Nyassa Air Taxi Age issue?
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Nyassa Air Taxi Age issue?
Gday everybody in the African forum.
I have just come across the Nyassa Air Taxi pilot job requirements, I was curious as to the age requirements specified. 24-40? I happen to meet all the other requirements, except I am 20 (almost 21), does anybody know why this age requirement stands because it would be a great opportunity?
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I have just come across the Nyassa Air Taxi pilot job requirements, I was curious as to the age requirements specified. 24-40? I happen to meet all the other requirements, except I am 20 (almost 21), does anybody know why this age requirement stands because it would be a great opportunity?
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What a load of old rowlocks............
I was 20 when I started bush-flying in Kenya , by the time I was 24 I was a veteran , and we had no GPS , maps of any use etc , no turboprops , lots of exciting times , but loads of commonsense when the going got tough got the job done safely .Just stick to your principles , you will be fine.
I moved to Malawi and managed to combine airline jet flying with some piston work . Great times indeed .
Just keep bothering whoever you want to work for , they will love you for it in the end !! Good luck.
I was 20 when I started bush-flying in Kenya , by the time I was 24 I was a veteran , and we had no GPS , maps of any use etc , no turboprops , lots of exciting times , but loads of commonsense when the going got tough got the job done safely .Just stick to your principles , you will be fine.
I moved to Malawi and managed to combine airline jet flying with some piston work . Great times indeed .
Just keep bothering whoever you want to work for , they will love you for it in the end !! Good luck.
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arnellis: just send them your CV, write them a few wise words, and you might just get there. I'm not sure if they really want to stick to this thing. Although the owner is a very strict Austrian guy...
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I intended on applying regardless, as all of my experience beyond training has been charter in North Australia, and at least 200hrs of that time has been during the "wet season", although I have not really had much experience around terrain. My maturity, well I feel as though I am mature for my age, but I dont think my thoughts are really that objective, however I am positive my references would confirm my thoughts. I was just curious as to whether it was maybe a government requirement.
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whas the pay like?
Hi arnellis,
I'm sort of in the same boat as you, im 21 soon also, finished my Multi CPL/IR this year but have 205hrs though and only UK weather experience!
If money was not an issue I would love to go to Africa and do safari flights, bush flying etc and will also be applying to Nyassa.
Does anyone know how much a bush flying job like this pays? I would not be doing it for the money but need to pay back the banks.
Thanks for any response..
I'm sort of in the same boat as you, im 21 soon also, finished my Multi CPL/IR this year but have 205hrs though and only UK weather experience!
If money was not an issue I would love to go to Africa and do safari flights, bush flying etc and will also be applying to Nyassa.
Does anyone know how much a bush flying job like this pays? I would not be doing it for the money but need to pay back the banks.
Thanks for any response..
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Just single engine...
Nope. They're doing a great amount of multi. Look up "mikeflymalawi" and "fliegeninafrika" blogs with Google. Also Mike's videos on youtube. You can get a picture of what it's like to live and fly in Malawi.
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Just send them your CV. But I can tell u, they've got a lot of them on their desk! But try, more than no thanks or yes please will not happen. And they do fly twin, Seneca and Chieftain soon!
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And they do fly twin, Seneca and Chieftain soon!
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The very fact that the company put out an advertisement with an age requirement indicates a retarded attitude towards human rights by both the company and the country.
Civilised countries with proper human rights legislation have no age restrictions and severely punish companies and individuals who discriminate on the basis of age. Job advertisements must not include any age limits and employers are not allowed to ask for an applicant's age. Apart from the legislative aspect, employers with any brains appreciate the wisdom, experience, work ethic and judgement of older employees.
Canada is an example of a country that has no age limit for pilots. As long as you can pass the recurring medicals and flight tests you can continue earning a living as a professional pilot. Just last year the Canadian Human Rights Commission struck down an agreement between Air Canada and its pilots' union that forced pilots to retire at age 60. About twenty five years ago Air Canada was also punished when it refused to hire three pilots because they were over a certain age. I believe it was 35 in that case. They were made to hire the one who was still interested and pay damages to the other two.
It's disgraceful that this retarded attitude still exists. It is an indication of how you can expect to be treated by both the company and the country! Look elsewhere!
http://www.pprune.org/canada/387239-...itutional.html
Civilised countries with proper human rights legislation have no age restrictions and severely punish companies and individuals who discriminate on the basis of age. Job advertisements must not include any age limits and employers are not allowed to ask for an applicant's age. Apart from the legislative aspect, employers with any brains appreciate the wisdom, experience, work ethic and judgement of older employees.
Canada is an example of a country that has no age limit for pilots. As long as you can pass the recurring medicals and flight tests you can continue earning a living as a professional pilot. Just last year the Canadian Human Rights Commission struck down an agreement between Air Canada and its pilots' union that forced pilots to retire at age 60. About twenty five years ago Air Canada was also punished when it refused to hire three pilots because they were over a certain age. I believe it was 35 in that case. They were made to hire the one who was still interested and pay damages to the other two.
It's disgraceful that this retarded attitude still exists. It is an indication of how you can expect to be treated by both the company and the country! Look elsewhere!
http://www.pprune.org/canada/387239-...itutional.html
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Strict Austrian who stupidly thinks age requirements will guarantee maturity of applicants, few aircraft, low monthly flying hours, low pay, empty promises of aircraft to come, ie Chieftain etc.... What the hell is wrong with you guys? Why are you even still posting on this thread?
Get over to Botswana and Zambia etc where there are long established, well run, busy companies. And If you insist on Malawi then at least be looking at the likes of Sefofane etc...
Just my humble opinion of course!
Get over to Botswana and Zambia etc where there are long established, well run, busy companies. And If you insist on Malawi then at least be looking at the likes of Sefofane etc...
Just my humble opinion of course!
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Hi all
I did contact them and I just receive email from them, lucky I don’t have the age issue, which I can just wait to get older to solve it or show that I am mature enough.
The requirement is 400 Hour PIC which I don’t have, and they say for the moment they only hire pilot who has 400 PIC or more!
“The Wraith” why pilot posting here is hoping for get job plus they have Piper Seneca. I already send my resume to Sefofane and many other, some only bother to reply and say don’t need pilot or they cannot hire because of my low flying hours and etc. If you know better place that you know hire pilot with low hour can you please tell us?
I did contact them and I just receive email from them, lucky I don’t have the age issue, which I can just wait to get older to solve it or show that I am mature enough.
The requirement is 400 Hour PIC which I don’t have, and they say for the moment they only hire pilot who has 400 PIC or more!
“The Wraith” why pilot posting here is hoping for get job plus they have Piper Seneca. I already send my resume to Sefofane and many other, some only bother to reply and say don’t need pilot or they cannot hire because of my low flying hours and etc. If you know better place that you know hire pilot with low hour can you please tell us?
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I am one of the Austrians in our company. Don't know whether I am the strict one, referred to in one post.
Before anybody makes some unqualified remarks about our retarded attitude I would suggest you imagine yourself in the shoes of an operator, which is quite different than being in the pilot seat. We are one of only two operators in Malawi. We fly tourists, business clients as well as VIPs. And yet, in a year we fly less than Sefofane flies in Maun in a month. The challenges in a mountainous country with a diverse weather system are quite different from many other locations. We operate from airstrip between 1500 - 7700 ft AMSL and there are 4 tar strips in the whole country. All aircraft on the Malawi register are about 25 and this includes everything, except military. Out of these there are 8 aircraft used for charter!
When we recruit pilots, then we get applications from guys with 150-7000 hours and generally within 2 weeks we have over 100 CV's. Should we raise anyones hopes and tell we recruit low hour young pilots, and then disregard them, just to fulfill whatever human right requirement that "Carrier" thinks there is? We run a professional operation and a number of our pilots move straight on to very interesting jobs.
Quite regularly we have been asked to provide crew details when we fly film teams, VIPs and others. Pilot age is one of the more common questions and concerns.
The Chieftain has been purchased and will be here shortly after refurbishment is complete. And there will be other developments in the near future.
There was some talk about pay. Don't come to Malawi to get rich. If you fly here for a year, you have a very diverse experience, several hundred hours in your log book and walk away with a good amount of cash. And if you intend to stay longer, then there are interesting opportunities.
The Austrian
Before anybody makes some unqualified remarks about our retarded attitude I would suggest you imagine yourself in the shoes of an operator, which is quite different than being in the pilot seat. We are one of only two operators in Malawi. We fly tourists, business clients as well as VIPs. And yet, in a year we fly less than Sefofane flies in Maun in a month. The challenges in a mountainous country with a diverse weather system are quite different from many other locations. We operate from airstrip between 1500 - 7700 ft AMSL and there are 4 tar strips in the whole country. All aircraft on the Malawi register are about 25 and this includes everything, except military. Out of these there are 8 aircraft used for charter!
When we recruit pilots, then we get applications from guys with 150-7000 hours and generally within 2 weeks we have over 100 CV's. Should we raise anyones hopes and tell we recruit low hour young pilots, and then disregard them, just to fulfill whatever human right requirement that "Carrier" thinks there is? We run a professional operation and a number of our pilots move straight on to very interesting jobs.
Quite regularly we have been asked to provide crew details when we fly film teams, VIPs and others. Pilot age is one of the more common questions and concerns.
The Chieftain has been purchased and will be here shortly after refurbishment is complete. And there will be other developments in the near future.
There was some talk about pay. Don't come to Malawi to get rich. If you fly here for a year, you have a very diverse experience, several hundred hours in your log book and walk away with a good amount of cash. And if you intend to stay longer, then there are interesting opportunities.
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The minimum age of 24 makes some sense. This will reduce the number of resumes from low timers who would not be able to handle the conditions. Anyway, no sensible non-airline operator wants to hire a 250 hour pimple-faced CPL Top Gun wannabee who beats up every airfield on arrival, drives maintenance costs through the roof, cheeks the pax, smashes the freight, and turns up to work as and when it fits in with his party schedule and hangover recovery ability.
When I posted above I was thinking more of the upper age limit. Apart from human rights issues, the maximum age of 40 is self defeating. Pax like to see some grey hair and well worn stripes. It gives them confidence. The age 40 limit excludes a surprisingly large pool of pilots who have retired from the airlines and want to continue flying, have always stayed in non-airline pilot jobs or who have made a career change. Older pilots offer the maturity, wisdom, experience, work ethic and judgment that might not be available from a younger pilot. It's dumb to exclude such experienced pilots!
When I posted above I was thinking more of the upper age limit. Apart from human rights issues, the maximum age of 40 is self defeating. Pax like to see some grey hair and well worn stripes. It gives them confidence. The age 40 limit excludes a surprisingly large pool of pilots who have retired from the airlines and want to continue flying, have always stayed in non-airline pilot jobs or who have made a career change. Older pilots offer the maturity, wisdom, experience, work ethic and judgment that might not be available from a younger pilot. It's dumb to exclude such experienced pilots!
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There are those and the others. Yes, some young pilots have indeed their busy party schedule in mind more than their job. But there are also a good number of very dedicated ones. We had a taste of both and aim at a mix of various skills and age.
Older pilots rarely want to come to a small charter operator with the equipment that we have. And Malawi doesn't have enough business to support a Kingair or even a Caravan for charter purposes. And with smaller equipment it is almost impossible to make enough money to offer them salaries which an older pilot feels he should have because of his/her experience. Well, we are growing ...
Older pilots rarely want to come to a small charter operator with the equipment that we have. And Malawi doesn't have enough business to support a Kingair or even a Caravan for charter purposes. And with smaller equipment it is almost impossible to make enough money to offer them salaries which an older pilot feels he should have because of his/her experience. Well, we are growing ...
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Can anyone shed some light on the working conditions and perks at nyassa air as well as safety standards? Pay seems very low according to website. Basic accomodation seems provided.Does it include meals?During the first month it is without pay and so does it mean even license validation is at the cost of the candidate?