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What's going on?!
B200Drvr I couldn't agree more with you about the craziness of going to that kind of selection and expenses to get a job in the 158th (out of 177) country in the world for human developement.
I know that the domestic situation looks bad right now but on the other hand my company has been hiring people with 2-300 hundred hours on type all the summer long (not anymore due to end of the season).
I got my jet job in march with a type and 400 piston hours and all I had to do was going in person to some 20 companies around EU, all my schoolmates got airline jobs in 2007-8 and one of them has just got a job (last month!) with FR with 200 pistons hours.
Consider about Nigeria that they have kind of a civil war down there, for not mentioning +100 tyes of malaria (allegedly very easy to get) and every kind of disease you can possibly expect to find in an exotic place like that. (nothing against Nigeria and Nigerians but these are pretty much the facts, and please correct me if I said anything wrong).
What about north Africa? Allegedly much nicer companies and lifestyle there, if you don't get anything in EU. Besides market is gonna be better in 3-4 months anyway. Why don't you guys wait a little bit or look better around before getting into this crazy queue to go there?!
I know that the domestic situation looks bad right now but on the other hand my company has been hiring people with 2-300 hundred hours on type all the summer long (not anymore due to end of the season).
I got my jet job in march with a type and 400 piston hours and all I had to do was going in person to some 20 companies around EU, all my schoolmates got airline jobs in 2007-8 and one of them has just got a job (last month!) with FR with 200 pistons hours.
Consider about Nigeria that they have kind of a civil war down there, for not mentioning +100 tyes of malaria (allegedly very easy to get) and every kind of disease you can possibly expect to find in an exotic place like that. (nothing against Nigeria and Nigerians but these are pretty much the facts, and please correct me if I said anything wrong).
What about north Africa? Allegedly much nicer companies and lifestyle there, if you don't get anything in EU. Besides market is gonna be better in 3-4 months anyway. Why don't you guys wait a little bit or look better around before getting into this crazy queue to go there?!
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The selection process is about getting the most suitable candidates for the job. Please don't go bashing the country involved. I am not sure you will get a job with any reasonable airline in the world without going through a similar selection process. But I do agree that if successful all expenses must be refunded.
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Hey Maxfly1 can you send me the profile. I have an interview the beginning of November. You can send it to [email protected]. Thanks.
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Hi
I'm type rated pilot on 737 cl and ng........
also I am ivited by arik air on 26-27 sim assestment...
Please could you give me the flight proflie....
thanks
I'm type rated pilot on 737 cl and ng........
also I am ivited by arik air on 26-27 sim assestment...
Please could you give me the flight proflie....
thanks
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I don't know how expat pilots there survive. I will find out soon, because my company is sending me there for 4 weeks. For what I've heard so far not everybody survives to Africa, especially thanks to malaria (in that particular country life expectation is around 44 years). I would be very happy to avoid the "safari" but, as a quite unexperienced F/O, that's very likely the only way to have my contract renewed and keep my little job in EU (if I also manage to keep my medical licence safe from mosquitos & co...
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PLTFORLIFE
I didn't mean to argue about the need for a selection to get any job or the give any personal bad comment about Nigeria (I haven't been there yet so I couldn't). It's just some datas I got on internet.
I was just wondering if the situation was so bad all around the world that even experienced pilots from rich countries (also USA?!) are fighting to get a job in a place that is not exactly safe and where allegedly (pilotjobsnetwork) the conditions are quite bad.
As I said I have to go there for a few weeks too and but I have no much choice about that. Only thing I can do for now is to start a thread to get at least some information about how not to get in any trouble while I'm there, any contribution will be very very appreciated.
Thank you all and wish you good luck!
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PLTFORLIFE
I didn't mean to argue about the need for a selection to get any job or the give any personal bad comment about Nigeria (I haven't been there yet so I couldn't). It's just some datas I got on internet.
I was just wondering if the situation was so bad all around the world that even experienced pilots from rich countries (also USA?!) are fighting to get a job in a place that is not exactly safe and where allegedly (pilotjobsnetwork) the conditions are quite bad.
As I said I have to go there for a few weeks too and but I have no much choice about that. Only thing I can do for now is to start a thread to get at least some information about how not to get in any trouble while I'm there, any contribution will be very very appreciated.
Thank you all and wish you good luck!
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Get a repellent and a mosquito net. There are no mosquitoes during a day when it's hot, be careful at night. When you go to sleep, spray your room with a repellent and leave for a bout 10-15 minutes and keep Air conditioning on full blast in your room at all times. Hang a net over the bed.
Don't walk around in shorts and sandals and spray yourself. And ask somebody before you go outside the hotel or compound about safety.
Africa is actually very pretty and fun.
Don't walk around in shorts and sandals and spray yourself. And ask somebody before you go outside the hotel or compound about safety.
Africa is actually very pretty and fun.
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My interview experience
I just got back from London for the Arik Interview and this was my experience:
The hotel: Its the IBIS Gatwick. Its European Standard. One fitted sheet, a blanket and one small pillow. The room itself was just a little larger than that of a mid to large size cruise ship room. What I'm trying to say is that the Hotel for the interview in London would never pass the contract standards of my current regional carrier employer. Breakfast is included with your stay, but its nothing to write home about. The room is clean and does have a T.V.
The interview: The people at OAA were very relaxed. I enjoyed that part of the experience. Day one included the personality test which was the biggest waste of time I've ever experienced. I was asked the same questions what seemed like 400 times. There was also a test that used rudder pedals and a joy stick (fairly simple). Then there was the memory test (you were given altitudes airspeeds and radio frequencies and then asked to input them back into the computer. The math portion was pretty easy (basic addition, division, multiplication, subtraction, and very bery basic algebra). There were two word problems regarding planes leaving their respective airports at "x" time and travel "X" MPH. You had to solve for the point where they would meet. For the ATP questions there were less than 10 or 15 and you may want to study converting feet to meters because a couple of them were in meters which we don't really use in the U.S. There was a portion of the exam including interpreting instruments and having to I.D. which aircraft represented the instrument indications (using RMI, Heading indicator, and attitude indicator). It was pretty basic.
The actual interview was 20 or so minutes just giving your background, and the age old what would you do if captain wasn't following SOP's, or if he were drinking prior to flight. There were two aerodynamic questions one of which was: Why are engines mounted on the wings instead of the fuselage. The other was why we have swept wings on jet aircraft.
The sim was steep turns and flying the complete approach plate for Shannon Ireland's ILS to 24. (ndb intercepting and tracking after dept., including ndb holding (two turns) the the ils to full stop.
My friend who works for Evergreen Aviation selling their ground services was just there last week (lagos) and gave me the following report. Take it for what its worth: "Still here in HELL! City is like a de-militarized zone after a holocaust. Run like hell man. Don't come here unless you have a roundtrip ticket and you came to build huts with your church.
The city is rather clean in comparison to India but still by US standards there is 0 relevance to anything you and my have ever known. I suggest if you want to move to a place like this come here for 2 weeks and you will know. The airport is in much better condition than I expected. There are no more pirates storming airplanes here. around 2000 they gave shoot to kill orders to the airport security. The terminals are in good condition but the bathrooms have no potty seats and no toilet paper. People stink and just don't get it.
Arik Airlines is one airline we will service here and they are flying old junker F-27's.
Hope that doesn't offend anyone, but I'm just passing on one American's experience there last week. He was staying in a posh hotel and experienced rolling blackouts the entire time.
I personally have decided to not take the job is offered. I realized one thing while in London for the interview which is that there are limits to what I will endure to stay in aviation or advance my career in aviation.
Good luck to all. PM me with any other questions.
The hotel: Its the IBIS Gatwick. Its European Standard. One fitted sheet, a blanket and one small pillow. The room itself was just a little larger than that of a mid to large size cruise ship room. What I'm trying to say is that the Hotel for the interview in London would never pass the contract standards of my current regional carrier employer. Breakfast is included with your stay, but its nothing to write home about. The room is clean and does have a T.V.
The interview: The people at OAA were very relaxed. I enjoyed that part of the experience. Day one included the personality test which was the biggest waste of time I've ever experienced. I was asked the same questions what seemed like 400 times. There was also a test that used rudder pedals and a joy stick (fairly simple). Then there was the memory test (you were given altitudes airspeeds and radio frequencies and then asked to input them back into the computer. The math portion was pretty easy (basic addition, division, multiplication, subtraction, and very bery basic algebra). There were two word problems regarding planes leaving their respective airports at "x" time and travel "X" MPH. You had to solve for the point where they would meet. For the ATP questions there were less than 10 or 15 and you may want to study converting feet to meters because a couple of them were in meters which we don't really use in the U.S. There was a portion of the exam including interpreting instruments and having to I.D. which aircraft represented the instrument indications (using RMI, Heading indicator, and attitude indicator). It was pretty basic.
The actual interview was 20 or so minutes just giving your background, and the age old what would you do if captain wasn't following SOP's, or if he were drinking prior to flight. There were two aerodynamic questions one of which was: Why are engines mounted on the wings instead of the fuselage. The other was why we have swept wings on jet aircraft.
The sim was steep turns and flying the complete approach plate for Shannon Ireland's ILS to 24. (ndb intercepting and tracking after dept., including ndb holding (two turns) the the ils to full stop.
My friend who works for Evergreen Aviation selling their ground services was just there last week (lagos) and gave me the following report. Take it for what its worth: "Still here in HELL! City is like a de-militarized zone after a holocaust. Run like hell man. Don't come here unless you have a roundtrip ticket and you came to build huts with your church.
The city is rather clean in comparison to India but still by US standards there is 0 relevance to anything you and my have ever known. I suggest if you want to move to a place like this come here for 2 weeks and you will know. The airport is in much better condition than I expected. There are no more pirates storming airplanes here. around 2000 they gave shoot to kill orders to the airport security. The terminals are in good condition but the bathrooms have no potty seats and no toilet paper. People stink and just don't get it.
Arik Airlines is one airline we will service here and they are flying old junker F-27's.
Hope that doesn't offend anyone, but I'm just passing on one American's experience there last week. He was staying in a posh hotel and experienced rolling blackouts the entire time.
I personally have decided to not take the job is offered. I realized one thing while in London for the interview which is that there are limits to what I will endure to stay in aviation or advance my career in aviation.
Good luck to all. PM me with any other questions.
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Assessment London Sept 26-27
So, at least three of us on Sept 26-27. I'll be happy to meet up with you guys for dinner and/or cocktails on Thu. night.
Now for the all important planning. Where's a good place to go Saturday night? Is it easy to go to downtown London (it's been almost 20 years since I was there, and I remember a train right at the airport).
Now to the mosquitoes and malaria. Do I need shots before I go there? Should I bring insect repellent (ie, will I be able to bring it on a plane?)?
Now for the all important planning. Where's a good place to go Saturday night? Is it easy to go to downtown London (it's been almost 20 years since I was there, and I remember a train right at the airport).
Now to the mosquitoes and malaria. Do I need shots before I go there? Should I bring insect repellent (ie, will I be able to bring it on a plane?)?
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Arik Airlines is one airline we will service here and they are flying old junker F-27's.
I heard Arik is even getting 2 A340-500 to start the USA run. Pretty big planes compare to the F27 dont you think? Get your infos right mate.
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sim assessment profile!
Could you send me too please, the profile for Arik and any other info you think I should know? Many thanks!!!
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Maxfly1
Could you please email to me too ( [email protected] ) the Sim Assessment profile for Arik Air? Thanks a lot bro.