SA man gets 16 years in Kabul
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SA man gets 16 years in Kabul
This may be old news, but i heard the story on the news today. Could it be a pilot?
SAfrican jailed in Afghanistan for heroin smuggling
A South African man has been jailed for 16 years in Afghanistan for trying to smuggle out nearly six kilograms (13 pounds) of heroin in bottles for body-building supplements, a court said Tuesday.
The 42-year-old, whose name was not released, was arrested around September last year at Kabul International Airport and his conviction has been upheld by an appeal court, said the Criminal Justice Task Force, an anti-drugs court.
He has been sentenced to 16 years in prison and ordered to pay a fine of 1.05 million Afghanis (21,000 dollars), it said in a statement.
He was found trying to take the heroin out of the country in bottles for body-building supplements, the force's media officer told AFP. Another man had been arrested in South Africa in connection with the case, he said.
Afghanistan is the world's leading producer of opium and heroin.
The government and its international allies are trying to end drugs production by cracking down on traffickers and persuading farmers to grow other crops.
SAfrican jailed in Afghanistan for heroin smuggling
A South African man has been jailed for 16 years in Afghanistan for trying to smuggle out nearly six kilograms (13 pounds) of heroin in bottles for body-building supplements, a court said Tuesday.
The 42-year-old, whose name was not released, was arrested around September last year at Kabul International Airport and his conviction has been upheld by an appeal court, said the Criminal Justice Task Force, an anti-drugs court.
He has been sentenced to 16 years in prison and ordered to pay a fine of 1.05 million Afghanis (21,000 dollars), it said in a statement.
He was found trying to take the heroin out of the country in bottles for body-building supplements, the force's media officer told AFP. Another man had been arrested in South Africa in connection with the case, he said.
Afghanistan is the world's leading producer of opium and heroin.
The government and its international allies are trying to end drugs production by cracking down on traffickers and persuading farmers to grow other crops.
Afghanistan Drug Smuggling
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Nope, he wasn't/isn't a pilot, but he did spend a lot of time in the air (helicopters) as the head of security in Afghanistan for a major US contractor. It is a sad story indeed -- more so for his family perhaps than for himself. For him it was a (selfish) choice, but his wife and two children back in SA are innocent victims whose lives were also shattered by this.
I have seen the inside of that particular prison (luckily not as an unwilling "guest"). It is truly a harsh, desolate, and filthy place; exactly as one would imagine the worst prisons were a few centuries ago. There is little chance of emerging many years later with any sanity left -- never mind any resemblance to the person who entered the prison years earlier.
The best that come of this is that others thinking of making "a fortune" this way will give their heads a shake. It sounds cliché but we do need to remember, we only get this one chance.
Nope, he wasn't/isn't a pilot, but he did spend a lot of time in the air (helicopters) as the head of security in Afghanistan for a major US contractor. It is a sad story indeed -- more so for his family perhaps than for himself. For him it was a (selfish) choice, but his wife and two children back in SA are innocent victims whose lives were also shattered by this.
I have seen the inside of that particular prison (luckily not as an unwilling "guest"). It is truly a harsh, desolate, and filthy place; exactly as one would imagine the worst prisons were a few centuries ago. There is little chance of emerging many years later with any sanity left -- never mind any resemblance to the person who entered the prison years earlier.
The best that come of this is that others thinking of making "a fortune" this way will give their heads a shake. It sounds cliché but we do need to remember, we only get this one chance.
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As sad as it may sound, I'll bet many other "innocent victims" (IE: parents/siblings of adicts) would not feel sorry for a pusher's "inocent victims" - it is sad. Feel squat for the pusher, hope he rots in jail
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Alot of third world countries would have taken pity on the man and let him off with the death penalty.
Drugs fund terrorism and therefore as bad as I feel for anyone rotting in such a place, he got what he deserved.
Drugs fund terrorism and therefore as bad as I feel for anyone rotting in such a place, he got what he deserved.
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he got what he deserved
As far as I am concerned the human race by now should be intelligent enough to not need stupid rules against booze, dope, helmets, whores, driving speeds, being seem with a woman in an arab country, pissing in the pool etc etc etc etc.
We should be able to regulate ourselves by now and stop locking away people that essentially cause us no harm just because they cause themselves harm. Its primitive and dumb. And it shows how dim we all still are.
I guess I am just wasting my time............
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I feel so strongly about this I want to make it more clear:
As far as I am concerned the human race by now should be intelligent enough to not need stupid rules against booze, dope, helmets, whores, driving speeds, being seem with a woman in an arab country, pissing in the pool etc etc etc etc.
We should be able to regulate ourselves by now and stop locking away people that essentially cause us no harm just because they cause themselves harm. Its primitive and dumb. And it shows how dim we all still are.
As far as I am concerned the human race by now should be intelligent enough to not need stupid rules against booze, dope, helmets, whores, driving speeds, being seem with a woman in an arab country, pissing in the pool etc etc etc etc.
We should be able to regulate ourselves by now and stop locking away people that essentially cause us no harm just because they cause themselves harm. Its primitive and dumb. And it shows how dim we all still are.
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yokebearer,
Please clarify something for me...
Let's assume for a second that this guy got his drugs out of there and into the town where you live and they made their way to the school where your kids were scholars.
Now, kids being what they are, (ie- influencable, open to peer pressure and dares etc) your kids end up taking said drugs and become addicted or dead,
IS THIS BECAUSE THEY ARE STUPID??
And is it also safe to say that you would not go to the cops and look for justice in any way, because by defenition, YOU would be the logical culprit for being a NEGLECTFUL PARENT and raising those idiots?
Unless you exercised the intelligence you so highly value and refrained from breeding...... dare we hope??
Man, am I ever greatful we are not related........
Please clarify something for me...
Let's assume for a second that this guy got his drugs out of there and into the town where you live and they made their way to the school where your kids were scholars.
Now, kids being what they are, (ie- influencable, open to peer pressure and dares etc) your kids end up taking said drugs and become addicted or dead,
IS THIS BECAUSE THEY ARE STUPID??
And is it also safe to say that you would not go to the cops and look for justice in any way, because by defenition, YOU would be the logical culprit for being a NEGLECTFUL PARENT and raising those idiots?
Unless you exercised the intelligence you so highly value and refrained from breeding...... dare we hope??
Man, am I ever greatful we are not related........
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He will be multi lingual upon release?
as the head of security in Afghanistan for a major US contractor
stop locking away people that essentially cause us no harm just because they cause themselves harm.
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Ok Sousa , Load and Geezer - I 'll bite. Why don't you three quickly run off and prosecute all the guys selling booze and cigarettes and fast cars and fatty meat and everything else that can kill your impressionable kids.
You can outlaw drugs as much as you can - its not going to make any difference when you die of something else they didn't outlaw and therefore protected your ass against - it only means some guy dies in a prison on Afghanistan.
Sad
( Oh and one more thing - thanks for the insults when all I did was express my opinion in an open forum. Bet you would'nt call me a moron if you sat next to me in the 340 over the Pacific and I said that I think outlawing drugs is'nt solving the problem. Bet you would actually rub your chin and think twice before you come up with the word moron. We might not be related - but we share the skies and the office. How about you show some respect)
You can outlaw drugs as much as you can - its not going to make any difference when you die of something else they didn't outlaw and therefore protected your ass against - it only means some guy dies in a prison on Afghanistan.
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( Oh and one more thing - thanks for the insults when all I did was express my opinion in an open forum. Bet you would'nt call me a moron if you sat next to me in the 340 over the Pacific and I said that I think outlawing drugs is'nt solving the problem. Bet you would actually rub your chin and think twice before you come up with the word moron. We might not be related - but we share the skies and the office. How about you show some respect)
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that I think outlawing drugs is'nt solving the problem.
So the way you put it earned the term Moron.
There must be a scale on a lot of things after which we say no. Fast cars have speed limits, not for the safety of the Moron inside but for others. Your can have booze, but to be in public creating problems for others while under the influence is a no no. Cigarettes, go ahead and smoke, it only bothers me that I have to pay for your dumb ass when you get Lung Cancer. I think somewhere we may agree on matters, I dont want to be burdened with your problems and you shouldnt be burdened with mine, but in many cases there has to be an authority who will look out for us. Be it the Police or whatever.
The way I understand your "personal freedoms" is that anything goes with no stops. In the real world that does not work.
And why would I want to fly across the pacific, been there years ago, folks didnt like me then either.
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With all due respect, if you publish a post that basically says that the rest of the human race are effectively morons for having laws and law enforcement then you open yourself up to being called names.
It is one of the fundamental things that makes us human that we very often exhibit flawed if not downright crazy judgement. We drink, take drugs, go whoring, drive fast, with and without helmets and the lucky ones get to live and talk about it tomorrow. Darwin's theory takes care of the rest.
That is why we have those laws, to be a check to the more reckless among us and a (often useless) deterrent to the crooks. To suggest self-policing for the human race is nothing short of serious wishful thinking in the extreme.
Had you actually said that you were in favour of outlawing drugs then you may have been taken seriously. What your post said to me was......
" there can be as many of anything available to anyone who is stupid eneough to use them, poor weakling humans, those of us who live on the moral high ground will abstain, thank you".
It has nothing to do with you biting, either, more with the fact that you preach a doctrine of some master species that should be above all the temptations of this sordid little rock we inhabit and then get bent out of shape when people think your opinion is "moronic".
Just out of morbid curiosity, would you advocate a program of eugenics to help form this iron willed superbeing you aspire to, or am I now the one being moronic?
B Sousa in my opinion sums it up pretty well when he says...
Your statement...
is true in many ways. Yes, I and my impressionable kids will die of something, so will you funnily eneough. It may well even be something that was not legislated against.
My family has a history of cancer and to the best of my knowledge there are no laws protecting me from being given cancer, if you can find a politician who will sponsor those laws, I will sign on immediately. Believe me though when I tell you that until that happens I will definitely regulate myself from acquiring that if I possibly can, because I agree wholeheartedly with you that I would be stupid in the extreme if I went out and willingly got it.
About the only place we have common ground is the bit where some bloke will maybe die in an Afghani jail for not being able to regulate himself.
If he was silly eneough to try and smuggle drugs, then he should count himself lucky it was there, where he has a chance no matter how slim of living through his sentence. He could always have tried it in Singapore or Thailand where his lack of judgement would have been terminal.
It is one of the fundamental things that makes us human that we very often exhibit flawed if not downright crazy judgement. We drink, take drugs, go whoring, drive fast, with and without helmets and the lucky ones get to live and talk about it tomorrow. Darwin's theory takes care of the rest.
That is why we have those laws, to be a check to the more reckless among us and a (often useless) deterrent to the crooks. To suggest self-policing for the human race is nothing short of serious wishful thinking in the extreme.
Had you actually said that you were in favour of outlawing drugs then you may have been taken seriously. What your post said to me was......
" there can be as many of anything available to anyone who is stupid eneough to use them, poor weakling humans, those of us who live on the moral high ground will abstain, thank you".
It has nothing to do with you biting, either, more with the fact that you preach a doctrine of some master species that should be above all the temptations of this sordid little rock we inhabit and then get bent out of shape when people think your opinion is "moronic".
Just out of morbid curiosity, would you advocate a program of eugenics to help form this iron willed superbeing you aspire to, or am I now the one being moronic?
B Sousa in my opinion sums it up pretty well when he says...
There must be a scale on a lot of things after which we say no. but in many cases there has to be an authority who will look out for us. Be it the Police or whatever.
You can outlaw drugs as much as you can - its not going to make any difference when you die of something else they didn't outlaw and therefore protected your ass against - it only means some guy dies in a prison on Afghanistan.
My family has a history of cancer and to the best of my knowledge there are no laws protecting me from being given cancer, if you can find a politician who will sponsor those laws, I will sign on immediately. Believe me though when I tell you that until that happens I will definitely regulate myself from acquiring that if I possibly can, because I agree wholeheartedly with you that I would be stupid in the extreme if I went out and willingly got it.
About the only place we have common ground is the bit where some bloke will maybe die in an Afghani jail for not being able to regulate himself.
If he was silly eneough to try and smuggle drugs, then he should count himself lucky it was there, where he has a chance no matter how slim of living through his sentence. He could always have tried it in Singapore or Thailand where his lack of judgement would have been terminal.
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Bet you would'nt call me a moron if you sat next to me in the 340 over the Pacific and I said that I think outlawing drugs is'nt solving the problem. Bet you would actually rub your chin and think twice before you come up with the word moron.
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The more I think about Yoke bearer, the more I equate him with a few uniformed I have known over the years. Everything is so orderly. They have a good job, nice home and a structured family. They have a 365 day schedule, and for gods sake, dont mess with it. Gather the little black bag and go to the airport, do the job come back in a few days and have a list of little orderly things to do before going back to their orderly little world.
In the meantime they have no clue whatsoever about the world around them until something goes haywire within the orderly little family. The good money keeps them away from the common folk so its easy to say they are not "one of us"..
Whats funny is when someone who is lower on the social scale burglarizes their home or robs them, my how they scream for justice. They have been violated to the max by those whom they wish to live free of rules.
And of course
those are the ones who pay through the nose when Daughter gets knocked up or Junior gets caught stealing a car, or the Wifey is at home in bed when Mr orderly comes home, only to find shes taking care of the neighborhood. But its off to church on sunday and all is well on monday.
Certainly the owner of a Glass house throwing big rocks.
I think even Wikepedia has put a name to it. Anal Retentive..
And if he was driving my A340, I would catch another flight.
In the meantime they have no clue whatsoever about the world around them until something goes haywire within the orderly little family. The good money keeps them away from the common folk so its easy to say they are not "one of us"..
Whats funny is when someone who is lower on the social scale burglarizes their home or robs them, my how they scream for justice. They have been violated to the max by those whom they wish to live free of rules.
And of course
those of us who live on the moral high ground will abstain, thank you".
Certainly the owner of a Glass house throwing big rocks.
I think even Wikepedia has put a name to it. Anal Retentive..
And if he was driving my A340, I would catch another flight.
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Mercenary (I know 'security consultant' sounds better these days) gone Drug dealer .Was probably personnal consumption to forget all the people he killed , tortured ...
Amusing demonstration of immanent justice .
Amusing demonstration of immanent justice .
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Was probably personnal consumption to forget all the people he killed , tortured ...