Watch out with this guys in Congo DRC.
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R.V. nobody has been insulting about your family members, so please refrain from making insinuations about others.
As for understanding what you write, I’m afraid I still have not been able to source a decoder!
Should you wish to improve your standing in the aviation community, may I suggest you invest some money in English language tuition.
As for understanding what you write, I’m afraid I still have not been able to source a decoder!
Should you wish to improve your standing in the aviation community, may I suggest you invest some money in English language tuition.
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Sorry I only notice now. Typo.
Should have been RETARDO - guess my play on words went overhead at FL390 (thats a flight level where big airplanes fly Ricco)
Now where is my breakfast beer.
I would put you on my ignore list, but then I would not get my daily dose of:
"Life might suck, - but it will never be quite as bad as Rittardo's."
Also I would hate to miss out your regular rape of the queens engrish which I find delightfully droll despite it making me cringe.
Should have been RETARDO - guess my play on words went overhead at FL390 (thats a flight level where big airplanes fly Ricco)
Now where is my breakfast beer.
I would put you on my ignore list, but then I would not get my daily dose of:
"Life might suck, - but it will never be quite as bad as Rittardo's."
Also I would hate to miss out your regular rape of the queens engrish which I find delightfully droll despite it making me cringe.
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Flying In Congo Drc......
Hey SAABFLYER,
Sorry for not posting sooner but my Superhero costume went for drycleaning!
Good news - I heard last week the boys from Lumbum had their SAAB re-posessed - apparently the aircraft was under lease/purchase and you were not the only one to not get paid. So revenge is sweet.
HOWEVER - did you not realise when you took the job that Congo DRC is the third most corrupt country in the world(Officially) - Were you confused beacuse the owners have Belgian Nationalities - (this is only because Belgium unlike most of the world inherrits Nationality from fathers not place of birth) - They are all Congolese - born and bread! You are just a parasite they use like toilet paper - a necessity owing to few local pilots available for the moment.
Here is my advice to flying in the DRC - if it is contract flying paid by a company outside of DRC then fine but don't complain about ATC, runways, living conditions, security etc..... because your main reason for being there is the MONEY!
If you want to work for a local company there then like Mel Gibson said in Air America you have to be "Flying for a Cause" - either you want to save the world or you don't give a
about it! And that's the truth.
Money, accomodation, safety standards, overloading - are not relevent because like the hijackers in 911 you either believe what your doing or don't give a rats arse!
Sorry for not posting sooner but my Superhero costume went for drycleaning!
Good news - I heard last week the boys from Lumbum had their SAAB re-posessed - apparently the aircraft was under lease/purchase and you were not the only one to not get paid. So revenge is sweet.
HOWEVER - did you not realise when you took the job that Congo DRC is the third most corrupt country in the world(Officially) - Were you confused beacuse the owners have Belgian Nationalities - (this is only because Belgium unlike most of the world inherrits Nationality from fathers not place of birth) - They are all Congolese - born and bread! You are just a parasite they use like toilet paper - a necessity owing to few local pilots available for the moment.
Here is my advice to flying in the DRC - if it is contract flying paid by a company outside of DRC then fine but don't complain about ATC, runways, living conditions, security etc..... because your main reason for being there is the MONEY!
If you want to work for a local company there then like Mel Gibson said in Air America you have to be "Flying for a Cause" - either you want to save the world or you don't give a
about it! And that's the truth.Money, accomodation, safety standards, overloading - are not relevent because like the hijackers in 911 you either believe what your doing or don't give a rats arse!
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Repossesion....
Now I know this is an aviation forum and most of us are pilots and so the mystical world of finance is limited to per diems and so forth but to "reposses" an aircraft does not necessarily mean you lose it altogether but rather you have to re-finnance and re-negotiate your terms (Kind of like an ex-wife)
They may well have sorted out their problem for the moment however once bittten twice shy and pilots and leasing companies will be more cautious when dealing with them in the future.
The point about most of them is that they DO have the money to pay you however they choose NOT to.
Reco if you what to be their night in shinning armour then by all means pack your bags and head for the emerald city - unless that is they already know you!
They may well have sorted out their problem for the moment however once bittten twice shy and pilots and leasing companies will be more cautious when dealing with them in the future.
The point about most of them is that they DO have the money to pay you however they choose NOT to.
Reco if you what to be their night in shinning armour then by all means pack your bags and head for the emerald city - unless that is they already know you!
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Sure
Sure they already know me and that is why they do not want me to work for them.I was working for their sister company.
I applied to them and also contacted me not long time ago, but I am too expensive for them.
R.V.
I applied to them and also contacted me not long time ago, but I am too expensive for them.
R.V.
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I somehow don't see the repo man making it out of the terminal in L'shi alive, let alone getting anywhere near the ITAB ramp. Seriously - you couldn't pay me enough to repo that airplane in the Congo.
The ITAB/Air Katanga guys have deep connections in L'shi. Once they got that airplane to DRC, whomever leased it to them lost all leverage as that airplane ain't leavin' the country until its broken down into beer cans. Wouldn't be surprised if they renegotiated the lease down to about 500 Congolese francs a year..... ;-), because that country is the Wild West and laws just don't apply, especially when that Saab is only doing domestic hops.
If you don't believe me, just use the search function and read about the B707 9Q-CLK, a Congolese airplane which got repo'd in Lanseria about a year and a half ago. Congolese pilots came down and flew it out of there even though the aircraft was not airworthy and the gear wouldn't come up. Congolese people don't mess around, especially when the repo man shows up on their own turf.....
JT
The ITAB/Air Katanga guys have deep connections in L'shi. Once they got that airplane to DRC, whomever leased it to them lost all leverage as that airplane ain't leavin' the country until its broken down into beer cans. Wouldn't be surprised if they renegotiated the lease down to about 500 Congolese francs a year..... ;-), because that country is the Wild West and laws just don't apply, especially when that Saab is only doing domestic hops.
If you don't believe me, just use the search function and read about the B707 9Q-CLK, a Congolese airplane which got repo'd in Lanseria about a year and a half ago. Congolese pilots came down and flew it out of there even though the aircraft was not airworthy and the gear wouldn't come up. Congolese people don't mess around, especially when the repo man shows up on their own turf.....
JT
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Any chance for some reason on this thread.....is services air any good? would like to know, thinking of joining there; not much else out there at the moment; if somebody knows....please post; not you riccccccccardo.....please!!!!!
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A lot of Yanks heading overseas because the industry has tanked in America.
To efatnas: Please heed the wisdom of Mobutu, who posted these words of wisdom earlier in the thread:
Here is my advice to flying in the DRC - if it is contract flying paid by a company outside of DRC then fine but don't complain about ATC, runways, living conditions, security etc..... because your main reason for being there is the MONEY!
If you want to work for a local company there then like Mel Gibson said in Air America you have to be "Flying for a Cause" - either you want to save the world or you don't give a
about it! And that's the truth.
Money, accomodation, safety standards, overloading - are not relevent because like the hijackers in 911 you either believe what your doing or don't give a rats arse!
Keep in mind both ITAB/Air Katanga & Service Air (B727) are run by locals. You CAN NOT win against them. They will make fancy promises about the money they'll pay you, your living conditions, etc, and NOT follow thru on them. This is DRC, where corruption and b.s. is an art form. Anyone naive enough to sign up is ASKING for trouble.
'Nuf said.
To efatnas: Please heed the wisdom of Mobutu, who posted these words of wisdom earlier in the thread:
Here is my advice to flying in the DRC - if it is contract flying paid by a company outside of DRC then fine but don't complain about ATC, runways, living conditions, security etc..... because your main reason for being there is the MONEY!
If you want to work for a local company there then like Mel Gibson said in Air America you have to be "Flying for a Cause" - either you want to save the world or you don't give a
about it! And that's the truth.Money, accomodation, safety standards, overloading - are not relevent because like the hijackers in 911 you either believe what your doing or don't give a rats arse!
Keep in mind both ITAB/Air Katanga & Service Air (B727) are run by locals. You CAN NOT win against them. They will make fancy promises about the money they'll pay you, your living conditions, etc, and NOT follow thru on them. This is DRC, where corruption and b.s. is an art form. Anyone naive enough to sign up is ASKING for trouble.
'Nuf said.
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Thank you
Thank you Bongo Bongo for being so precise , but when you choose an Italian word such "Si guarda al fine"make sure the meaning of it.
R.V.
Ps another end do not use caps lock in order to impose your no sense incoherent ideas
R.V.
Ps another end do not use caps lock in order to impose your no sense incoherent ideas
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Hi Riccardo.
The way you write makes me very turned on. I like you and your opinions. I think I love you actually. Will you marry me? I also like to make the flight in the plane so we can do that together it is nice there.
<3
The way you write makes me very turned on. I like you and your opinions. I think I love you actually. Will you marry me? I also like to make the flight in the plane so we can do that together it is nice there.
<3
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Kleitnjie, are you the notorios Kleintjie Mabadasjhiima from Kisnagani, the sexiest ex-air hostess from LAC, designated to only service the cockpit?
Riccardo you cant miss this opportunity
Riccardo you cant miss this opportunity
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Can't touch this..........
9Q-CLK........
Well it is no surprise Jtrain that not even the courts in South Africa can touch this one......it belongs to the family of the President of DRC....former President Laurent Kabila's personal Limo, paid for by the father of the Nation Nelson Mandela in the first place.......does South Africa want a repeat of the bad old days when they had to fly around Africa instead of over it.....as usual the South African's were in way over their head AGAIN and lost!
Well it is no surprise Jtrain that not even the courts in South Africa can touch this one......it belongs to the family of the President of DRC....former President Laurent Kabila's personal Limo, paid for by the father of the Nation Nelson Mandela in the first place.......does South Africa want a repeat of the bad old days when they had to fly around Africa instead of over it.....as usual the South African's were in way over their head AGAIN and lost!