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Kenya Airways B737 Crash - Douala 5 May 2007

Old 5th May 2007, 11:33
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Estimated location of the crash http://www.tageo.com/index-e-cm-v-00-d-m4452786.htm
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Few with KQ lots, very sad.


Thoughts go out to all on board their families and friends.
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This British citizen is rumored to be onboard http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4638956.stm
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Old 5th May 2007, 13:21
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SAD

115 people on board. Crash not confirmed but seems they lost contact 13 minutes after takeoff and the cameroonian authorities claim they received a distress signal. Hope all is well
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Why a/c was going to the south, but not via UA610 to Nairobi?
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7 South Africans according to BBC.
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7 SA citizen onboard and 6 with no clear citizenship..
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speculation

114 missing after Kenyan plane crashes


Five Britons feared dead as brand-new aircraft comes down in forests of south Cameroon

Xan Rice in Nairobi
Sunday May 6, 2007
The Observer

A Kenya Airways plane with 114 people on board, including five Britons, is thought to have crashed in dense forests of southern Cameroon.

The almost brand new Boeing 737-800 was reported missing shortly after taking off in poor weather late on Friday from Douala, the largest city in Cameroon, en route to Nairobi. Kenya Airways officials said yesterday that a distress signal had been picked up, but that wreckage had not been found. People living in several of the villages dotted through the forests of the sparsely populated area have reported hearing a loud boom.
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Earlier the airline confirmed that five Britons were among the passengers, who also included nationals of 22 countries. The Foreign Office would not confirm the missing Britons' identities and said there was confusion over passport numbers which might not have been properly recorded in Cameroon. But the Associated Press has said that its correspondent, Anthony Mitchell, a former Daily Express reporter now working for the news agency, was aboard.

Mitchell, originally from London, was flying home from an assignment in the Central African Republic to Nairobi, where he lives with his English wife Catherine, and their young son and baby daughter. He called his family shortly before boarding the flight to say it had been delayed by an hour due to a rainstorm. Chris Tomlinson, Nairobi bureau chief for Associated Press, said: 'We are hoping against hope that Anthony is OK.'
African airlines have a notoriously poor safety record, but Kenya Airways was regarded as one of the best on the continent. Partly owned by Air France-KLM, it has excellent links across Africa and is regarded as pretty safe. The airline's last major accident was in 2000, when 169 passengers died after one of its planes crashed after take-off in Abidjan, Ivory Coast - the same airport from which flight KQ507 took off on Friday, before stopping in Cameroon. Take off in Douala was delayed for an hour.
David Learmount, operations and safety editor at Flight International magazine, said the most likely cause of the crash was bad weather and the 'most puzzling thing' was why the weather radar warning system on board was not used to avoid a tropical storm.
Engineering failure is considered less likely because the aircraft was new and from cruising altitude the plane had a chance of gliding to land, and there is no evidence of another aircraft missing, which would point to a mid-air collision. Kenya Airways is also not considered a high-risk terrorism target, said Learmount. 'If I was putting money on this I'd say weather caused it because everything else is so unlikely. The next question would be why?'
At a news conference in Nairobi, Titus Naikuni, group managing director of Kenya Airways, said: 'The last message was received in Douala after take-off and thereafter the tower was unable to contact the plane.' He said that the plane was just six months old and low-flying spotter aircraft were searching a densely forested area 62 miles south-west of Yaounde, Cameroon's capital.
Kenyan Transport Minister Chirau Ali Mwakwere said the US was assisting in the search by providing satellite images of the flight path. He said it was too early to determine the cause of the accident.
Friends and colleagues of Mitchell in Nairobi and in the UK were preparing for the worst last night. Prior to working in Nairobi, he had worked in Ethiopia. He moved to Kenya after being expelled by the Ethiopian government for what it considered unfavourable reporting. In Kenya he soon earned a reputation as a sharp reporter. He and his wife were apparently planning to return to England in the near future. Greg Swift, deputy news editor of the Express, said: 'He is a really old-fashioned journalist who can pin down a story with intelligence and determination.'



Lets hope the FACTS come out soon, sounds unlikely that a 73 would go down due wx, Have flown with many Kenyan crew and they are dam good at what they do and and have cut their teeth in the middle of the ITCZ, am sure the crew was well aware of the wx and how to use a wx radar!

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Old 6th May 2007, 11:32
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Complete list of the missing persons found here http://www.eastandard.net/hm_news/ne...eid=1143968249
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Airworthiness Directives 737-800

Looks like the FAA has issued 12 AD's on the 737-800 since June last year. One superceeding emergency AD, (flight control, spoilers). One oxygen generator AD also. Does KQ comply with FAA AD's or do they blow them off under KCAA like many smaller civil aviation authorities?
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Old 6th May 2007, 12:48
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Full list of Passengers on Flight KQ 507


FROM DOUALA
1
BERNARDNYUY KITATAH MR
2
TIFUH MARY MRS
3
TCHOULA DANIEL MR
4
ABBO MOHAMAN MR
5
NGUEGNE EPSE KUATE THERESE MRS
6
NOSOLO SOLOMONDESIRE MR
7
AMBE/JULIUS NEBA MR
8
NOHO GILBERT MR
9
KAZE DAVID MR
10
MANFOUO SAMUEL MR
11
NKENGUE ALBERT MR
12
THEYEM TAKALA D MR
13
YOUMBI JEAN MICHEL MR
14
LEUNJEU VIGELLORE MME
15
EKANDJEMOUSSINGA NELSON MR
16
KOMETA FUAJAH LOUIS MR
17
KENGNE MODEST MR
18
MAFUO EUCHARIA MRS
19
TSIGUIA JEAN LOUIS MR
20
ELVIS NGULEFAC NGOASON MR
21
ENAM ESSOMBO JOSEPH PATRICE MR
22
LIALE TCHOUDENOU ANGELE MRS
23
BOUNGANI PATRICE ME
24
EFFA ENGELBERT MR
25
OMGBA ZUNG MR
26
NANA TCHAPDA MICHELINE MRS
27
FRU ANECORNILIUS MR
28
AICHA HAMANI PIWELE OUSMANOU MRS
29
NOWOKAP ROGER WILLIAM
30
NJAMFA PATRICK MR
31
POLA HERVE MR
32
NGAHESSAMA MARIE VERONIQUE MRS
33
MENGWETUH EPSENGANDOL MRS
34
TEDJOU KENGNE GUY
35
MADHUSAUDAN POOJITHA MS
36
MADHUSUDAN BHAGYA MRS
37
MADHUSUDAN MR
38
KEVIN JOSEPH JUDE MR
39
NIGLI SHIRLY MRS
40
KOCHERRY GEORGE JOSEPH MR
41
MANUEL GRACEY MME
42
MARIA JOSEPH MRS
43
GAUR AMAN MR
44
GIREESAN NALAKATH MR
45
CHAUHAN AMOL MR
46
MITCHELL ANTHONY MR
47
STEWART ADAM MR
48
STEWART SARAH MRS
49
CLAISSE STUART MR
50
WRIGHT GORDON MR
51
GROSSETT MICHAEL MR
52
VANDERWESTHUIZEN CONRAD MR
53
UTTON CAMPBELL MR
54
VANDERWESTHUIZEN CORNELIUS MR
55
BARNARD DANNY MR
56
EBERE UGOEZE EMMANUEL MR
57
UGOCHUKWU JOEL UDEH MR
58
ONUORAH CHUKWUDI JUDE MR
59
AMAECHI/NZEAUGUSTINEMR
60
ABAM/UBIREV
61
ASIEGBU C MR
62
ANGO NAYOUSSA MR
63
IDRISSA OUSMANE MR
64
SAMAILA ABDOULAYE MR
65
AKONO MONSUY/JOSE MANUEL MR
66
BUEPOYO BOSEKA MARIA DEL PILAR MRS
67
DANTHIA ERIC
68
DOFARA DAVID DR
69
FATOUMA ALIIBRAHIM MRS
70
SHAMINE MOUSTAPHASAGOUNF CHD
71
MUPENDA MALOBA
72
BOLA MALANDA THEO
73
WUCHANG GEN MR
74
LIU SHENG MR
75
KANDA GERARD MR
76
SELBY EVEREST MR
77
SHAH MEERA MRS
78
JANUARY CHARLES MR
79
ANDERSSON CLAES MR
80
WEDER HANS MR
81
SYLLA DIABEL MR
82
AGBEVIADE ANNA MS
83
NGONCHEMFONZIE IBRAHIM MR
84
OMGBA MARCEL MARIE
85
OUANDJI PIERRE CHRISTIAN MR
86
RUBY PAUL MS
87
SUNDARARAMAN PRAKASH MR
88
HAROUWA HALIDOU MR


FROM ABIDJAN
89
GNAMIEN AKAJEAN MR
90
SERY CYRIAQ
91
ETIEN KADJO MR
92
KONE ALASSANE MR
93
YAO NGORAN AMENAN MRS
94
SYLLA MARIAM
95
SHI WEISHA MRS
96
JIANG XUE DONG MR
97
BIAN JENG IHONG MR
98
INDEER DEEP
99
DAVID KENNETH JOHN MR
100
DIARRA SIAKA DR
101
ABDELKADER MOHAMED DR
102
KIM HYUNG JUN MR
103
PATERSON DUNCAN MR
104
OSWARD LETICIA MRS
105
HENN ALBERT DR


Nationalities of Passengers and Crew onboard KQ 507

NATIONALITY
NUMBER
CAMEROON
37
INDIA
15
SOUTH AFRICA
7
IVORY COAST
6
NIGERIA
6
CHINA
5
BRITAIN
5
NIGER
3
CAR
2
EQUITORIAL GUINEA
2
DRC
2
MAURITANIA
1
KOREAN
1
SWISS
1
MALI
1
TOGO
1
SWEDEN
1
GHANA
1
COMOROS
1
MAURITIUS
1
SENEGAL
1
CONGO
1
EGYPT
1
TANZANIA
1
US
1
BURKINA FASO
1
KENYA ( CREW)
9
Total
114
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Old 6th May 2007, 12:54
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Anybody know who the crew is? Trained with some KQ guys
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Crew?

Do you know crew names?
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Old 6th May 2007, 13:29
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Crew

It's in the Standard newspaper's cover page since this morning (and it is from this source that I copy), so I suppose it's okay to forward this information now:
Captain Francis Wamwea Mbatia
1st Officer Andrew Kiuru Wanyoike

My thought are with the families and friends
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And list of passengers

And KQ has given a list of passengers:

http://www.eastandard.net/hm_news/ne...eid=1143968249
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Regarding the ADs, KQ absolutely complies with them. Press conference at the moment saying they're looking at an area of swamp closer to douala.
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Wreckage found

Reuters just issued a news alert that the wreckage has been found.
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DOUALA, Cameroon (AP) -- The wreckage of a Kenya Airways jetliner that crashed with 114 people aboard was found Sunday in a mangrove forest, an aviation official said, more than 40 hours after the plane disappeared outside Cameroon's commercial capital.
The wreckage was found about six miles outside Douala, said Thomas Sobakam, chief of meteorology for the city's airport. He said there was no word yet on survivors or the condition of the jetliner, which lost contact with the radio tower between 11 and 13 minutes after takeoff shortly after midnight on Saturday.
He said local fishermen led searchers to the site.
"It's close enough that we could have seen it from the airport - but apparently there was no smoke or fire," Sobakam said.
The search had initially focused on the thickly forested mountains near the town of Lolodorf, about 90 miles southeast of this coastal city, a nearly five hour's drive away on badly maintained roads. Sobakam said that they had been led to believe the plane had crashed in the vast and largely inaccessible forest because of an incorrect satellite signal, possibly from the crashing plane.
The search in the fog-shrouded forest was hampered by heavy rains. At the same time, aviation authorities sent out a ground crew to investigate claims by fishermen living in the swampy mangroves near the Douala airport. Several reported hearing a loud sound at the time of the suspected crash.
The Nairobi, Kenya-bound plane took off an hour late due to a heavy rainstorm. The drenching rains in the forest of Lolodorf may also have camouflaged the smoldering wreck in the nighttime hours immediately after the crash.
Cameroon rescue vehicles, including ambulances and fire trucks, rushed toward the scene of the crash Sunday with sirens blaring but were finding it difficult to navigate the narrow roads through the swamp, journalists in the convoy said.
The Nairobi, Kenya-bound plane, carrying 105 passengers and nine crew members from 27 different countries, took off an hour late due to a heavy rainstorm. The drenching rains may have camouflaged the smoldering wreck in the nighttime hours immediately after the crash.
Among the passengers of the Boeing 737-800 was a Nairobi-based Associated Press correspondent, Anthony Mitchell, one of five Britons on a passenger list released by the airline. Mitchell had been on assignment in the region.
"We hope for the best," said Kathleen Carroll, the AP executive editor.
Officials said it was too early to tell what might have caused the plane to go down between 11 and 13 minutes after takeoff.
"Whatever happened must have happened very fast, which is usually a sign of catastrophic structural failure," said Patrick Smith, a U.S. based-airline pilot and aviation commentator.
"A plane never takes off into a thunderstorm, no crew or carrier would allow that. But it is remotely possible that the plane could have inadvertently gone into some extremely turbulent air and suffered massive hail damage or a sudden structural failure."
Before the wreckage was found, family members of the passengers and crew of Flight 507 gathered at the Nairobi and Douala airports, weeping. The airline opened crisis centers at both airports.
"Oh my last born, my last born, where am I going to go?" Kezzia Musimbi Kadurenge, the mother of a missing crew member, said in Kenya. "I'm finished."
The Douala-Nairobi flight runs several times a week, and is commonly used as an intermediary flight to Europe and the Middle East.
Kenya Airways - considered one of the safest airlines in Africa - said most passengers were planning to transfer to ongoing flights in Nairobi. Naikuni said the plane was only six months old when it crashed.
The last crash of an international Kenya Airways flight was on Jan. 30, 2000, when Flight 431 was taking off from Abidjan, Ivory Coast, on its way to Nairobi. Investigators blamed a faulty alarm and pilot error for that crash, which killed 169 people.
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Associated Press writers Elizabeth A. Kennedy and Tom Maliti in Nairobi, Kenya; Rukmini Callimachi in Dakar, Senegal; and Slobodan Lekic in Brussels, Belgium, contributed to this report.
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As a reminder

... and as Very Low and Fast reported earlier on page 1 of this thread, there is a thread on the same subject over on R&N.
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6 miles in 11-13 mins??? Thought a 737 would go a bit faster than that.
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