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Old 29th Jan 2010, 14:09
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SAA Recruitment

Hi Guys. Anybody have any idea when SAA is planning to start recruiting again and how many?
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Old 30th Jan 2010, 05:49
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Not sure how many at the moment but a fair few I believe. First batch to commence course in Feb. Believe that it's mostly cadets from SAX and Link to start off......
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The Chief Pilot stated in a recent public flight operations article that SAA will require 231 new pilots purely to meet expansion plans by the end of 2011. This would be a net gain in pilot numbers as they would also need to fill vacancies left by illness, retirements and dismissals.
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So does that mean that like Kenya Airways, Air Botswana and EAA, they will recruit from outside South Africa but inside Africa, and possibly even the Caribbean in order to have type rated pilots flying for them which would keep the initial training costs down as well as being non reflectively politically correct? Or is that nothing but the rumour?
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So does that mean that like Kenya Airways, Air Botswana and EAA, they will recruit from outside South Africa but inside Africa...as well as being non reflectively politically correct?
By Law (The Constitution), one can only be credited for a PDI (for Government Compliance) if the individual is a South African Citizen or was eligible to become one before 1994.

Sure, there might be one or two that slip through the cracks, but do not expect an influx from outside our borders, in order to get the numbers right.

The Chief Pilot's article also adresses the way forward for SAA, SAAF and the Government in this regard... MPL = Yes
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So anyone have any idea when they will start accepting applications again. The website says they aren't accepting CV's at the moment.
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So anyone have any idea when they will start accepting applications again.
The article also says that SAA expects to end 2010 with an excess of 78 Pilots due to the exit of 6 A340-200's as well as 2 B747-400's. This excess should be re-accommodated with the introduction of A330's during 2011.

My guess - not before 2011
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IMHO gotta be the best job out there here in RSA!
International routes, nearly competitive international salaries,( best of the lot here),new metal being introduced.
If you wanna stay in RSA, what better place to be?

ps: not working there yet!
stay positive.
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2700 hours on 320... may I just encourage you to hang in there with your hopes. You might just need to add an SA comm or ATP to those hopes and you should be fine. JAR atp on its own won't work afaik. Then obviously the whole interview process is next on the cards. I doubt that they'll be legally able to look at you until you get the SA licence. Write the exams, do the flight test in a seneca/etc or hire their sim (the one you're rated on..). You won't be the first to do it this way and not the last. It's also a myth that you'll need to visit a skin cancer booth, so don't let yourself be held up by what others say. Best wishes to you and the others who posted above.
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News 24 on SAA

Cape Town - Despite its financial difficulties, South African Airways (SAA) is forking out R307m in sport-related sponsorships over four years, according to Public Enterprises Minister Barbara Hogan.

Replying to a parliamentary question by the Democratic Alliance's Donald Lee, Hogan said SAA was sponsoring Argentine golfer Angel Cabrera for three years up to August 31 this year.

SAA was also providing sponsorship for the Sunshine Golf Tour, ATP Tennis, Cricket SA, SA Rugby, SA Football Association, and ISM Golf Players.

The total value of SAA's sponsorships amounted to R268.3m in cash and R38.7m in free travel, which was spread over four years from 2008 to 2012.

"The individual value per sponsorship is commercially sensitive information and confidential, and thus cannot be disclosed. "Disclosure could be prejudicial to both SAA and the organisation being sponsored," Hogan said.

Lee on Wednesday said the R307m in sports-related sponsorships and free travel for sporting celebrities since 2008 meant that one fifth of the amount designated to SAA in bailout funds last year - R1.6 billion - had been spent on sporting sponsorships and free travel.

The mere fact that SAA had spent such a significant amount on sporting sponsorships, even while simultaneously requiring bailout funds, was difficult to comprehend.

"While the DA acknowledges the need to remain competitive in the global airlines industry, and that sponsorships can aid this, the sheer value of the sponsorships seems astonishing, and it seems highly doubtful that SAA is getting any bang for their buck.

"Faced with a choice of spending R307m on freebies and sponsorships, and financial stability, we would prefer the latter from a state-owned enterprise," Lee said.

The bailouts for SAA over the past five years had come either as cash injections or loans guaranteed by the state.

The history of these bailouts showed that every year the state was paying a fortune to keep SAA afloat - 2004/05 R6.1bn, 2005/06 R2.4bn (conversion of loans to equity), 2006/07 R1.3bn (loan guarantees), 2007/08 R5.4bn, and 2008/09 R1.6bn.



"""My opinion is that the government should stop giving them money!! If they can’t make it on their own the government should privatize them.
At least this way all the other private airlines can compete on a level playing field!!!"""
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Where did that last post come from?! I thought the thread was about SAA recruitment. The thread did stay on track for about 12 posts until the bashing started, not too bad I suppose.
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four engine jock............
Take it somewhere else as millertime mentioned this is to do with SAA recruitment. Ag... ...boring!
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I think that all future pilots that want to join SAA should know everything that’s going on there.
Therefore I will post what I feel is necessary information.
Yes SAA is the best paying flying job in South Africa with no doubt after all the TAX payers are footing the bill!!!!
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Old 5th Feb 2010, 12:19
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Sure then open another thread.......hasn't the tax payers footing the bill story been whipped enough! Kinda boring and tiresome don't you think? Sure it's reality but give it a break bro
Anyway back to the topic.......recruitment going ahead...."it's all happening at the WACA!"
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Dear 4EJ

Your are a fool.

Start your own SAA bashing thread if you want to. Don't cowardly hijack someone else's thread.

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Come on I am not bashing SAA. Well yes! just a bit. But this pprune. I thought we can write where we want. As to me being a fool, well sometimes I have to admit after having a few dops.
But the truth hurts.
SAA is kind of like ZUMA certain rules don’t apply. Man I hope someone don’t get all HUFF HUFF about that one.
Look in the end I hope that all that get a chance to work for SAA get it. It’s the best around with regards to aircraft and salary.
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I don't mean to hijack this thread but what rules don't apply?
Anyway maybe we should start a new thread titled.....I despise SAA because.... of what it does....because I didn't make selection...because I'm jealous of SAA pilots.... because I ain't there.....!!!...Because they spend my tax apyers money...blah blahblah Take your pick, there are many!
Hey,shall we just leave it as it is and return to the topic? Ag please............
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because I'm jealous of SAA pilots....

Interesting that SAA pilots always defend criticism of SAA by accusing others of jealousy or of having failed SAA interviews etc, assuming that other pilots are jealous of them. Time to get over yourselves boys and girls – SAA is certainly a comfy job in SA but just a little fish in a very big pond called Earth.

Many posts change direction or have different points of view – it’s what makes the world an interesting place.

4 EJ, post away, I think it’s a valid point. Most of the negative responses (EG fool) are born of insecurity.
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Of course we want defend the work place we are employed by. Whether it be SAA, Comair, 1Time etc etc...we are proud of where we belong. Aren't we? But look through the archives and I can count on one even maybe two hands as to the amount of anti - SAA talk that appears on these forums. As I mentioned there are many and if someone has to slag or degrade another's work place to make a point, I honestly believe it is uncalled for.

"Your're ugly and your mother dresses you funny." (And this is a general statement........ok...and not directed at anyone!)

So as said before back to the topic and please open another thread to bash the mere mortals at SAA!
Good luck to all who join...prospects are plenty with over 200 pilots needed over the next few years. It's what I heard not what I know!
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I am not sure about SAA being "ugly" but as Mango is SAA's baby, SAA takes on the role of mother, therefor "your mother dresses you funny" is pretty apt! whats with that uniform!!!! lol

Jokes aside, and back to the topic, I also heard the same re SAA taking on crew, but what are they looking for re HRS and types flown and total time? And any idea when they will be looking at non cadet guys and gals (ie contract dogs)??? Or do they prefer ex Sax/1 time/Link???

Dog, in a not much prettier uniform.
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