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The Huey in Capetown (including Huey down)

Old 12th Mar 2005, 16:54
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Yo Wyatt, where's da harse you were supposed to ride into town on??

Man, this Huey story is getting good again. So much happening but no one is posting. I wonder why? Last I heard that some Huey critics were threatened and warned that they will be taken out. The big boys were gonna pay them a visit and break every bone in their bodies. Heard it happened to "Rotorhead/twomember/A340_cojock" Apparently he was beaten up and his family traumatised. Is this true???

Well fellow ppruners, here's the latest gossip from the "reliable spy down in the docks", and I mean RELIABLE! An in house man, and when this boy's had a few, he loves to talk...... big!

The Huey Company is now empowered. Its become a BE Company and they're all moving back to the Helibase again shortly. Gary Fox is the chief engineer, and he's telling the Huey members & enthusiasts that he's bought 6 Hueys in Germany, 2 ship load full of parts out the USA, and that within 2 months he's gonna have 6 Hueys flying. Well, how we would all love to see that, but then again rumour has it that Fox is renowned for not always being to economical with the truth

Furthermore, the Huey is currently out of service. Its so messed up that its gonna take at least 2 weeks to get it fixed. Apparently big problems all round. Tail boom buggered, MR blades kaput, engine suspect, but in spite of all this, the SACAA have backed them in their endeavours, and are 100% behind them. The spy says the SACAA gave them a fresh AMO. The SACAA have now also appointed a fresh team consisting of "Pula" (he's in it for the money.. pula being currency) Sakhile ( Because she's a training captain and knows helicopters very well) Peter Volland (former Luftwaffe Officer retired) and a string of colorful faces from the airworthiness department that knows everything about Hueys. (Fox alledgedly trained them.) Man this is funny! The Court cases scared the s out of the SACAA, so they decided to make peace with Gary and instead of trying to prosecute him, decided rather to lend a helping hand. They've been spending a lot of time with him trying to get his Huey Company SACAA compliant. (Whatever that means.) They've run out of legal fees and legal ideas, and their BE Legal advisors know s out aviation law. Just looking at the court cases won with costs, Gary must have made at least 2 bar out of the SACAA in the last 2 years. Man oh man, what a way to earn a living! Just sue those dumbo's.

For the rest, there is so much more to post, but I don't know if I should tell it all. Man its really exciting and captivating stuff. Mr. Moderator what do you think? Shall I post it? It is after all a rumour network.

What's the SACAA gonna come up with next? Abolish all regulations? It certainly looks like it. Just think about it! They're trying to assist a client in BECOMING compliant. That means he's not compliant, but he flies. He has no Operating License, but the CAA audit him. He does'nt have an operating license, but the CAA does a Dangerous Goods Inspection. His helicopter is not airworthy, but he flies it with no certification, insurance or paperwork, and no licensed engineer to sign it off. Man, this CAA sure looks like its gonna end up the same as those corrupt and non-functioning CAA's we know so well in darkest Africa. Well done SACAA, you're a great example!

I wonder if the SACAA are allowing the trainee pilot to fly commercially with passengers in the mean time while they assist him to become compliant as well......????

Viva South Africa, Viva Bob Mugarbage, Viva! Viva! Viva SACAA!
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Old 12th Mar 2005, 18:21
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Maybe we ought to start a GPS Pool. R100 buy-in. The one with the closest coordinates to the burning hole in the ground wins.........
Sounds like now its just a matter of where and when.........
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Old 12th Mar 2005, 20:07
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bladestrap whats the timecheck on your gen?
This morning, the ball-and-chain and myself drove to the waterfront for a little jaunt on the ferry out to robbersisland, and the Huey was parked on its pad. Engine covers open and some bloke climbing all over it. (this was about 12:00 local)

This avi,about 16:30 , as we cruised in to the waterdronk , as certain groot geeste like to call it, the Huey was parked out on the V&A chopper pad and a little string of pax was being led to it, kinda like the pied piper? Didnt see it take off, but it was there, got the pic to prove it too! So unless somebody drove it there on the back of a bakkie, it must have flown?

Also, last week, think it was tuesday or wednesday, saw it whopping along the coast by Blouberg and over the hill...

... by the by,how much is the chap paying for his ppl training?
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Old 13th Mar 2005, 06:55
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send the story to Carte Blanche! They love sensational stuff like this!
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Old 13th Mar 2005, 08:26
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Arrow

Go for it bladestrap ..

It should be written Newspapers and (hopefully) Carte Blanche reads this
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Old 13th Mar 2005, 20:05
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Hells bells guys, the saga never ends. I love that Huey, have always loved it and cherish the flips I've had in it.

The thing is getting a bit long in the tooth now, and maybe the SACAA should just tell us exactly what the truth is behind this saga. Is it legal and airworthy, or is it not?Come on SACAA, lets hear it from YOU! I mean, there are so many stories, but no one knows for sure. Lets hear it CAA, lets hear it!
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Old 13th Mar 2005, 22:45
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Back a few hundred posts ago it was mentioned that SACAA had revoked the Airworthiness Certificate. Although the owner(s) may still have it physically in hand, according to all I have seen is that it is revoked. Since all the court battles, SACAA just stays out of the way.
If Im correct it C/A was never re-issued and remains revoked. The Aircraft is flying under the guidance of the courts..... They always make the right decision........................NOT
Has Anyone seen a new C/A recently issued, lately?? I mean Im sure every pilot who gets in the Aircraft properly checks these documents as part of the preflight..........If the SACAA had any juice, all who have flown it since its revocation would have seriously tainted their flying priveliges.
Anybody out there who has the true Answer??
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Old 17th Mar 2005, 18:56
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Its official. The Huey does'nt have an airworthiness certificate, but the High Court ordered that it can fly. So you won't be getting any information from the CAA Mr. Bert. They're not going to tell you anything. Simply because they don't really know how to deal with the Huey saga.

Right now the Huey is still flying. The Company is now Black Empowered with Gary Fox as the Chief engineer and Chief Instructor. Fox is currently instructing the new pilots, and rumour has it that the Huey is in pieces due to several hard landings. One, with Fox in the Instructor's seat and his student in the right hand seat. According to an inside source, they dragged the tail and bent the skids. Nice one huh?

What the aviation fraternity in South Africa fail to understand is how a pilot with no rating can give instruction on a helicopter he's not rated on, and the CAA condones it. Total lawlessness. The Wild West.

That scenario basically means that each and everyone can do as they please. The SACAA are so lawless now, that they don't care who breaks the rules.

One can therefore only assume with all of whats been posted here, that the SACAA don't need to exist, because they're not enforcing their regulations, and anyone who can fly, can just fly, license or no license. And what's worse is the fact that in spite of all the criticism here, the SACAA have not responded to the allegations, neither have they attempted to set the record straight. So one must assume that everything is OK and that the SACAA condones it all.

Sad, real sad!
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Old 17th Mar 2005, 19:31
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The Huey is still flying and is by no means in pieces.

I watched it fly this evening as I do every night from the beach.

It still gives off it's puff's of black smoke every now and again.(have no idea what causes the black smoke,and dont care).

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Old 17th Mar 2005, 22:28
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Clipboard said it, as its been said many times before. Something terribly wrong when the courts determine what clutters your skies......I still have my R100 and have a good guess as to Lat/Lon if the pool gets started.
Again it goes without saying that the Huey is a tough piece of machinery. This is a perfect example.

Goffel writes:"It still gives off it's puff's of black smoke every now and again.(have no idea what causes the black smoke,and dont care)."

Im sure you should only care when your on board. Many causes for black smoke. One that comes to mind in the Lycoming case is unburnt fuel igniting intermittently.. More reason for me to up my wager to R200. Sad part is it will probably be at the loss of someones family member.
If this is one of the older models, it may not have the Crashworthy Fuel System on Board. We lost a lot of folks due to post/impact fires with those aircraft as the Fuel bladder sits right behind most of the PAX seats. Sure makes a big fireball.
Make sure you tuck in your Nomex.
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Old 18th Mar 2005, 06:44
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I am not joking when I say it gives off "puff's" of black smoke every now and again.

I will try to get a photo of this.

It happend in S&L flight.

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Old 18th Mar 2005, 07:31
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Without an airworthy cert I would imagine that there is no way in hell that insurance or 3rd party would even consider paying anything in the case of an incident, which seems imminent at this stage.

The victims families will then sue the operator which will most prob just declare insolvency and again walk away scotfree.

It's so unbelievable it's actually funny, until someone gets hurt of course
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Old 18th Mar 2005, 09:09
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BLADESTRAP, CLIPBOARD, CARNIVORUSLEGALLUS

I think it is time that Clipboard, Bladestrap, Carnivoruslegallus or better known as *** posting under all these pseudonyms is exposed once and for all.

As anybody in the SA Aviation Community will know *** *** is the only person ever convicted in SA of having a fraudulent flying license. In addition there is now a full investigation by the CAA into how he got a PPL for a helicopter or a fixed wing in the first place as he had never attended any flight schools and it has transpired that the person issuing him with these licenses is also under investigation for being paid to issue these licenses.

I believe the correct forum to expose fraudsters is the Jet Blast forum and this thread will continue there.

It should also be appreciated that should members want to become personal and fabricate stories they should face the consequences both legal and consequential.

I am meeting with Gary Fox and Gary van der Merwe later and will be continuing this thread on the Jet Blast Forum where it will be more appropriate and this character exposed completely and I can assure you there is plenty of legal and factual documentation available to remove any doubt.

In addition it is distressing to note that a person of Bert Sousa's calibre is so easily drawn into BladeStrap/ Clipboard/ Carnivoruslegallus/ Francois Marais's web that he in turn is starting to misalign himself with the facts and the truth.

After consultation with helicopter engineers it transpires that black smoke is caused by oil-a Good sign on a T53 turbine and carbon seals are air pressurized and with any substantial change in air pressure within turbine due to power changes, can be cause for oil to be released into the exhaust system resulting in a small puff of black smoke and that white smoke is caused by excess fuel or unburnt fuel. Anybody with experience of these big turbines should obviously know this but it seems the experts don't.

I put my R200 that the only thing that gets buried in the hole where the Huey is supposed to be will be *** *** and any clown or joker that sympathises with him.

See you on the Jet Blast Forum for all the fact and gory details.
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Old 18th Mar 2005, 11:36
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Smoke

I always thought Black smoke=unburnt fuel and white smoke=burning oil
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Old 18th Mar 2005, 11:45
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Injector! Mmmm, I recall from the EC 120 thread that Injector was exposed as Mr. **** ***. The engineering comment can only come from a "know it all" like ***.

Well, I dunno, but if *** is Injector, then I just want to tell you that I am not Francois Marais. Remember me Mr. **** ***. I was the guy that flew your soil sampling contract in the old BP Jetranger, and I am the guy you accused of stealing from you. So don't blame other people for your own misery.

**** ***has always had a very bad reputation, and will always have. He's controversial and is a thug of note.

Come on pprunners, lets get some postings from the lads who know this boy ***.

By the way Injector, why don't you post the name(s) of the officials allegedly involved? Are you scared to name them, or are you thumbsucking this whole story? I think that you should be bold enough to back up your rediculous statements with facts if you're prepared to state this. You can be lucky that this is just a rumour network. I think things have caught up with you, and you're now trying to shift blame. Sick my man, sick!
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Old 18th Mar 2005, 13:31
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Somewhere I am missing the plot here.

I have no idea (I know I am not the brightest carrot around),where the mud-slinging on Francious;Bladestrap;Carniv???(or whatever),has to do with the "puffs of black smoke" coming out of the Huey.

This thread is about the Huey.(and Elvis).

If the so called know-all is in fact Mr Gary ???,then is he not the one that stole from a certain Leb king,who then in turn had Mr Gary's leg broken with a bat.

We all have skeletons in our cupboard.
Just some get caught,and others get away with things.

Whether Francious has a licence or not,put him in a spray a/c and watch poetry in motion.
Put him in the Huey and see if the experts can fault his flying.

But after all that said......The Huey still has "puff's of black smoke" being emmitted from it's turbines.
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Old 18th Mar 2005, 14:23
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Injector, Thank you for your confidence, but consider, Im just a Pilot, not an Expert...... Francois didnt drag me into this, it was the fact that I flew the thing back when it was certified.......I think, and my recomendations for some major repairs went into the S***can due to the fact it would cost money. They were and appear to still be, Safety of Flight issues. Then Kennel Keeper got in my face and I was not a happy camper. Further, Injector, we call the responses as to this particular aircraft "Spin" as nothing has be posted that would get me to believe ANYTHING to do with the Safety of Flight issues have been dealt with in accordance to the Manufacturers or SACAA specifications.
What keeps this alive is the fact that the insanity of the SA Regulatory Agency that should have the Final Word as to its flyability (SACAA), cannot do Squat about it. The total picture is that although this one Helicopter in SA, may also be indicative of the complete Aviation community there and could have long range considerations as to how the rest of the world looks at SACAA.
In other words how will they regard SAA, for example, when they are given permission to enter other countries that have a working FAA/CAA with standards.
This thread sort of wants to die, then someone throws more fuel in the fire.......Certainly is entertainment on a subject very serious.
One of Francois' main faults is he didnt let me drive his little German Toy...........It is Sweeeeet.
I dont recall Francois being those other monikers, but who knows. I think if Im correct that he has moved on, but no doubt watches a lot of the drivel here.........Hear that Francois I wanna drive that little Gem when I get back.....
Hey, keep all the smut here on this thread, its a good long running mess and the news slugs will have to go surfing to get all the trash..........
Whats the thread title on Jet Blast, cant seem to find it..........
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Old 18th Mar 2005, 14:58
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As a regulatory officer in my own country, I have followed this thread with interest. May I add my two dimes worth?

First we find the actions of the SACAA very strange with regards to this helicopter. It just does'nt make any common sense. Something is seriously wrong and the SACAA appears not to be taking any action in this case.

Secondly, I have it oin good authority from some SA officers that Mr. Gary Fox is indeed a very controversial character. Some people know him better than others, and I can assure you that I have only heard of him. (nothing good I may add)

What I do know is that his AME license from the SACAA is suspended due to misrepresentations and acts of fraud. This is correct and can be verified. He does not have a Bell 205/Huey rating, and he has admitted this to the SACAA. So I'm told by a duly authorized officer, so it must be true.

What we fail to understand here is why the SACAA Commissioner has not cancelled his license, or prosecuted him for being in command of a fly machine with no rating. In my country he would go to jail.

I think that this thread is nothing more than a dirt hanging exercise between people, and it really is not good for aviation. Maybe these people should refrain from these way of attacking each other and if they want to continue, to do so off the forum.

This is very bad for African Aviation!
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Old 18th Mar 2005, 17:25
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"I think that this thread is nothing more than a dirt hanging exercise between people, and it really is not good for aviation. Maybe these people should refrain from these way of attacking each other and if they want to continue, to do so off the forum."

Dirty Laundry is sometimes the only way to get folks attention prior to an accident. In fact if you look at three of the latest threads on this forum, they are regarding recent accidents. Maybe I should bring over some Cowboy Hats, there could be a good market in SA.

Wonders never cease, please say Hello to Alfred..
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APPOLOGIES TO GARY FOX.

Todays Cape Argus has put us all in our places.

Three new Huey's have graced our shores.(pge 6..with photo).

Captain Gary Fox,Federal Aviation Administration Inspector and Authorised factory trained pilot AND mechanic.

Fox said the Hueys have been demilitarised and type CERTIFIED.

So there you have it,all you cynical muffoons.

Gary Fox has spoken,and as he is a factory trained pilot AND mechanic,you had better believe everything that is said.

It's OK,I also believe that fairies knomes.
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