SA CAA Air Law and Procedures Exam
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SA CAA Air Law and Procedures Exam
I need to write the Air Law and Procedures exam to revalidate my licence. Is there anyone who has written recently and would be kind enough to offer some advice please, with respect to which notes are the best and types of questions asked. Thanks, much appreciated.
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Within the last two years or less.
Babcock. FAGC.
FTS. FAGC.
Aeronav. FALA.
All produce their own notes for thte Air Law and Procedures examination.
The exams are computer generated and you know your result at once.
All the sets of notes have their own questions in them and you need to know the answers to as many as possible even if some of them do not make sense.
I was only given two chances at the exam by the Director so i got all three sets of notes and swotted all of them. On balance I think that the questions are more important than the notes. I think the preference order for me on that was.
FTS.
Aeronav.
Babcock.
I cannot remember how much the notes cost but there are are two or three books in each set and I seem to rmemeber that its close to a grand a set. Aeronav might be able to arrange a little private tutorial for you. That;s a good idea if you have any matters of principle on which you are stuck.
It is a very far cry from the old law exam which you might have written years ago. They do like having you go round the hold at Phalabora working out at what level you can reneter the pattern after a go round.
Hope that helps. You can Google the schoools of course and I am sure they'll Postnet the manuals to you for a vast cost-especially if that Dunmow is in Essex.
Babcock. FAGC.
FTS. FAGC.
Aeronav. FALA.
All produce their own notes for thte Air Law and Procedures examination.
The exams are computer generated and you know your result at once.
All the sets of notes have their own questions in them and you need to know the answers to as many as possible even if some of them do not make sense.
I was only given two chances at the exam by the Director so i got all three sets of notes and swotted all of them. On balance I think that the questions are more important than the notes. I think the preference order for me on that was.
FTS.
Aeronav.
Babcock.
I cannot remember how much the notes cost but there are are two or three books in each set and I seem to rmemeber that its close to a grand a set. Aeronav might be able to arrange a little private tutorial for you. That;s a good idea if you have any matters of principle on which you are stuck.
It is a very far cry from the old law exam which you might have written years ago. They do like having you go round the hold at Phalabora working out at what level you can reneter the pattern after a go round.
Hope that helps. You can Google the schoools of course and I am sure they'll Postnet the manuals to you for a vast cost-especially if that Dunmow is in Essex.
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I had to renew earlier this year and reviewed the Red SA Air Law book that I picked up at the FBO where I did my renewal.
The test was straightforward and I did not feel I needed anything more than the Air Law booklet.
Edited to add:
If it is just private you are looking for, the book is
South African Air Law for Private Pilots - Lilith A Seals
The link below also has another book Air Law for South African Pilots.
Both ~ ZAR 150.
http://www.cometaviationsupplies.co.za
The test was straightforward and I did not feel I needed anything more than the Air Law booklet.
Edited to add:
If it is just private you are looking for, the book is
South African Air Law for Private Pilots - Lilith A Seals
The link below also has another book Air Law for South African Pilots.
Both ~ ZAR 150.
http://www.cometaviationsupplies.co.za
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Nice of you to thank us.
If you're in Dunmow Essex, I will be north of you in ten days. I could see what I have in the way of commercial course notes stashed away in the UK and call you.
If you're in Dunmow Essex, I will be north of you in ten days. I could see what I have in the way of commercial course notes stashed away in the UK and call you.
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Der absolute Hammer, the book is indeed written by Lilith Seales (ex SAA sim instructor) it is a very well put together book and sits in my flight bag permanently. Incidentally she did my Comm and Instructors flight tests, wow she is a heck of a knowledgeable person! She is possibly the most qualified and knowledgeable air law specialist in the country.
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Could well be - most certainly not someone to be under estimated.
It was a long time ago when she achieved that first feminine flag waving goal. Those were the days when Grand Central Flight School had gone from Scully L and his great guy father Harold, to an Avex institution and the tower was a tin hut out on the apron. The two guys who ran that operation have gone into the mists of time. DW went to Canada eventually? RW, I do not know- good guys.
It was a long time ago when she achieved that first feminine flag waving goal. Those were the days when Grand Central Flight School had gone from Scully L and his great guy father Harold, to an Avex institution and the tower was a tin hut out on the apron. The two guys who ran that operation have gone into the mists of time. DW went to Canada eventually? RW, I do not know- good guys.
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Well, the TAC used to be members only and the Harvard cafe used to be owned by...Manny?
But this becomes thread drift of the major proportion even if it has the ATC content.
But this becomes thread drift of the major proportion even if it has the ATC content.
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Recently had to rewrite (lost my focus a bit...) and all I can say is, it felt the same as when I initially wrote 10 years ago!!!
Used Avex notes, compared it afterwards with Babcock notes... no real difference.
Study hard!!!
Good luck!!!
Used Avex notes, compared it afterwards with Babcock notes... no real difference.
Study hard!!!
Good luck!!!
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Quote: "I need to write the Air Law and Procedures exam to revalidate my licence."
Several posters including the first seem to be rewriting this examination in order to revalidate a licence. Why? I am assuming they are not having to rewrite because they failed the exam but for some other reason.
Is this Air Law and Procedures examination valid for a limited time for all pilots with South African licences or foreign licences validated by the SACAA?
Is this for a South African or a foreign licence that is being revalidated?
Do pilots with South African licences have to regularly repass the SACAA's written/computer exams to keep up their licences?
Does the same need to keep repassing written/computer exams apply to SACAA validations of foreign licences?
In nearly forty years of flying in different continents I have not come across this unusual situation before. I have licences from four countries in different continents.
I once had my Canadian licence validated in an African country. This involved passing an air law exam and paying a fee. My Canadian licence was then validated in that country for three months. I was then entitled to commercially fly that country's aircraft within that validation period as long as my Canadian licence was valid. The validation fee was substantial and each validation period was for only three months so it made sense to obtain a local licence. This involved one flight test which covered general flying, type rating and instrument rating. The air law I had already passed and did not need to rewrite. I then had a licence from that African country and needed only to renew the instrument rating with a flight test every twelve months. There was never any need to keep passing the same written exams.
After several years away from Canada, during which time I had kept up my Canadian medical but had not been able to renew the instrument rating on the TC licence, I then had to do only a regular flight test to renew the instrument rating on my Canadian licence. I did not have to rewrite the INRAT or any other exam as during the whole time I had been away I had maintained an instrument rating for commercial flying on a licence issued by an ICAO state, including a renewal within the past twelve months. I provided evidence of this to the designated TC examiner, passed the flight test and my instrument rating was renewed.
I have never come across this need to keep rewriting the same exams. What is going on in South Africa?
Several posters including the first seem to be rewriting this examination in order to revalidate a licence. Why? I am assuming they are not having to rewrite because they failed the exam but for some other reason.
Is this Air Law and Procedures examination valid for a limited time for all pilots with South African licences or foreign licences validated by the SACAA?
Is this for a South African or a foreign licence that is being revalidated?
Do pilots with South African licences have to regularly repass the SACAA's written/computer exams to keep up their licences?
Does the same need to keep repassing written/computer exams apply to SACAA validations of foreign licences?
In nearly forty years of flying in different continents I have not come across this unusual situation before. I have licences from four countries in different continents.
I once had my Canadian licence validated in an African country. This involved passing an air law exam and paying a fee. My Canadian licence was then validated in that country for three months. I was then entitled to commercially fly that country's aircraft within that validation period as long as my Canadian licence was valid. The validation fee was substantial and each validation period was for only three months so it made sense to obtain a local licence. This involved one flight test which covered general flying, type rating and instrument rating. The air law I had already passed and did not need to rewrite. I then had a licence from that African country and needed only to renew the instrument rating with a flight test every twelve months. There was never any need to keep passing the same written exams.
After several years away from Canada, during which time I had kept up my Canadian medical but had not been able to renew the instrument rating on the TC licence, I then had to do only a regular flight test to renew the instrument rating on my Canadian licence. I did not have to rewrite the INRAT or any other exam as during the whole time I had been away I had maintained an instrument rating for commercial flying on a licence issued by an ICAO state, including a renewal within the past twelve months. I provided evidence of this to the designated TC examiner, passed the flight test and my instrument rating was renewed.
I have never come across this need to keep rewriting the same exams. What is going on in South Africa?
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If you have a SA license and keep it current, you dont need to re write any exams. If you let it lapse for an extended period then you need to rewrite, if more than 60 months you have to do all the theory from scratch.
In the case of a validation, they are valid 12 months. After it expires you need to do another validation. Same ground rules apply, air law and flight test. Then you got it for another 12 months. You cannot validate in light of holding a previous validation.
Rather than validating you must convert. You will write law, performance & planning and also Met. Once you have done these you have 36 months to get your license issued via flight test or you need to do them again as well. Once you did a convertion, you won't have to sit all exams again.
Before trying to convert make sure to check the AIC for requirements. Once you have converted, you will be issued with a SA license on the bases of a license held from a contracting state (ICAO).
In the case of a validation, they are valid 12 months. After it expires you need to do another validation. Same ground rules apply, air law and flight test. Then you got it for another 12 months. You cannot validate in light of holding a previous validation.
Rather than validating you must convert. You will write law, performance & planning and also Met. Once you have done these you have 36 months to get your license issued via flight test or you need to do them again as well. Once you did a convertion, you won't have to sit all exams again.
Before trying to convert make sure to check the AIC for requirements. Once you have converted, you will be issued with a SA license on the bases of a license held from a contracting state (ICAO).
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Could anyone tell where would be best to buy SA CAA CPL Air Law study books. I'm currently in the UK and need to pre study the Air Law before heading out to SA. Also is there any websites, books or DVDs on question banks for the SA CPL Air Law.
Any info would be much appreciated.
Cheers
Any info would be much appreciated.
Cheers