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Kenya Airways AB Initio Pilot Recruitment

Old 28th Nov 2012, 22:39
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am afraid UA405 might be right...

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Old 29th Nov 2012, 02:11
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KQ Figures

@UA405, i am very greatful for the insight. It clearly brings out the unselfish you...looking forward to meeting you in person! At what point can you question how the money you will be spending and thereafter payback will be managed, now that you only meet with the HR during the orals only(normally one with two captains), and maybe when leaving..this is so because you dont sign the papers for the loan at KQ, you are asked to meet some lady at coop.. Seriously, there is no point following your dream then it becomes a burden in ones youthful career days.
@Delt i hope the training is going down well despite of the unrest fron UA405.
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Old 29th Nov 2012, 09:03
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@MisterToo, everything here is great so far, can't complain much, goodluck in those medicals, hoping to see you here soon.
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Old 29th Nov 2012, 15:54
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@ Delt, Thanks for putting things into perspective, alot has really changed since our time as AB initios, i guess with the way things are done you do not really get the chance to air your concerns like we used to.
Anyhow i met a colleague who is in the union and he informed me that they are actually aware and are trying to find an amicable solution with the company's management, to at least ease of the burden on the new guyz.

I apologise if i caused alot of panic on here, i felt it was only fair that you know at the current arrangement things were in favour of the bank and not the cadets.
All the same, the union has got their hands on the contracts from the new F.O's who returned and are trying to get a way to get this sorted.

I will just wish you the best on your interviews for now, give it your best shot and hopefully we will see you on board soon.

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Old 29th Nov 2012, 19:25
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Reapplication

Am just but curious. How does one go about with reapplying for the ab initio? Does one need to withdraw the current application if it still reads "active "?
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Old 30th Nov 2012, 12:24
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for those that did psychometric on thursday,did the lady say that results will be out on monday or wednesday?
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Old 30th Nov 2012, 12:38
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the process

for those of us who did the morrisby, u know it was so challenging but lets pray hard hoping that we will sail through. the psycho motor will be on Wednesday for those who will pass the Morris, does anyone know any site where i can get training materials?
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Old 30th Nov 2012, 16:55
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interview

How did you leave the interviews at medicals???
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Old 30th Nov 2012, 19:05
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the white lady said that they are going to forward the results to KQ on Tuesday. The psycho-motor will start on Wednesday in groups of 8-10 so expect the emails as from Tuesday midday
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Old 1st Dec 2012, 08:55
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thank you.hope we will get through psychometric although it was challenging.God is with us.
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Old 1st Dec 2012, 09:35
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Anxiety

Hi guys! I did my psychometric on thurs morning but i heard the white lady saying we'd get results on mon .Who else heard that?
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Old 1st Dec 2012, 14:44
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Yeah. We will go through
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Old 2nd Dec 2012, 21:16
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UA 405

please tell thsese guys, there are 20 year old first officers who went through the ab initio program, who drive a subaru, get deducted 133k, the place they can afford living is nyayo estate, some miss flights coz they were buying girls alcohol in westlands, third week of the month, they borrow money for fuel to go to work. i know two friends like that. this makes me wanna just beat them up, 100k net for a pilots lifestyle is peanuts. i passed kcse from nairobi school in 2004, was desperate to become a pilot so much that i wanted to sell my kidney at 19 coz my parents were a primary school teacher n mum a village church pastor earning net 15ooo a month and we were 7 kids total. i decided to go to the USA To hustle, i did all odd jobs, even wiping peoples asses, to raise money to study for a bachelors degree in aviation there. in 2009, one of the presidential candidates visited my mums church while campaining and my mum told him about me, he hooked me up with the ab initio thing, but i refused to abandon hustling two odd jobs and giving up my degree to go for the ab initio. i have no regrets, though it took me 9 years of my life to earn my degree and cpl ir, the salary would enable me take a loan to buy a cessna 172 take it to wilson in 5 years i wouldnt even need to fly kq . i can buy my parents a house, educate my siblings, and i wouldnt do that with the ab initio salary ...
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Old 3rd Dec 2012, 03:27
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so what are we supposed to do?
Ditch this thing and persue other fields?what if we dont have other alternative ways to land us back to aviation like you did!
#Patcherian#
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Old 3rd Dec 2012, 07:09
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fingers crossed

nimekaza yangu yote hoping that i will be invited for the psychomotor est, God pliz help. am so anxious to go to SA, not because of coming back to earn a lot of money but because i have always had the passion to be a pilot. it doesnt matter how much they will be paying me, as long as its a reasonable amount i will be comfortable with it. having the cockpit as your office i think is the sexiest thing, i dont mind earning 100k as my salary as long as am flying, but one thing am sure with is that KQ has annual salary increament for pilots, so by the time i finish repaying my loan which is after 8 years, i will be earning close to 600k!!!!! how about that?
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Old 3rd Dec 2012, 10:37
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pilots pay

Guys don't lose your focus.Get your facts right!First of all 100k is not an ab initio trainees salary it at least 3 fold that figure.133k is what is deducted monthly to service the loan.If you wanna be on Forbes then this is the wrong profession! not because it doesn't pay but your not doing it out of passion.UA405 isn't against the program as a whole,he only feels it's not financially viable on the part of the trainee because it becomes a huge inconvenience during ones fo years as he/she has to part with large sums of money to service the loan.Furthermore,the type rating bond(737 or embraer)puts you in a more precarious position.The fact that a couple of disgruntled elements can't keep their finances in check (who also clearly can't handle the huge responsibility of airline service)shouldn't deter anyone from pursuing their dreams.
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Old 3rd Dec 2012, 12:26
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Old 3rd Dec 2012, 18:59
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ab initio salary

nairobi is a very expensive town. do the maths
net salary 100000
minus car note, 30000
fuel 20000
rent 20000 to 30000 (nyayo estate cheapest) as a pilot u cant live in a one bedroom, your small siblings need to come and sleep over sometimes
nairobi girls minus 10000
food, water, misc bills 20000
net salary 000000000000
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Old 3rd Dec 2012, 19:07
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when you come back negotiate with coop bank, get a personal loan from any bank to pay off coop banks debt. say your training cost 5 million plus 2 million embraer or 737 simulator , get a personal loan of 7 million and pay off this debt. they might charge u an early termination fee of like 2 percent. a loan of 7 million u will be deducted about 150000 for 60 months only. with kenya airways paying u say 300000 a month, u will comfortable pay that in 60 months. instead of paying 133000 times 96 months which is 13million plus 2 million for the rating bonding 15 million. in those eight years the extra 15 minus 7 million u paid kq u can buy a 172 take it to wilson to instruct students.
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Old 3rd Dec 2012, 20:27
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futurekenyanpilot

now that's the kind of information we need as we progress through these stages. Thanks for the advice.
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