage you - just being honest.

As for landing a job, your airbus time might as well not exist. However, having C206 time helps with the paperwork a lot. Times have changed since the TV show. People are getting job offers via email/skype with some companies now. Particularly if you've got an SET and/or C208 rating (but time on other types the companies operate is favourable)
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Originally Posted by K.Loggins
How about as a doctor? My wife wants to go to Africa for a year to work and I can take a sabbatical year from work (easyJet). I have an ATPL but most of my 2500 hours are on the A320, is that interesting for these type of operators?
You have a pm
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Old 1st Sep 2018, 15:35
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Originally Posted by Propellerpilot
The only way you find out, is to physically go to the operators and knock on their doors... forget sending CV's... but that is nothing new.
Not anymore...if your cv looks interesting the company you apply for most probably will ask you to came here in Maun for an assessment week. The time of waiting for months and knocking to the company’s door is almost finish...
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Old 2nd Sep 2018, 00:25
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Originally Posted by abezzi

Not anymore...if your cv looks interesting the company you apply for most probably will ask you to came here in Maun for an assessment week. The time of waiting for months and knocking to the company’s door is almost finish...
How are the assessment ?

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Old 2nd Sep 2018, 08:27
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Originally Posted by abezzi

Not anymore...if your cv looks interesting the company you apply for most probably will ask you to came here in Maun for an assessment week. The time of waiting for months and knocking to the company’s door is almost finish...
That is honestly good to hear that companies are making such efforts by not wasting people's time and resources... it was always kind of a risk you had to take back in my days.

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Old 4th Sep 2018, 08:34
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Originally Posted by abezzi

Not anymore...if your cv looks interesting the company you apply for most probably will ask you to came here in Maun for an assessment week. The time of waiting for months and knocking to the company’s door is almost finish...
Great news...just where do we apply?
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Old 7th Sep 2018, 15:40
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Originally Posted by jakekenobi
Great news...just where do we apply?
That is the first test...you must find by yourself!😄😄😄
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Wilderness Air have just posted an advert on their Facebook page, applications opened on the 7th and close on the 24th September 2018, reference number WAIR-BOTS013.

Qualifications
850 hours Experience or more
C208 Rating or Turbine experience would added advantage


That is a straight copy of part of the advert.

Good luck to one and all.
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Old 14th Sep 2018, 13:49
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Not too long ago Wilderness was hiring 200 hr pilots, now they want guys with 850 hrs plus a Van rating? Cathay will take you on at 250 hrs.
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Old 16th Sep 2018, 12:11
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Originally Posted by abezzi

That is the first test...you must find by yourself!😄😄😄
Good one. Shush I am not me.
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Old 20th Sep 2018, 14:17
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Originally Posted by Oddball77
Not too long ago Wilderness was hiring 200 hr pilots, now they want guys with 850 hrs plus a Van rating? Cathay will take you on at 250 hrs.
This is not a Wilderness requirement, let's say that expat pilots with less than 500hrs have zero chances to get a working permit, 800hrs is even better! Nowadays when companies are looking to hire junior pilots they take them from the local schools, no more 250hrs expat jobs available in Botswana!
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Hi guys,

Are the operators in Bots, when advertising for Caravan drivers, wanting someone just for the Caravans or are pilots also expected to fly other types also? GA8, C206 etc...

If so, does anyone know how much/often a Caravan pilot would do in other types?

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