Payday at Arik Air
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Pay Day Debt Bug
Oba1, don't tell me the pay day bug made it into 2011, i had gathered that they got an exterminator to stop the spread late last year. Guess i was mis-informed.
Since the debt bug is still alive, I wonder if the bug will spread to the new frequent flyer program, imagine Arik owing pax airmiles, now that's priceless! Where's my mastercard?
Since the debt bug is still alive, I wonder if the bug will spread to the new frequent flyer program, imagine Arik owing pax airmiles, now that's priceless! Where's my mastercard?
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At the end almost everybody passes the IOSA-Audit. You pay for it and you are the valued "Customer". After the correction of the findings, I am sure there are a few, you will receive the Plaque and you achieved something for sure. It is a step towards "barking with the big Dog´s". I hope the people in the Board know that and bring that message down to the bottom as well. After the certification is received / achieved it is imperative not to rest from now on. It is needed to satiesfy it in the daily work, again and again. This Industry does not sleep, never. When you slow down your competetor is ready to take you on, 24/7.
I attended a few Audits the past 10 years, the "Ceremony" is mostly the same. The items on the checklist are worked thru and the findings are collected and given at the outbriefing. Then the homework starts and the corrective action takes place. Thereafter the decoration takes place. After all not too bad because it raises the standarts and sheds light in the often forgotten loopholes when you work in the same invironment for years.
I am glad they try develop futher and rise by the challenge. Let me know when they are off the track with 8/2 or 8/4 regime. B777´s not on the wishlist anymore ?.....
Time to pay on time as well, bills running everywhere, Kid´s need to be fed, schools need to be paid and and and.... responsibility is a wide range.
Fly safe and land happy
NG
I attended a few Audits the past 10 years, the "Ceremony" is mostly the same. The items on the checklist are worked thru and the findings are collected and given at the outbriefing. Then the homework starts and the corrective action takes place. Thereafter the decoration takes place. After all not too bad because it raises the standarts and sheds light in the often forgotten loopholes when you work in the same invironment for years.
I am glad they try develop futher and rise by the challenge. Let me know when they are off the track with 8/2 or 8/4 regime. B777´s not on the wishlist anymore ?.....
Time to pay on time as well, bills running everywhere, Kid´s need to be fed, schools need to be paid and and and.... responsibility is a wide range.
Fly safe and land happy
NG
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Contemplating going to Arik on the B-737. Is pay still not a guarentee their? What is going on with the program as of today?
Yes, it's just like Nebraska. Pay is always on time... don't listen to these Pollyannas. They're just making stuff up to scare you away from Africa's Favourite Airline ! (formerly known as the Emirates of Africa).
All is well... until you step off the plane for the first time in LOS !!!!
Contemplating going to Arik on the B-737. Is pay still not a guarentee their? What is going on with the program as of today?
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<chirp chirp>
What is the big deal?
The mortgage bank completely understands Arik's position.
Car payments? Optional.
Food for the family? That is their problem!
It's all about quality of life ... just not yours.
The mortgage bank completely understands Arik's position.
Car payments? Optional.
Food for the family? That is their problem!
It's all about quality of life ... just not yours.
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Bannanas
The issue is not and never has been No Pay. The issue has been late pay. When an employer, especially a Nigerian employer does not pay on time, the question becomes, "will I be paid at all?" In many Nigerian companies, the goal is to be so late with pay, that the employee begins to worry if the current month will be paid. If the employee is foolish enough to allow that, the employer has him right where he wants him. If you quit, the employer keeps two months wages. If you stay, he gets another month out of you. Maybe free. When Arik was 20 days late in July of 2010, many pilots realized that if they continued to fly, they'd be in this box. They stopped flying and the fat man paid. Now, if the pay is more than 5 or 10 days late, pilots just don't answer their phones when scheduling calls.
Believe me, when a better job appears, Arik pilots disappear. 60+% turnover per year in the expat group. And yes, locals are leaving too.
The issue is not and never has been No Pay. The issue has been late pay. When an employer, especially a Nigerian employer does not pay on time, the question becomes, "will I be paid at all?" In many Nigerian companies, the goal is to be so late with pay, that the employee begins to worry if the current month will be paid. If the employee is foolish enough to allow that, the employer has him right where he wants him. If you quit, the employer keeps two months wages. If you stay, he gets another month out of you. Maybe free. When Arik was 20 days late in July of 2010, many pilots realized that if they continued to fly, they'd be in this box. They stopped flying and the fat man paid. Now, if the pay is more than 5 or 10 days late, pilots just don't answer their phones when scheduling calls.
Believe me, when a better job appears, Arik pilots disappear. 60+% turnover per year in the expat group. And yes, locals are leaving too.
The issue is not and never has been No Pay. The issue has been late pay.
IMHO, late pay is almost as bad as no pay. Everyone has bills that need to be paid on contacted dates. Yes, a lot of organisations may be sympathetic to your plight but one shouldn't have to go through this. If your contact says you are paid on X date of each month, that's when you should get it.
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<silence> Zero communication. How about an email, text message, singing telegram, smoke signal, aerial banner...something?
Always the pillars of class at Arik. If you think back to last summer, when Dr.M sent out a letter with loads of bull**** concerning late pay? Completely useless exercise, because nobody believed the contents, and you still didn't have your money on time.
The same kind of letter that was sent out about Jason Holt leaving. The letter actually said that Jason Holt was only supposed to be at Arik for six months to get the Q400 program going (Jason being a rated A340 captain). Complete bull****, so why bother?
Don't forget the letter you got in December saying you'd get paid on time, and you did !!! Twice in one year !!!
In reality, I get more upset when people send bull**** letters, rather than just stating the facts. Arik is not capable of expressing facts about anything. Always bull****, and no or late payments.
It's time to stop answering the phone.
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Check This Out
This was spotted in todays Tribune newspaper,Guess who?lol,
Tension mounts between airline operators, FAAN •Over plans to allocate GAT to carrier
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Written by Shola Adekola, Lagos Thursday, 10 February 2011
Tension is mounting between Airline Operators of Nigeria (AON) and the Federal Airports Authority of Nigeria (FAAN) over the controversial decision to solely hand over the General Aviation Terminal (GAT) to one of the domestic carriers to upgrade and use.
The Nigerian Tribune gathered that trouble started when news filtered into the industry that FAAN had been directed by the government to hand over the GAT, which had hitherto been a bone of contention between FAAN and Bi-Courtney to the airline in question.
According to information gathered, as of Wednesday, the domestic operators had started putting heads together to frustrate the development on the excuse that the decision contradicted the civil aviation policy, which opposed any airline owing a terminal to itself.
Following the governments directive, all the domestic carriers operating at the GAT have been ordered to vacate their offices at the terminal and move to the terminal at the MMA2 being run by Bi-Courtney.
All the domestic airlines have vowed to oppose the move on the ground that government should not continue to heat up the polity among the airlines, which already have enough troubles at hand, even as their umbrella body, AON, has ordered members to disregard the directive.
While the airlines took a swipe at the government’s intention, which they said was capable of causing disaffection among the domestic carriers, they queried why government should continue to over protect one airline at the expense of others.
The airlines declared that government was taking it too far as they alleged that the same government had earlier granted a waiver running to billions of naira to the same airline, while others were dying gradually, without governments support.
Tension mounts between airline operators, FAAN •Over plans to allocate GAT to carrier | Print | E-mail
Written by Shola Adekola, Lagos Thursday, 10 February 2011
Tension is mounting between Airline Operators of Nigeria (AON) and the Federal Airports Authority of Nigeria (FAAN) over the controversial decision to solely hand over the General Aviation Terminal (GAT) to one of the domestic carriers to upgrade and use.
The Nigerian Tribune gathered that trouble started when news filtered into the industry that FAAN had been directed by the government to hand over the GAT, which had hitherto been a bone of contention between FAAN and Bi-Courtney to the airline in question.
According to information gathered, as of Wednesday, the domestic operators had started putting heads together to frustrate the development on the excuse that the decision contradicted the civil aviation policy, which opposed any airline owing a terminal to itself.
Following the governments directive, all the domestic carriers operating at the GAT have been ordered to vacate their offices at the terminal and move to the terminal at the MMA2 being run by Bi-Courtney.
All the domestic airlines have vowed to oppose the move on the ground that government should not continue to heat up the polity among the airlines, which already have enough troubles at hand, even as their umbrella body, AON, has ordered members to disregard the directive.
While the airlines took a swipe at the government’s intention, which they said was capable of causing disaffection among the domestic carriers, they queried why government should continue to over protect one airline at the expense of others.
The airlines declared that government was taking it too far as they alleged that the same government had earlier granted a waiver running to billions of naira to the same airline, while others were dying gradually, without governments support.
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Get Away
I read this topic from time to time. So many messages to criticize and not build anything that becomes boring. I think you should all leave this company that is one of the best maintained in Africa by the guys of Lufthansa. The fleet is the youngest of the surroundings. Airline pilots come from everywhere and the skill level is higher than many companies. So yes you are in Africa and there are minor problems of management. But today, the best contract airline pilot in the world, it is with Arik and not elsewhere. Go home. Go suck your vanilla ice cream and take your two thousand dollars per month. Africa does not need expert review. Africans need altruistic people who love them. The detractors professionals paid by other airlines should sweep at home. Signed: an old fart white man.
