JHB EMS Pilots get the boot again!
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JHB EMS Pilots get the boot again!
Heard all the ex Star ems pilots were fired with immediate effect on Friday by the new operator Helimax, any info out there.................
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Not sure 'watt' the eurocopter man will be doing now, rumour has it that the boss had a fallout with netcare and then caught a serious wobbly and fired the lot; the eurocopter man then packed his bags and walked out......only the boss and the d.fenestron left
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Poor show by the owners and operator 
! These guys have really had a bad deal. I believe the CEO of the company got involved in doing ems flights and some near incidents and misses were reported whilst going to land to fetch patients
where is CAA in all this
Interesting to find out if the man is licenced to do so and if so how much experience he has, maybe he can teach the Flight For Life pilots a thing or two!
To the pilots, I only know a couple of you; good luck and I hope you get sorted out real soon with new employment, you have all done an excellent job and are well respected pilots in SA
! These guys have really had a bad deal. I believe the CEO of the company got involved in doing ems flights and some near incidents and misses were reported whilst going to land to fetch patients where is CAA in all this
Interesting to find out if the man is licenced to do so and if so how much experience he has, maybe he can teach the Flight For Life pilots a thing or two!
To the pilots, I only know a couple of you; good luck and I hope you get sorted out real soon with new employment, you have all done an excellent job and are well respected pilots in SA
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The CEO is Com pilot, and I'm sure he's allowed to fly if his insurance allows him to??? Don't think he has a lot of experience though!
With regards to the "bulb"
heard in the hangar yesterday, that he's on his way back to Eurocopter!
With regards to the "bulb"
heard in the hangar yesterday, that he's on his way back to Eurocopter!
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Watt - going back to Eurocopter you say? - well I am off to place my order for another skwirrel as I am sure to get a good deal then?
Sounds like the relationship at the top of the food chain went horribly skew in a very short space of time around Friday last week - then the kneejerk reaction and the poor guys were told to go. This whole take over was doomed from the start.
Another sad day in South African aviation - the good guys get bombed after putting all the effort in!!.
Sounds like the relationship at the top of the food chain went horribly skew in a very short space of time around Friday last week - then the kneejerk reaction and the poor guys were told to go. This whole take over was doomed from the start.
Another sad day in South African aviation - the good guys get bombed after putting all the effort in!!.
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See this hit the newspapers earlier this week in the Beeld (front page) and Citizen. The pilot that died in the R 22 crash over the weekend could have survived but due to the fact the ceo of Helimax had pulled the aircraft and fired the pilots the poor individual died! 
Talk on the block is that there are now court cases looming from medical aids, smells bad to me
Whats funny is that RT (ceo) has denied firing the 6 pilots in the news reports but the pilots are out of work and hunting around for new employement, stinky one this, spoke with one of the pilots yesterday and it seems this one is still going to get rather ugly, don't blame them at all, spot on Canthover, doomed from the beginning as so many predicated
As for the Eurocopter man,
a lucky escape out of the Helimax 
outfit and well removed from the RT factor whom are fast getting bad reputations in the industry
Talk on the block is that there are now court cases looming from medical aids, smells bad to me Whats funny is that RT (ceo) has denied firing the 6 pilots in the news reports but the pilots are out of work and hunting around for new employement, stinky one this, spoke with one of the pilots yesterday and it seems this one is still going to get rather ugly, don't blame them at all, spot on Canthover, doomed from the beginning as so many predicated
As for the Eurocopter man,
a lucky escape out of the Helimax outfit and well removed from the RT factor whom are fast getting bad reputations in the industry
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Sounds to me that we may be in for more than just "Wattage" down South!! Word on the street is, the old Bell man that has been flying around in a EC bird, alot latly, was planning on more involvment in EC than just casual flying. Some talk of sales & what not? Intresting time ahead at CTI.
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RT is a shrewd business man, and I'm sure that he would'nt have done something this dumb to fire the whole lot, but then one never knows.
Who's willing to tell us the three sides to the story? His, their's and the truth?
Hangar rumour has it that the "bulb" is also not so easy going as he makes out to be. Prima donna of note the walls say! Is it true?
Who's willing to tell us the three sides to the story? His, their's and the truth?
Hangar rumour has it that the "bulb" is also not so easy going as he makes out to be. Prima donna of note the walls say!
Is it true?
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I don't know "the bulb" well but the general warning out there is to watch your back when you get associated with this one, well the proof is in the pooding mate and when one looks at what has happened at Helimax with the pilots one wonders. Wonder how the fenestron character is holding out as he and the RT seem worlds apart, dont think he will hang around for much longer as he is well known for moving around the industry jumping from one outfit to the next
Seems RT is not only a shrewd businessman but a bit of a 'Sigmun Freud' type, I hear he told some of the pilots that they were psychologically unstable
and therefore unfit to fly is helicopters I believe 2 of the Star pilots have since been reemployed and the rest have been fired; doesn't sound right at all 
anyone been in contact with the Star pilots to hear what really happened. Agreed this stinks of some bad smelly stuff.
Seems RT is not only a shrewd businessman but a bit of a 'Sigmun Freud' type, I hear he told some of the pilots that they were psychologically unstable
and therefore unfit to fly is helicopters I believe 2 of the Star pilots have since been reemployed and the rest have been fired; doesn't sound right at all anyone been in contact with the Star pilots to hear what really happened. Agreed this stinks of some bad smelly stuff.
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"The Bulb"
Was there not a huge ?? with the EC120 accident in Durban where the Bulb had a training booklet hidden in his desk and then could not understand why the industry was up in arms.
Then of course look at the fenestron's career history - was he not one of the 4 Oke's - mmmm.
So it all makes sense - these are big players - and they have played big - too big!
We all knew the Helimax saga was doomed from the beginning - it was just a matter of time.
Who's going to be the next money'd fella that they latch onto with some bright idea?
Then of course look at the fenestron's career history - was he not one of the 4 Oke's - mmmm.
So it all makes sense - these are big players - and they have played big - too big!
We all knew the Helimax saga was doomed from the beginning - it was just a matter of time.
Who's going to be the next money'd fella that they latch onto with some bright idea?
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Tsk,Tsk...
You guys have it all wrong... hehehe
If in doubt, have some balls and contact Helimax, RT, LL, Fenestron or The Bulb and ask them directly what's up.
Or even contact Y, the owner of the EC 135 what's up, as he is the employer of the ex STAR pilots, not Helimax...
Your "facts" are ungrounded, unlike the EC135 with VERY expensive mechanical maintenance due before it can fly again.
Thus, no EC135, no night service and therefore no requirement for "extra" pilots. All politics but not really to do with Helimax...
They are a helicopter management set-up, not a helicopter operator...
That’s only my opinion.....hehehehe
If in doubt, have some balls and contact Helimax, RT, LL, Fenestron or The Bulb and ask them directly what's up.
Or even contact Y, the owner of the EC 135 what's up, as he is the employer of the ex STAR pilots, not Helimax...
Your "facts" are ungrounded, unlike the EC135 with VERY expensive mechanical maintenance due before it can fly again.
Thus, no EC135, no night service and therefore no requirement for "extra" pilots. All politics but not really to do with Helimax...
They are a helicopter management set-up, not a helicopter operator...
That’s only my opinion.....hehehehe
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Disagree, look at the recent events that have happened over the past few weeks with pilots being fired and told to leave by RT. Pilots were paid by helimax and under their employ with Rt weilding the big stick. Interesting that his mate aka "the globe" had a runin with the man and walked out surrending his shares and everything in the company where there is smoke there is fire
Here is a cherry for the cake CAA closed down Helimax and all ems flight operations on Friday due to negligence and non compliance with sops bout time not surprised if one looks at RT ems experience and skills when it comes to running an operation of this magnitude
An excellent track record Rt! Amazing how things have just gone southwards within the last 12 months in the ems industry, ems crashes, unscrupilous operators, deaths etc maybe helimax should join forces for the ems specialists down in EL continue like this a repeat of last sunday's Rc ems accident is well on the cards
where there is smoke there is fire Here is a cherry for the cake CAA closed down Helimax and all ems flight operations on Friday due to negligence and non compliance with sops
bout time not surprised if one looks at RT ems experience and skills when it comes to running an operation of this magnitudeAn excellent track record Rt! Amazing how things have just gone southwards within the last 12 months in the ems industry, ems crashes, unscrupilous operators, deaths etc maybe helimax should join forces for the ems specialists down in EL
continue like this a repeat of last sunday's Rc ems accident is well on the cards
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Smelly...
Sounds like sour grapes boys....hehehehe
Your facts are still wrong... tsk, tsk...
Helimax uses highly qualified and experienced pilots in the field of EMS and some of the EMS pilots used by Helimax, i.e. ex "STAR" pilots have been doing this kind of work at night when you were still in nappies.
Seems like you are still in nappies CDP...hehehe
Obviously you don't have balls and never contacted Helimax as I suggested...
Their maintenance is excellent, done by F, ex Eurocopter maintenance, taken on especially for his knowledge and ability.
Helimax's helicopters, the AS350B2's are relatively new and well equipped. Furthermore it is a strictly daylight operation, without the EC135 flying.
So why then do you suggest that with Helimax and the EMS fraternity involved, there be a danger of having a repeat of the BO105 accident? I also don't recall any other EMS helicopters having accidents in South Africa in years. Minor incidents, maybe, but then the risks are so much more than in charter.
CDP, has RT done you in somehow, were you not good enough to fly one of his helicopters or are you just jealous of his achievements?
Seems like you are a bit nervous of the man, an accomplished business man that yes, most probably made his first million just as you were weaned of your dummy and nappies...hehehehe
Mark my words, Helimax will be around a while longer, maybe by the time your grand children are off there nappies, the team will retire, only maybe, who knows, RT might still be wielding that big stick that gets you shivering....hehehehe
Your facts are still wrong... tsk, tsk...
Helimax uses highly qualified and experienced pilots in the field of EMS and some of the EMS pilots used by Helimax, i.e. ex "STAR" pilots have been doing this kind of work at night when you were still in nappies.
Seems like you are still in nappies CDP...hehehe
Obviously you don't have balls and never contacted Helimax as I suggested...
Their maintenance is excellent, done by F, ex Eurocopter maintenance, taken on especially for his knowledge and ability.
Helimax's helicopters, the AS350B2's are relatively new and well equipped. Furthermore it is a strictly daylight operation, without the EC135 flying.
So why then do you suggest that with Helimax and the EMS fraternity involved, there be a danger of having a repeat of the BO105 accident? I also don't recall any other EMS helicopters having accidents in South Africa in years. Minor incidents, maybe, but then the risks are so much more than in charter.
CDP, has RT done you in somehow, were you not good enough to fly one of his helicopters or are you just jealous of his achievements?
Seems like you are a bit nervous of the man, an accomplished business man that yes, most probably made his first million just as you were weaned of your dummy and nappies...hehehehe
Mark my words, Helimax will be around a while longer, maybe by the time your grand children are off there nappies, the team will retire, only maybe, who knows, RT might still be wielding that big stick that gets you shivering....hehehehe
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hehehe - rather a bold post considering that everyone concerned is sitting around with their fingers up their noughts (rumour has it, hehehe) due to the operator's licence being suspended today. Or is this just rumour? hehe
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It is quite clear that you are either trying to wind everyone up or are plain doff. Is it really necessary to end most sentences with your dumb ass hehehehe kak?
A quick skwiz at other threads that you have attempted to reply on show the same magnitude of your intellectual genius - fool!
Rumour has it that some of the STAR pilot's are still looking for wek! - so if you have such hot gen on RT's great doings then please inform the industry.
It is quite clear that you are either trying to wind everyone up or are plain doff. Is it really necessary to end most sentences with your dumb ass hehehehe
kak?A quick skwiz at other threads that you have attempted to reply on show the same magnitude of your intellectual genius - fool!
Rumour has it that some of the STAR pilot's are still looking for wek! - so if you have such hot gen on RT's great doings then please inform the industry.