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One AN 26 reg 3X-GDI (Guinea) has recently been seen flying in Chad between Ndjamena and Abeche. Its poor takeoff performance indicates the engines are washed out. Guinea CA states that this bird has been deregistered from their books since 2003 (not airworthy no insurance…) and asks in vain Chad CA to stop it. There is another AN 26 in Afghanistan with same reg 3X-GDI but different paint scheme. Poor Africa…
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This picture above has been taken recently in Afghanistan. But the one in Chad with same reg 3X-GDI is plain white and it is quite an old paintwork. So I believe it is not the same bird. As if there were several AN 26 with a single registration. Funny, isn'it ?
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Apparently it carries UN staff. This is the only business in Aviation in Eastern Chad. Local operator is said to be a Chadian business man, probably well connected with Chad CA as this plane was still flying last week. He got the job because saving on insurance, maintenance and everything, he could offer nice fares. And the owner must be shrouded in mystery somewhere between Kakoul and Ndjamena...
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JB, you seem like you have a vested interest in this a/c getting shamed, why? they got the contract you were gunning for? put your name to it if you going to throw their name???
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Makes no difference. If the aircraft registration is shady the operators are shady. It is the DUTY of every aviator to expose dangers to the flying public. The UN, individual national foreign service organizations, applicable relief agencies, as well as the media must be alerted before the probable disaster occurs.
If the operator is above board, they can publicly defend themselves.
BTW this is an aviation rumor network. Perfect forum for initiating such public information. Anonymity is understandable and acceptable IMO.
If the operator is above board, they can publicly defend themselves.
BTW this is an aviation rumor network. Perfect forum for initiating such public information. Anonymity is understandable and acceptable IMO.
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ALL of it.....
You can post here, and, advise the authorities. You do everything you can to prevent DEATH. As for the 748, it could not have hurt to have posted here, but it should not have ended with just a PPRUNE post.
“Authorities" in Africa are often bought off. Some on constant payroll of certain commercial endeavors. Even if they are not corrupt they may be slow in action. Most of the time you cannot combat this by notifying the "authorities" alone. You must "Notify" those whom stand to loose. Generally that is the people paying or otherwise using the shoddy aeronautical enterprise.
The more people that know, the better. Notifying the “authorities” alone is simply not enough.
“Authorities" in Africa are often bought off. Some on constant payroll of certain commercial endeavors. Even if they are not corrupt they may be slow in action. Most of the time you cannot combat this by notifying the "authorities" alone. You must "Notify" those whom stand to loose. Generally that is the people paying or otherwise using the shoddy aeronautical enterprise.
The more people that know, the better. Notifying the “authorities” alone is simply not enough.
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Apparently it carries UN staff
My then colleague wanted to buy an African Grey parrot for the pilot house and he promptly went over to the IL-76 crew who were also flying for the UN to ask for a favor. He wanted to them to buy an African Grey parrot in the north east of Angola on their next trip during the week. They invited him in and offered him a vodka or two at 10am. My friend declined the vodka and showed them his walkie-talkie , he said he was on standby and asked them to get him a grey parrot on their next trip. The conversation got involved and more vodka flowed when all of a sudden the drinking stopped and the IL-76 crew got up and walked out. My friend asked if this was inconvenient time and apologized for interrupting their socializing time in UN camp.
The captain turned around and said " No Problem, we fly now and fetch the bird" and so they did. 6pm there was an African grey parrot in the house!
The point is, anything is possible in Africa
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Africa has its own rules, learn to abide with them and no one gets hurt, no use trying to bring in rules that will not fit in with Africa. Things may look nackered but they work.
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You couldn't have found better example. Weird registration, not airworthy, no maitenance, cheating CAA... Only difference, they have already crossed the finishing line. So let me insist again: "a few words in Pprune..."
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3X-GDI belongs to Oleg Baranov and Gennady Ganeev, two crooks that cheated a lot of people in the aviation. They are based in Sharjah, UAE
Aircraft is contracted by Supreme Group an American foodstuff company and operates for UN but more for DOD
The aircraft has been grounded once by Tchad CAA, but looks like SUPREME people gave some money to the authorities, and the aircraft is flying again.
The aircraft have no legal documents and the pilots flying it are real kamikaze.
SUPREME group was warned several times, that they use some aircraft in Afghanistan and Africa that have not either airworthiness or even legal registration, but the guys are flying so high, that they do not care about flight safety and reputation. It looks really strange, as they operate for US Government. Another planes that they use from the same owner are 3X-GDP, 3X-GEL, 3X-GEV. All An-26s.
CAA of Guinea (Country of registration is trying to stop the planes from operation, but CAA of Chad also does not care) Look the letter from CAA Guinee below:
A Monsieur le DG,
Suite a votre mail relatif aux infos sur l'a?ronef AN 26 immatricul? 3X-GDI, j'ai l'honneur de vous informer de ce qui suivent:
- a?ronef AN 26 immatricul? 3X - GDI tout comme L'AN 26 immaticul? 3X -GDP ont
?t? radi?s du registre d'immatriculation de la Guin?e depuis Juillet 2003.
- Ses immatriculations n'exitent sous aucun N de seri? de AN 26 ou autres.
- La Compagnie GALEX Guin?e qui utilisait ses a?ronefs n'a plus d'agrement
d'exploitation en Guin?e et aucun a?ronef enregistr? en son nom depuis le 06
d?cembre 2007,
Je vous saurais gr? de bien vouloir en informer l'Autorit? de L'Aviation Civile Thadienne pour les mesures reglementaires a prendre pour l'arr?t immediat de cet a?ronef ou de ces a?ronefs. SVP communiquer nous le contact de l'AAC du Thad.
Merci pour votre bonne collaboration.
DIAKITE SEKOU
Chef de Division Navigation Aerienne et Infratstructure
DNAC - GUINEE
Aircraft is contracted by Supreme Group an American foodstuff company and operates for UN but more for DOD
The aircraft has been grounded once by Tchad CAA, but looks like SUPREME people gave some money to the authorities, and the aircraft is flying again.
The aircraft have no legal documents and the pilots flying it are real kamikaze.
SUPREME group was warned several times, that they use some aircraft in Afghanistan and Africa that have not either airworthiness or even legal registration, but the guys are flying so high, that they do not care about flight safety and reputation. It looks really strange, as they operate for US Government. Another planes that they use from the same owner are 3X-GDP, 3X-GEL, 3X-GEV. All An-26s.
CAA of Guinea (Country of registration is trying to stop the planes from operation, but CAA of Chad also does not care) Look the letter from CAA Guinee below:
A Monsieur le DG,
Suite a votre mail relatif aux infos sur l'a?ronef AN 26 immatricul? 3X-GDI, j'ai l'honneur de vous informer de ce qui suivent:
- a?ronef AN 26 immatricul? 3X - GDI tout comme L'AN 26 immaticul? 3X -GDP ont
?t? radi?s du registre d'immatriculation de la Guin?e depuis Juillet 2003.
- Ses immatriculations n'exitent sous aucun N de seri? de AN 26 ou autres.
- La Compagnie GALEX Guin?e qui utilisait ses a?ronefs n'a plus d'agrement
d'exploitation en Guin?e et aucun a?ronef enregistr? en son nom depuis le 06
d?cembre 2007,
Je vous saurais gr? de bien vouloir en informer l'Autorit? de L'Aviation Civile Thadienne pour les mesures reglementaires a prendre pour l'arr?t immediat de cet a?ronef ou de ces a?ronefs. SVP communiquer nous le contact de l'AAC du Thad.
Merci pour votre bonne collaboration.
DIAKITE SEKOU
Chef de Division Navigation Aerienne et Infratstructure
DNAC - GUINEE
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Use a truck !
My conclusion: the poor old bird should rest in peace in a museum, the criminals should sleep in jail, UN should use trucks (even with fake documents) and villages next to Chadian runways would be safer!