Air Mauritius Crisis
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At MK,both sides of the coin are the same anyways
Eta MKdreamliner,
Stop putting your emotions here for such a company!
Corruption and Political nominees have brought Air Mauritius to its doom days.
Can u imagine that a guy who was working in a Tobacco factory became the CEO of an airline?
And the bonus,he does not know anything about flying business and received the dog medal called GOSK!
So why siding in favour of these poor people?
If you are already an MK employee, just like Top Management usually says about anyone who dares to say or write anything on them in the press,you will be classified as a misguided employee and suspended on the spot.
And if you are not in MK, it's already a very good thing! Take a hike!
PD for someone who's been on this site for little more than a week I think it's a little rich carrying on as you are. This forum is for open conversation & if you tell another member to "take a hike" or "get a life" that is what you will be doing. The choice is yours. 4HP
Stop putting your emotions here for such a company!
Corruption and Political nominees have brought Air Mauritius to its doom days.
Can u imagine that a guy who was working in a Tobacco factory became the CEO of an airline?
And the bonus,he does not know anything about flying business and received the dog medal called GOSK!
So why siding in favour of these poor people?
If you are already an MK employee, just like Top Management usually says about anyone who dares to say or write anything on them in the press,you will be classified as a misguided employee and suspended on the spot.
And if you are not in MK, it's already a very good thing! Take a hike!
PD for someone who's been on this site for little more than a week I think it's a little rich carrying on as you are. This forum is for open conversation & if you tell another member to "take a hike" or "get a life" that is what you will be doing. The choice is yours. 4HP
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I had 'supposedly' a meeting with the chairman, sorry the ex-chairman, a few years back...Jesus 
!! If we're represented by individuals like such, I think Mk's lucky to have lasted that long!
Getting rid of expats 'sera le coup-d'grace!'. Air Mauritius....entirely operated by mauritians! Can u imagine such a thing? No harm intented, but ok, you can buy yourself training, you can even buy yourself a shiny suit, even better, find a way in....but experience mate, you just can't buy.
I had the chance of flying an Mk A340 Captain around...and he said: Why are you not flying for us?
That was my answer. I don't know how the locals fly, but what I can say is that there are a good bunch of us flying overseas, not because we couldn't get in Air Mauritius, no, because thats what we want to do...fly...thats why....Still always good to hear: Great flight, he showed us his Mauritian Magic !
!! If we're represented by individuals like such, I think Mk's lucky to have lasted that long! Getting rid of expats 'sera le coup-d'grace!'. Air Mauritius....entirely operated by mauritians! Can u imagine such a thing? No harm intented, but ok, you can buy yourself training, you can even buy yourself a shiny suit, even better, find a way in....but experience mate, you just can't buy.
I had the chance of flying an Mk A340 Captain around...and he said: Why are you not flying for us?
That was my answer. I don't know how the locals fly, but what I can say is that there are a good bunch of us flying overseas, not because we couldn't get in Air Mauritius, no, because thats what we want to do...fly...thats why....Still always good to hear: Great flight, he showed us his Mauritian Magic !
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Hi FLM,
I guess u are right.
Too bad that the local cadets are sitting home and not doing flying stuffs.
The Cadet thing is now something of the past and getting into MK is Mission Impossible.
Hey what aircrafts u fly around?
I guess u are right.
Too bad that the local cadets are sitting home and not doing flying stuffs.
The Cadet thing is now something of the past and getting into MK is Mission Impossible.
Hey what aircrafts u fly around?
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I don't doubt the abilities of all mauritian pilots, however I do agree with you on many points.
A company managed entirely by mauritians?
Even if I am mauritian, this seems absurd.
Mk will run into a more corruptible organisation.
The whole problem lies with the politicians.
Haven't heard anything from Malpa.
If it's me the outdated, please can someone provide updates?
A company managed entirely by mauritians?
Even if I am mauritian, this seems absurd.
Mk will run into a more corruptible organisation.
The whole problem lies with the politicians.
Haven't heard anything from Malpa.
If it's me the outdated, please can someone provide updates?
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Fat cats eat the fish first! You only take the bones
From what I read from a previous newspaper of Le Defi Plus on MK palabes,
the CEO gets a monthly salary of Rs800,000 and the same lucky man did get a productivity bonus of Rs1,200,000.
The EVPs productivity bonus as said on a radio programme in Radio Plus ranges up to Rs1,000,000.
Good job guys!
Finne bien amizer,faire jalsa and maja karo!
But why is MK sinking down today and begging for charity to the government?
Fat Cats of Top Management are 'soutirer' by the Government.
We pay taxes and this public money from 'laker sat' is injected into MK in hope to pull it out from its very very very bad state!
the CEO gets a monthly salary of Rs800,000 and the same lucky man did get a productivity bonus of Rs1,200,000.
The EVPs productivity bonus as said on a radio programme in Radio Plus ranges up to Rs1,000,000.
Good job guys!
Finne bien amizer,faire jalsa and maja karo!
But why is MK sinking down today and begging for charity to the government?
Fat Cats of Top Management are 'soutirer' by the Government.
We pay taxes and this public money from 'laker sat' is injected into MK in hope to pull it out from its very very very bad state!
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PD, I think you've already been warned by the moderator once so cannot see your point about starting a new thread when what you are saying is a repeat to what already exists.
By the way your command of the English language makes it quite difficult to understand what you are on about anyway!
C'est vrai non?
By the way your command of the English language makes it quite difficult to understand what you are on about anyway!
C'est vrai non?
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To the PD of the forum
I think it would be very nice if we keep this thread professional and readable with comments from various instead of a single person making unnecessary noise. We don't want low timers making noise here.
There will be some minor turbulence ahead within the company. Major points to be noted:
1.Seems like there is going to be some activity within the Pilot syndicate body: Again following the traditions of the company, race/religion is most likely to dictate the outcome. And the winner is...
2.How happy is management with the interference of the Tourism Minister? That will undoubtedly spark some fire in the short run.
3.May sound ridiculous at this stage: It is nearly confirmed that Air Mauritius will be spending a couple of millions on some local recruits for training (You'll understand why if you just study the surnames involved). But does it sound viable considering the current climate? Is it worth even considering them --> their training history says it all?
There will be some minor turbulence ahead within the company. Major points to be noted:
1.Seems like there is going to be some activity within the Pilot syndicate body: Again following the traditions of the company, race/religion is most likely to dictate the outcome. And the winner is...
2.How happy is management with the interference of the Tourism Minister? That will undoubtedly spark some fire in the short run.
3.May sound ridiculous at this stage: It is nearly confirmed that Air Mauritius will be spending a couple of millions on some local recruits for training (You'll understand why if you just study the surnames involved). But does it sound viable considering the current climate? Is it worth even considering them --> their training history says it all?
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Finally,here is some voice in this thread!
Let's talk as professional pilots :
1. Why u think there will be some voice soon when we all know that MALPA are 'yes man' people to Management?
There are rumours that some Mauritian pilots were in trouble recently and MALPA was always quiet.
2. The Tourism Minister was given the Air Mauritius file as the Prime Minister is himself too embarassed with this problem, and elections in constituency number 8 and soon, the general elections, are priorities. So, Management is obliged to abide to the government's orders and whether they are happy or not, it makes no difference.
3. Yes.The poor okes from 43 Air School again.Before SBM takes legal action with these fellows, MK is obliged to abide to the rules of their contract. Maybe someone can shed some light here about this I hope.
We all know the names of those cadets and is it coincidence that one name is even found in the parliament? , Just to summarize, no one cares if MK will invest n loose millions in training in hard days.
And the expats as usual will keep quiet and watch without any power. Where is your Expat Syndicate body gone in hard days ahead?
Hope this is not too much noise for sensitive ears. I am trying my best to be helpful here guys.
Let's talk as professional pilots :
1. Why u think there will be some voice soon when we all know that MALPA are 'yes man' people to Management?
There are rumours that some Mauritian pilots were in trouble recently and MALPA was always quiet. 2. The Tourism Minister was given the Air Mauritius file as the Prime Minister is himself too embarassed with this problem, and elections in constituency number 8 and soon, the general elections, are priorities. So, Management is obliged to abide to the government's orders and whether they are happy or not, it makes no difference.
3. Yes.The poor okes from 43 Air School again
.Before SBM takes legal action with these fellows, MK is obliged to abide to the rules of their contract. Maybe someone can shed some light here about this I hope.We all know the names of those cadets and is it coincidence that one name is even found in the parliament? ,
Just to summarize, no one cares if MK will invest n loose millions in training in hard days. And the expats as usual will keep quiet and watch without any power. Where is your Expat Syndicate body gone in hard days ahead?
Hope this is not too much noise for sensitive ears. I am trying my best to be helpful here guys.
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Guys the root of the problem here is politics just like captain_djaffar said. As long as inappropriate people operate the company, MK will face problems. This is the main thing that should be dealt with to get the company operate efficiently. Get the right people there and let the company operate without political influence.
As for expats, like I said before it is sad things are going this way but aircrafts are being grounded and flight frequency reduced so what do we do with the excess pilots? What would you propose PlaisanceDog if you had to deal with this problem knowing that your aim is prevent further loss?
The next thing for MK is long term investment so that the company is better prepared when the worldwide economic situation gets better. And I believe this is the logic behind getting the locals in. Furthermore, it is the objective of the company to get more locals in and you should be happy about that unless you are not a Mauritian. The few millions spent on the cadets cannot be considered a wastage, it is an investment. As for the names, well guys we are mature enough to understand that aviation is no place for amateurs and certainly not in an airline. If these guys are there it is because they were found suitable to be offered the opportunity to start a career as a pilot.
PlaisanceDog I used to think the same way as you are today. But will come a day when you will realise that 80% of what you hear is bull****. So do not jump to hasty conclusions. I respect what you think and say but it might not be the truth.
As for expats, like I said before it is sad things are going this way but aircrafts are being grounded and flight frequency reduced so what do we do with the excess pilots? What would you propose PlaisanceDog if you had to deal with this problem knowing that your aim is prevent further loss?
The next thing for MK is long term investment so that the company is better prepared when the worldwide economic situation gets better. And I believe this is the logic behind getting the locals in. Furthermore, it is the objective of the company to get more locals in and you should be happy about that unless you are not a Mauritian. The few millions spent on the cadets cannot be considered a wastage, it is an investment. As for the names, well guys we are mature enough to understand that aviation is no place for amateurs and certainly not in an airline. If these guys are there it is because they were found suitable to be offered the opportunity to start a career as a pilot.
PlaisanceDog I used to think the same way as you are today. But will come a day when you will realise that 80% of what you hear is bull****. So do not jump to hasty conclusions. I respect what you think and say but it might not be the truth.
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Hi Pd,
now these are interesting statements and questions.
Well btw, are you a pilot...student...or ?
if yes...you work for which company?
Mkdreamliner...i do agree with you on the fact that if aircrafts are grounded, definitely jobs will have to be compact and limited.
However the approach towards this manoeuvre is unfair,certainly, but it is quite logic that expats will be shown the exit way first.
That's a shame though.
Nearly £20,000 per month for the CEO, that's where they should have been cutting on first.
cheers.
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1. Why u think there will be some voice soon when we all know that MALPA are 'yes man' people to Management? :rolleyes: There are rumours that some Mauritian pilots were in trouble recently and MALPA was always quiet.2. The Tourism Minister was given the Air Mauritius file as the Prime Minister is himself too embarassed with this problem, and elections in constituency number 8 and soon, the general elections, are priorities. So, Management is obliged to abide to the government's orders and whether they are happy or not, it makes no difference. :rolleyes: 3. Yes.The poor okes from 43 Air School again :ugh:.Before SBM takes legal action with these fellows, MK is obliged to abide to the rules of their contract. Maybe someone can shed some light here about this I hope. We all know the names of those cadets and is it coincidence that one name is even found in the parliament? , :rolleyes: Just to summarize, no one cares if MK will invest n loose millions in training in hard days. :rolleyes: now these are nice statements and questions
Well btw, are you a pilot...student...or ?
if yes...you work for which company?
Mkdreamliner...i do agree with you on the fact that if aircrafts are grounded, definitely jobs will have to be compact and limited.
However the approach towards this manoeuvre is unfair,certainly, but it is quite logic that expats will be shown the exit way first.
That's a shame though.
Nearly £20,000 per month for the CEO, that's where they should have been cutting on first.
cheers.
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Reply from PD
Finally some blood in the veins of the dead thread of MK!
To answer your question on my identity, I don't have to answer it because we are all professional pilots here or wannabees.We respect each other in secrecy.
So, no ways I will tell you who I am coz u did not tell me who you are either.
But I do have respect for the guys who have made constructive information here, be it RaviMK,UAU and a very few more just to mention. But I don't have any emotions for ill-fated MK!
And believe me,they were never bull****ting coz the things they contributed helped many people get into MK today. These same people are here and reading these lines.I assure you!
How can MK be saved? This is not my problem and I will not come here and do politics of the company.I will certainly inform and tell the rumours walking around Plaisance.
Coz I am PlaisanceDog!
There are indications of panic in the pilots Syndicates and there is big dispute ahead. I overheard that MALPA is not in good terms with some people these days.
I have followed MK religion for long time enough.But the way things are today,no ways there is a chance that a pilot will not loose its job. The newspaper already said that the public money will make it survive till end March. Then,we don't know what's ahead.
Interesting that both expat and local pilots are imposed indirect 'lev paker aller' (translation : get the hell out of here if you are a revolutionary pilot with good intentions), VRS, 2 years leave without pay, end of contract and bye bye, reduced benefits and duty travel, reduced benefits as per Mem. of Understading etc.
There are rumours that MALPA is getting jumpy with these forcings but still 'p tal zot gros derriere' (translation : sitting down very nicely on their non-ejectable seats).
As for the expats, you shout, then, YOU GO!
To answer your question on my identity, I don't have to answer it because we are all professional pilots here or wannabees.We respect each other in secrecy.
So, no ways I will tell you who I am coz u did not tell me who you are either.
But I do have respect for the guys who have made constructive information here, be it RaviMK,UAU and a very few more just to mention. But I don't have any emotions for ill-fated MK!
And believe me,they were never bull****ting coz the things they contributed helped many people get into MK today. These same people are here and reading these lines.I assure you!
How can MK be saved?
This is not my problem and I will not come here and do politics of the company.I will certainly inform and tell the rumours walking around Plaisance.Coz I am PlaisanceDog!
There are indications of panic in the pilots Syndicates and there is big dispute ahead. I overheard that MALPA is not in good terms with some people these days.
I have followed MK religion for long time enough.But the way things are today,no ways there is a chance that a pilot will not loose its job. The newspaper already said that the public money will make it survive till end March. Then,we don't know what's ahead.
Interesting that both expat and local pilots are imposed indirect 'lev paker aller' (translation : get the hell out of here if you are a revolutionary pilot with good intentions), VRS, 2 years leave without pay, end of contract and bye bye, reduced benefits and duty travel, reduced benefits as per Mem. of Understading etc.
There are rumours that MALPA is getting jumpy with these forcings but still 'p tal zot gros derriere' (translation : sitting down very nicely on their non-ejectable seats).
As for the expats, you shout, then, YOU GO!
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well if you read my previous posts you would have an aperçu of what I do.
And frankly, I really do not have any intention nor am I interested in knowing who you are. Forget about it.
out of curiosity, it's when your priesthoodship?
And frankly, I really do not have any intention nor am I interested in knowing who you are. Forget about it.
I have followed MK religion for long time enough.
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MK debate and not a church stuff here!
Priesthoodship? what the is that?
If u want it,you'll get it!
Consider it today man! You are invited.Be my guest with pleasure!
is that? If u want it,you'll get it!
Consider it today man! You are invited.Be my guest with pleasure!
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Dear guys/Gals..
Thanks a lot for the huge numbers of PMs I received and which I will not respond concerning MK issues..
I no longer form part of the MK family and it's sad to see all the hard work we've done here going down the ladder..
I felt obliged to delete the last ab-initio pilot scheme 2008 thread as it was weird to continue the debates on a thread with a non-existent title..
The best pilots at MK are gone,going and will be forced to go with the present situation of the company that is not inspiring trust and job security to anyone..
There are shocking stories that have been reported to me through PMs and I will not answer anything on behalf of the information I received which confirms the true side of it..
I encourage wannabees to freeze their plans to get into MK at this stage..
It is perfectly normal that local and inexperienced pilots will soon be invited to join since Management is getting rid of all expats (first, those who would certainly rebell) and a few locals as well (through made up arguments), therefore,this will create some vacancies..
But beware of the conditions of employment as I have been advised that the recent intakes have signed a very discriminating agreement..
I also congratulate a very brave pilot who made constructive suggestions on a recent article I read on Judgement Day..
It's nice to hear he is onboard here in UAE and shinning..
I think the Mauritian dream is today a nightmare and most good people I once knew in Air Mauritius are all busy packing up..
Hope this thread still serves its purpose to inform and create awareness..
Happy landings and see you all..
RaviMK..
Thanks a lot for the huge numbers of PMs I received and which I will not respond concerning MK issues..
I no longer form part of the MK family and it's sad to see all the hard work we've done here going down the ladder..
I felt obliged to delete the last ab-initio pilot scheme 2008 thread as it was weird to continue the debates on a thread with a non-existent title..
The best pilots at MK are gone,going and will be forced to go with the present situation of the company that is not inspiring trust and job security to anyone..
There are shocking stories that have been reported to me through PMs and I will not answer anything on behalf of the information I received which confirms the true side of it..
I encourage wannabees to freeze their plans to get into MK at this stage..
It is perfectly normal that local and inexperienced pilots will soon be invited to join since Management is getting rid of all expats (first, those who would certainly rebell) and a few locals as well (through made up arguments), therefore,this will create some vacancies..
But beware of the conditions of employment as I have been advised that the recent intakes have signed a very discriminating agreement..
I also congratulate a very brave pilot who made constructive suggestions on a recent article I read on Judgement Day..
It's nice to hear he is onboard here in UAE and shinning..
I think the Mauritian dream is today a nightmare and most good people I once knew in Air Mauritius are all busy packing up..
Hope this thread still serves its purpose to inform and create awareness..
Happy landings and see you all..
RaviMK..
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I've been following this thread on the sideline and I must say, I hardly understand what the dog's bark is meant to mean!?
Sounds like it's fishing for info.
Barking up a tree, be it wrong or right!
Simply don't know, it's too confusing!
p.s. Before you claim that English isn't your mother tongue or first language. It isn't mine either.
Sounds like it's fishing for info.
Barking up a tree, be it wrong or right!
Simply don't know, it's too confusing!
p.s. Before you claim that English isn't your mother tongue or first language. It isn't mine either.
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Woof Woof!
Woof Woof! 
I like to bark and I can bite!
Hi RaviMK. Thought u were dead but u are alive.Thanks Jesus.
There are rumours that the Human Resources Office at Plaisance made a cosmetic meeting with the poor okes from 43 Air School lately.
Just like politicians promise before elections,they were told that they are starting their ATR Courses in a few days.
Good work for these fellows.Your political backings and lobby was great! Keep the job in hand!
The HR people are very confused these days as they have printed many envelopes of End of Contract and Bye Bye letters.
They may be feeling shy to give it in hand to the main parties as Management is too embarassed to dismiss more than 100 pilots this month.
I hear that now,the pilots Syndicates want to participate in the next Air Mauritius Public Manifestation.
There are rumours that the CEO will resign soon.
Pilots now can only wait for the tsunami to wipe off all the rubbish from Air Mauritius once and for all.
WOOF WOOF!
I like to bark and I can bite!
Hi RaviMK. Thought u were dead but u are alive.Thanks Jesus.
There are rumours that the Human Resources Office at Plaisance made a cosmetic meeting with the poor okes from 43 Air School lately.
Just like politicians promise before elections,they were told that they are starting their ATR Courses in a few days.
Good work for these fellows.Your political backings and lobby was great! Keep the job in hand!
The HR people are very confused these days as they have printed many envelopes of End of Contract and Bye Bye letters.
They may be feeling shy to give it in hand to the main parties as Management is too embarassed to dismiss more than 100 pilots this month.
I hear that now,the pilots Syndicates want to participate in the next Air Mauritius Public Manifestation.
There are rumours that the CEO will resign soon.
Pilots now can only wait for the tsunami to wipe off all the rubbish from Air Mauritius once and for all.
WOOF WOOF!
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2009 and hope. No ways!
I wonder!
WOOF WOOF
Qatar was hoping to get into Mauritius and the Government chopped them down since Emirates was already starting to kill Air Mauritius.
So now,when MK is dead and begging for financial aid,they seized this opportunity to propose it a solution by bailing it out, buy the necessary shares so that they can rule it and come to Mauritius.
This is news a few weeks back when MK started the fatal steep dive.This same news just came out from the recycle bins of Plaisance.
I am a stray dog there and I get good stuffs in the bins.
But this negotiation was under the condition that all incompetent Managers,Management Pilots and influential nominees will be either broomed out or downgraded as Qatar was bringing the big guys to run their show.
Since there is politics and again the government favours the existing incompetent people that fly and rule MK,both refused and at the same time,they asked Air France to wait for a while.So,they just bought time.
What is true and which everyone is seeing and talking in Plaisance :
The expats will all be broomed out by batches and this is true.
NAV and NAU aircrafts are already on their way out and being removed from Air Mauritius.
CEO went to France to negotiate the famous Hedging Contract and since there was no exit clause,he received a good kick in the but.He also went to Toulouse and himself and his Top Management were begging Airbus to cancel the new A330.They could not as the firm order and date of delivery conditions could not be altered and stopped.Too late as the aircraft is already on production line.
The 2 A319 are leased out shortly in Africa. They are contributing too much looses for the company.
Since they advertised for crew and no one wants to work in this hell,they are forced to beg the locals to come forward now.Of course,we all know space is being done for the family members and those cherished by politics.
43 Air School Training is thing of the past now and no Mauritians will ever be sent there.
Cheaper training schools are on the ajenda and the Singapore option is just a tender issue right now.
The company is being downsized,part time work only and crew will not benefit anything free.
It will be fun to see who will dare work in such a place.
Good luck Okes.You deserve it.
WOOF WOOF
WOOF WOOF
Qatar was hoping to get into Mauritius and the Government chopped them down since Emirates was already starting to kill Air Mauritius.
So now,when MK is dead and begging for financial aid,they seized this opportunity to propose it a solution by bailing it out, buy the necessary shares so that they can rule it and come to Mauritius.
This is news a few weeks back when MK started the fatal steep dive.This same news just came out from the recycle bins of Plaisance.
I am a stray dog there and I get good stuffs in the bins.
But this negotiation was under the condition that all incompetent Managers,Management Pilots and influential nominees will be either broomed out or downgraded as Qatar was bringing the big guys to run their show.
Since there is politics and again the government favours the existing incompetent people that fly and rule MK,both refused and at the same time,they asked Air France to wait for a while.So,they just bought time.
What is true and which everyone is seeing and talking in Plaisance :
The expats will all be broomed out by batches and this is true.
NAV and NAU aircrafts are already on their way out and being removed from Air Mauritius.
CEO went to France to negotiate the famous Hedging Contract and since there was no exit clause,he received a good kick in the but.He also went to Toulouse and himself and his Top Management were begging Airbus to cancel the new A330.They could not as the firm order and date of delivery conditions could not be altered and stopped.Too late as the aircraft is already on production line.
The 2 A319 are leased out shortly in Africa. They are contributing too much looses for the company.
Since they advertised for crew and no one wants to work in this hell,they are forced to beg the locals to come forward now.Of course,we all know space is being done for the family members and those cherished by politics.
43 Air School Training is thing of the past now and no Mauritians will ever be sent there.
Cheaper training schools are on the ajenda and the Singapore option is just a tender issue right now.
The company is being downsized,part time work only and crew will not benefit anything free.
It will be fun to see who will dare work in such a place.
Good luck Okes.You deserve it.
WOOF WOOF
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