Arik Air announces its first transatlantic route
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In additon to th Cat 1 status for Nigeria, Arik would need to apply to the FAA for a 129 certificate, this would allow them to fly into the US.
I have friends in training with Arik/Hifly for the flight attendant positions. The are employed by a Crew Leasing firm in the US, being trained by HiFly and will wear Arik uniforms! The all have FAA issued flight attendant licenses/certificates. From what I have been told, Arik bought the planes, dry leased them to Hifly and then wet leased them back.... I could be wrong...
I have friends in training with Arik/Hifly for the flight attendant positions. The are employed by a Crew Leasing firm in the US, being trained by HiFly and will wear Arik uniforms! The all have FAA issued flight attendant licenses/certificates. From what I have been told, Arik bought the planes, dry leased them to Hifly and then wet leased them back.... I could be wrong...
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Finally someone smart has showed up
IFLYFORFREE: youre pretty close to the truth!
Quote:"In addition to the Cat 1 status for Nigeria, Arik would need to apply to the FAA for a FAA129 certificate, this would allow them to fly into the US."
Prior to "9-11" This certification was optional for some airlines. however after "9-11"
The FAA "ATOSS" Air Carrier transportation and Security Surveillance. Team has mandated to all foreign carriers engaged in Air transportation operations across its border to have either a FAA 121 certificate or 129 certificate. Compliance is mandatory. In the case of Nigerian Operators and JAR. because prior approvals (prior to JAR OPS 69. These countries have been "Granfathered" and allowed to enter European airspace provided they meet the the Mandated Compliance of ISO 9002 and IATA audits. This is the "Loophole" that allow all non JAR foriegn carriers to enter land and takeoff from "ANY EUROPEAN AIROPRT"
It is interesting to note that Saudia has an FAA 121 Certicicate same as united and Delta.
Category1 certification approval is only the 1step in the process in obtaining the required certification to cross the US border for the purpose of landing& Takeoff as An AirCarrier.
I hope that at least we can research our facts before we continue with unfactual infomation.
Cheers
GB
Quote:"In addition to the Cat 1 status for Nigeria, Arik would need to apply to the FAA for a FAA129 certificate, this would allow them to fly into the US."
Prior to "9-11" This certification was optional for some airlines. however after "9-11"
The FAA "ATOSS" Air Carrier transportation and Security Surveillance. Team has mandated to all foreign carriers engaged in Air transportation operations across its border to have either a FAA 121 certificate or 129 certificate. Compliance is mandatory. In the case of Nigerian Operators and JAR. because prior approvals (prior to JAR OPS 69. These countries have been "Granfathered" and allowed to enter European airspace provided they meet the the Mandated Compliance of ISO 9002 and IATA audits. This is the "Loophole" that allow all non JAR foriegn carriers to enter land and takeoff from "ANY EUROPEAN AIROPRT"
It is interesting to note that Saudia has an FAA 121 Certicicate same as united and Delta.
Category1 certification approval is only the 1step in the process in obtaining the required certification to cross the US border for the purpose of landing& Takeoff as An AirCarrier.
I hope that at least we can research our facts before we continue with unfactual infomation.
Cheers
GB
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Nigerians may be corrupt but such blatant cases of corruption especially on an international flight in first class does not happen. Please state on which airline this occurred..and if there are any W3 drivers on here with inside details about Sunday do not hesitate please
Nigerians may be corrupt but such blatant cases of corruption especially on an international flight in first class does not happen. Please state on which airline this occurred..and if there are any W3 drivers on here with inside details about Sunday do not hesitate please
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We had a Healthy and academic inclined discussion going on before Cruise climb came up with this Weird Molue
story of his, i am not surprised his Location is in a suitcase you dont see much inside a suitcase
but what your imagination leads you to believe
story of his, i am not surprised his Location is in a suitcase you dont see much inside a suitcase but what your imagination leads you to believe
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I'm happy to report that for two days around Xmas, the LOS-JFK flight is sold out. I hope lots of well wishers show up for the maiden flight, instead of sitting on their computer complaining
Those of you hounding the fellow about his story of corruption, let's move on. This story may or may not be embellished, but corruption is blatant. If I were asked for a bribe to get on the plane, or take the chance of not getting on, I'd probably just pay after some hard negotiations. That's the way business is done.
If it was a legitimate carrier, I'd complain after the fact. If not a legitimate carrier, what the heck am I doing there ?
Those of you hounding the fellow about his story of corruption, let's move on. This story may or may not be embellished, but corruption is blatant. If I were asked for a bribe to get on the plane, or take the chance of not getting on, I'd probably just pay after some hard negotiations. That's the way business is done.
If it was a legitimate carrier, I'd complain after the fact. If not a legitimate carrier, what the heck am I doing there ?
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Rotations Canx?
If you are looking at the LOSJFK 24/25 DEC & 31 DEC/1 JAN rotations as full - it looks more like they are in fact non-op.
Sensible to canx now rather than a few days before departure and upset pax.
Sensible to canx now rather than a few days before departure and upset pax.
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Aircraft: Airbus A340-500 (quad-jet) (H/A345/Q - track or photos)
Origin: Murtala Mohammed Int'l (DNMM / LOS)
Destination: John F Kennedy Intl (KJFK)
Route: LAG UA609 TYE UA601 TD UA601 YF UR976 ULTEM 2900N 04000W 3600N 05000W 3900N 06000W DOVEY N18C SAILE PLYMM PLYMM4
Date: Sunday, Nov 29, 2009
Duration: 10 hours 56 minutes
Status: Arrived 21 minutes ago! (track log)
Scheduled Actual/Estimated
Departure: 10:30PM UTC 10:55PM UTC
Arrival: 04:32AM EST 04:51AM EST
Speed 474 kts
Altitude 40000 feet
Origin: Murtala Mohammed Int'l (DNMM / LOS)
Destination: John F Kennedy Intl (KJFK)
Route: LAG UA609 TYE UA601 TD UA601 YF UR976 ULTEM 2900N 04000W 3600N 05000W 3900N 06000W DOVEY N18C SAILE PLYMM PLYMM4
Date: Sunday, Nov 29, 2009
Duration: 10 hours 56 minutes
Status: Arrived 21 minutes ago! (track log)
Scheduled Actual/Estimated
Departure: 10:30PM UTC 10:55PM UTC
Arrival: 04:32AM EST 04:51AM EST
Speed 474 kts
Altitude 40000 feet
